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I'm just imagining - a pop can with fans fitted in it, and snugly slid atop the atomizer, I have a pharaoh dripper tank RDA and am wondering if the intake would be insufficient. About to comment / contact Rip Trippers and see if he can get something saucy going.

Figured I'd make an account since I've searched and never seen anything regarding the topic.
 

zephyr

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Could you explain a bit further?
 
A fan inside a pop can not powered or anything (12fl oz aluminum can) fitted to the mouth piece, to pull more air through the intake holes.

Yeah, maybe not fans plural - one ought to do it.
 

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A fan inside a pop can not powered or anything (12fl oz aluminum can) fitted to the mouth piece, to pull more air through the intake holes.

Yeah, maybe not fans plural - one ought to do it.

uh. what is an unpowered fan going to do ?
 
put more drag on the air holes. I don't see how viable it would be to have it powered, forcing vape down your throat / lungs.

If we were going for a fog machine wand for dramatic effect then yeah. Make it like a mag-lite / torch looking thing, all super juiced up with a horker of a coil in it.
 

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I'm just imagining - a pop can with fans fitted in it, and snugly slid atop the atomizer, I have a pharaoh dripper tank RDA and am wondering if the intake would be insufficient. About to comment / contact Rip Trippers and see if he can get something saucy going.
Figured I'd make an account since I've searched and never seen anything regarding the topic.

I needed a smoke machine so I took an air hose from my compressor and shot air thru the AF Intake while holding the fire button. MOD timed out but did not require lung usage to make a cloud out of the drip tip. Could not direct it to where it was needed though.
 
Guess I'll test it by getting one of those little party "zipper" noise making things and jamming it into the mouth piece, think that has a fan of sorts in it - plus it'd make an obnoxious sound.
 

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Guess I'll test it by getting one of those little party "zipper" noise making things and jamming it into the mouth piece, think that has a fan of sorts in it - plus it'd make an obnoxious sound.

That idea actually makes me giggle, I like it.

My gut tells me though that anything you add in the pathway of air is just going to slow it down and make your lungs work harder for the same amount of airflow they could get without any obstructions

Go for it and prove me wrong though
 

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Guess I'll test it by getting one of those little party "zipper" noise making things and jamming it into the mouth piece, think that has a fan of sorts in it - plus it'd make an obnoxious sound.

I would think you want it to send the air in the designed path or you will wind up with e-Liquid coming out of the air flow intakes. Plus make sure this party whatever is not using propane as a propellant or you might have an Oh Shit Occurrence.
 

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Would be a massive chamber (The pop can) if the fan increases air flow, it might make these 100+ watt mods more viable.

My Air Compressor delivers 125 PSI so I had to turn down the regulator to do what I tried. CFM's I am not sure about to be honest.
 
It would still draw it through the mouth piece SteveS45. I just want the fan to provide mechanical advantage to my lungs / breathing, might need more intake holes, as of right now with just three holes and my mouth I feel resistance.
 

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Do some stupid shit like that in public and set vaping back ever further. We are fighting to keep vaping as a viable alternative to smoking cigs. Ive seen some dumb ideas on vape forums but this is over the top.
Jesus thank you for your answer. I thought the exact same thing. Fight for your right to vape but then here comes Einstein with a soda can force inducing vapor :facepalm::grumpy::headbang:
 

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Jesus thank you for your answer. I thought the exact same thing. Fight for your right to vape but then here comes Einstein with a soda can force inducing vapor :facepalm::grumpy::headbang:
yep maybe in the out skirts of russian would something like that come to pass... it is things like this that would make it hard to even own one.
 

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Seems like a lot of work for something ridiculous. Why not just suck helium out of a balloon? You’ll use the same inhale effort.
 
Guess it's true - it doesn't matter what other people think, sorry for wasting your "valuable" time. Dankasscloud haters. "oooo big scary cloud make it illegal" what tf, and helium balloon, guess the internet is fake consciousness V. The fake nudes(news) of TV.

Fine if people are okay with where vaping is at, but this is ridicule from babies. Who would need a vaping forum if not for stuff like what I'm purposing. Hell does 8oz pop can sound more pleasing/viable. . ?
 
Right! I'm thinking just suck harder on the tank you have now. = more air. Build lower=more power. I'm lost I guess not doing cloud tricks with fans

I find I get the biggest clouds with a slow pull, so all together it might be a bust. I wanted the best of all worlds.

We could have had it all, until politics met experts, and became obsessed with safety and other pseudo-nonsense. Only guy with any remote experience with what I'm talking about is Steve but he did something completely different pushing air through via air compressor.
 

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Guess it's true - it doesn't matter what other people think, sorry for wasting your "valuable" time. Dankasscloud haters. "oooo big scary cloud make it illegal" what tf, and helium balloon, guess the internet is fake consciousness V. The fake nudes(news) of TV.

Fine if people are okay with where vaping is at, but this is ridicule from babies. Who would need a vaping forum if not for stuff like what I'm purposing. Hell does 8oz pop can sound more pleasing/viable. . ?

idk where you are, but seems like not in the USA. doesn't matter. big clouds, i like to make big clouds sometimes.
the thing is, you idea just doesn't make any sense = an "unpowered" fan is going to increase airflow, cause once it gets spinning. uh, no. i doubt it would even move. the holes between the blades are FAR larger than the airflow holes.

what i would like to see =you rig up your idea and take a pic. i am having some trouble thinking what it is you wwant to do.
 

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They kind of did this before with the Turbo RDA.
It has a fan inside it.

Here is local dipshit rip trippers telling us how amazing the thing is.

 

Jinx'd

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They kind of did this before with the Turbo RDA.
It has a fan inside it.

