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So now medical professionals are mining vape forums for Ecig related issues

The Cromwell

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https://www.jmir.org/2020/1/e15684/

ABSTRACT
Background: Our previous infodemiological study was performed by manually mining health-effect data associated with electronic cigarettes (ECs) from online forums. Manual mining is time consuming and limits the number of posts that can be retrieved.

Objective: Our goal in this study was to automatically extract and analyze a large number (>41,000) of online forum posts related to the health effects associated with EC use between 2008 and 2015.

Methods: Data were annotated with medical concepts from the Unified Medical Language System using a modified version of the MetaMap tool. Of over 1.4 million posts, 41,216 were used to analyze symptoms (undiagnosed conditions) and disorders (physician-diagnosed terminology) associated with EC use. For each post, sentiment (positive, negative, and neutral) was also assigned.

Results: Symptom and disorder data were categorized into 12 organ systems or anatomical regions. Most posts on symptoms and disorders contained negative sentiment, and affected systems were similar across all years. Health effects were reported most often in the neurological, mouth and throat, and respiratory systems. The most frequently reported symptoms and disorders were headache (n=939), coughing (n=852), malaise (n=468), asthma (n=916), dehydration (n=803), and pharyngitis (n=565). In addition, users often reported linked symptoms (eg, coughing and headache).

Conclusions: Online forums are a valuable repository of data that can be used to identify positive and negative health effects associated with EC use. By automating extraction of online information, we obtained more data than in our prior study, identified new symptoms and disorders associated with EC use, determined which systems are most frequently adversely affected, identified specific symptoms and disorders most commonly reported, and tracked health effects over 7 years.
 

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Takes one to know one!

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peeps been skimming forums for ages ...one such example below

http://vapingunderground.com/threads/scientific-study.429998/#post-2226141

search study in the health related section there are others, at least this guy was up front

just be nice if researchers balanced out good and bad posts in health related, also those who are seeking answers but have other underlying issues non related....the kind of content cromwell linked is sadly biased towards the negative only
 

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https://www.jmir.org/2020/1/e15684/

ABSTRACT
Background: Our previous infodemiological study was performed by manually mining health-effect data associated with electronic cigarettes (ECs) from online forums. Manual mining is time consuming and limits the number of posts that can be retrieved.

Objective: Our goal in this study was to automatically extract and analyze a large number (>41,000) of online forum posts related to the health effects associated with EC use between 2008 and 2015.

Methods: Data were annotated with medical concepts from the Unified Medical Language System using a modified version of the MetaMap tool. Of over 1.4 million posts, 41,216 were used to analyze symptoms (undiagnosed conditions) and disorders (physician-diagnosed terminology) associated with EC use. For each post, sentiment (positive, negative, and neutral) was also assigned.

Results: Symptom and disorder data were categorized into 12 organ systems or anatomical regions. Most posts on symptoms and disorders contained negative sentiment, and affected systems were similar across all years. Health effects were reported most often in the neurological, mouth and throat, and respiratory systems. The most frequently reported symptoms and disorders were headache (n=939), coughing (n=852), malaise (n=468), asthma (n=916), dehydration (n=803), and pharyngitis (n=565). In addition, users often reported linked symptoms (eg, coughing and headache).

Conclusions: Online forums are a valuable repository of data that can be used to identify positive and negative health effects associated with EC use. By automating extraction of online information, we obtained more data than in our prior study, identified new symptoms and disorders associated with EC use, determined which systems are most frequently adversely affected, identified specific symptoms and disorders most commonly reported, and tracked health effects over 7 years.

Ya, this doesn't surprise me. There is a lot of data in forums and with computing power increasing as quickly as it does it will become easier and easier to make use of it.

Having a look at the numbers there seems to be very little negative data there. I don't know how they picked out the 41,200 posts to analyse from the total 1,400,000 they had. If those 41,200 were the only ones that had any 'medical' content that's about 3%. And out of those 41,200, very roughly 24% fell into the 12 categories which brings it to less than 1% and most of the categories were pretty insignificant 'medical' issues. My bet is there are a statistically insignificant number of actual medical issues. So, basically zero :)

Of course, the data can be presented any number of ways and made to look bad if that's what someone wants to do. It may not be all that easy to make it stick though. Time will tell I guess.
 

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This is the most garbage not-really-science ever :eek:

Especially if coughing etc is from someone who just started vaping five minutes before they posted.
But posts that people wrote about increased lung function or whatever wouldn’t be included.
 

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E-cigarettes 'have been making people ill for at least 12 YEARS' as doctors fear thousands of vaping-related illnesses have gone unreported amid spate of deaths in the US
  • Researchers in California trawled through online posts from 2008-2015
  • They found 45% of health-related comments were negative and 38% neutral
  • Health problems caused by e-cigarettes are under-reported, they argue

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/...health-problems-online-years-study-finds.html
 

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Daily mail ...always report shit tabloid news

below that article will probably be something about love island :facepalm:
 

The Cromwell

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Daily mail ...always report shit tabloid news

below that article will probably be something about love island :facepalm:
Actually I find out things about US news on Daily mail before US news covers it.
And US news will not cover aspects of news that might not reflect favorably on the US govt or certain political partys.
The US has it's own Pravda.

And yep all the gossip there too :)
 

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Actually I find out things about US news on Daily mail before US news covers it.
And US news will not cover aspects of news that might not reflect favorably on the US govt or certain political partys.
The US has it's own Pravda.

And yep all the gossip there too :)

But Russians used to say, “There’s no Truth in the News, and no News in the Truth.” About Pravda and Izvestia.
 

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