Here is local dipshit rip trippers telling us how amazing the thing is.


that is a scam. the fan is nothing more than a feature for those that want to show off. and it probably hurts flavor.
it hits better because of the size of the hole, i mean, look at that DT :eek:
 

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The thing is huge!!!

When they first came out in 2015 everyone had one.

Then they realized the fan was super loud and sounded like a kazoo.
After this they figured out that walking around blowing huge clouds AND making a loud kazoo sound makes them look like an ass.

Then the "Turbo RDA" fad was over.
 

Jinx'd

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The thing is huge!!!

When they first came out in 2015 everyone had one.

Then they realized the fan was super loud and sounded like a kazoo.
After this they figured out that walking around blowing huge clouds AND making a loud kazoo sound makes them look like an ass.

Then the "Turbo RDA" fad was over.


:giggle: this^. if i was back then, i know i would have had one.

but still, that fan is WAY smaller than what Icar is talking about.
 

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I just don't think the physics pan out here. First off, the amount of air needed to get a fan spinning will sap the energy from the lungs pulling in air and instead direct it to trying to move a stationary fan. Secondly, having a pop can making the air pathway larger decreases pressure or power of the suction due to increased volume. So say your baseline with a regular atomizer (whichever one it is) is benched to be 100%. Even if the fan were to help somehow, you've lost more than 50% of suction/vacuum (pulling power from your lungs) by the enlarged soda can id. Playing devil's advocate and saying for purposes of the argument the fan helped at all.. and provided 50% assistance. Look where you're at, back to the same 100% starting point.

It will make the process more complicated with no benefit. If the goal is to make inhaling easier, the atomizer needs to change. Larger air inlets, larger chimney, larger drip tip. But since the capacity of the lungs is fixed and finite, this just means more volume moving in a shorter amount of time. Ie, a 5 sec puff reduced to a 1 sec puff, inhaling the same amount of air. And if the coil diameter/surface area and power don't change, all you're doing is adding more air to a given amount of heat, reducing vapor density. A big lungful of wisp instead of vapor.

Chances of the lungs inhale vacuum created being strong enough to spin a larger fan (the size of a pop can) is about nil. Air follows the path of least resistance and would simply float around the fins of the fan without even nudging it. That's why when it comes to things like pc fans (disregarding the fact they're powered), the smaller fans at higher speeds produce more pressure with more sweep to the fins providing higher static pressure. Consider trying to vape a column of vapor produced by a small table 'turbo fan' vs getting a column of vapor from a lazy big ass ceiling fan. A powered fan would provide assistance, an inert powerless fan just becomes an air obstruction.
 

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I just don't think the physics pan out here. First off, the amount of air needed to get a fan spinning will sap the energy from the lungs pulling in air and instead direct it to trying to move a stationary fan. Secondly, having a pop can making the air pathway larger decreases pressure or power of the suction due to increased volume. So say your baseline with a regular atomizer (whichever one it is) is benched to be 100%. Even if the fan were to help somehow, you've lost more than 50% of suction/vacuum (pulling power from your lungs) by the enlarged soda can id. Playing devil's advocate and saying for purposes of the argument the fan helped at all.. and provided 50% assistance. Look where you're at, back to the same 100% starting point.

It will make the process more complicated with no benefit. If the goal is to make inhaling easier, the atomizer needs to change. Larger air inlets, larger chimney, larger drip tip. But since the capacity of the lungs is fixed and finite, this just means more volume moving in a shorter amount of time. Ie, a 5 sec puff reduced to a 1 sec puff, inhaling the same amount of air. And if the coil diameter/surface area and power don't change, all you're doing is adding more air to a given amount of heat, reducing vapor density. A big lungful of wisp instead of vapor.

Chances of the lungs inhale vacuum created being strong enough to spin a larger fan (the size of a pop can) is about nil. Air follows the path of least resistance and would simply float around the fins of the fan without even nudging it. That's why when it comes to things like pc fans (disregarding the fact they're powered), the smaller fans at higher speeds produce more pressure with more sweep to the fins providing higher static pressure. Consider trying to vape a column of vapor produced by a small table 'turbo fan' vs getting a column of vapor from a lazy big ass ceiling fan. A powered fan would provide assistance, an inert powerless fan just becomes an air obstruction.


thats what i said.
 

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They kind of did this before with the Turbo RDA.
It has a fan inside it.

Here is local dipshit rip trippers telling us how amazing the thing is.

LOL I was wondering if anyone else remembered those whizzer tanks.
And trying to remember the brand/model.
 

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that is a scam. the fan is nothing more than a feature for those that want to show off. and it probably hurts flavor.
it hits better because of the size of the hole, i mean, look at that DT :eek:
Yeah the little turbo chops the flavor all up :)
 

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I'm not really getting it either, I second @Jinx'd in saying you should mock one up so we can see what you mean. Not hating on your idea, I just don't understand. I think you'll need to power your fan though.
 

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Drawing power. those fan blades have surface area, and once you get them spinning means more suction.

You know, when I first read your posts @Icarus69 I thought you were just way off base. OTOH, after thinking about it a bit I think you might be onto something that could be interesting.

Yes, I'm pretty open minded :)

Imo, read up on how turbochargers work and see if you can use any of that information to help you in your travels. If that pans out for you a bit you'll probably have a ton of learning and experimentation ahead of you before you get an understanding of how this stuff could help you. My bet is that you'll discover that it's not as easy as you think to make anything of it. But who knows, you may just be on the brink of the next big deal in vaping :cool:

Best of luck with it :)
 

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I remember when the Hells Gate came out and everyone lost their shit. My cloud game is going to be insane now!.........and then everyone realized that you could have a mod with 50 drippers and still wont change the amount of vapor your lungs can hold....lol
 

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