Best tank for airflow

Pauly Walnuts · Jan 25, 2015

Since ive graduated from my kayfun I havent looked back. I tried an orchid and it runs well, but the draw is simply too tight. My all day vape is a plume veil with a chuff cap, so all air holes are open.

Is there a tank out there that even gets close? I would freakin love to get around having to drip, but no tank has scratched that itch since I started into rda's.

moecat · Jan 25, 2015

I like the EHPRO Billow a lot. SMOK RSBT is also good for airflow but a bit noisy.

brettsill420 · Jan 25, 2015

ive been using the aspire atlantis for a few months now and love it. it has multiple air flow options, super durable (dropped from roof and didnt break), lets juice have full flavor effect, and the coils last forever

Pauly Walnuts · Jan 25, 2015

The billow has already caught my attention, but im not buying anything else until I get an airflow comparison to another atty that I own, say the orchid
So, how does this billow compare to a orchid, airflow wise?

I appreciate the input brett, but I refuse to spend money on replacement heads and dont trust pre build coils on my mechanicals (which is all I use). The kanger sub tank looks interesting, but is waaaaaaayyyyyyyy toooo expensive.

MKPM · Jan 25, 2015

The tightest setting on the SubTank Mini is identical to the Orchid V4.....there are two settings above that...and wide open is like lung hitting a Doge.

hazozita · Jan 25, 2015

Best I've used so far for airflow is the Goblin by UD. Have some complaints about it (small deck and capacity), but zero complaints about airflow.

vaporholic-gringo · Jan 25, 2015

Silverplay RTA from vapordna project subohm. I love this tank. Plus 95% of kayfun parts work with it

Robert B · Jan 26, 2015

Pauly Walnuts said:
The billow has already caught my attention, but im not buying anything else until I get an airflow comparison to another atty that I own, say the orchid
So, how does this billow compare to a orchid, airflow wise?

The billow is close to double the air flow I would say. How ever, it took 2 minutes to drill out the air holes on an Orchid I have, so try that first. I drilled the holes out with a 2.6mm bit (0.102 inch) and a hand drill, which makes the Orchid very similar to a Billow. A 7/64th bit is about 2.75mm which others say is even better.

MikeSully · Jan 26, 2015

I have the goblin, my brother has the silverplay. We both have billows. I also have an atlantis. The silverplay has the best airflow, followed by the goblin. However, we both LOVE the billow and they may actually get more use them the other two. I also ordered two nano kits for the billows. The Atlantis has big airflow and is reliable as hell but its not rebuildable and the flavor is not equivalent to the billow.

Sully · Jan 26, 2015

SilverPlay has the most airflow, followed by the Goblin, and lastly the Billow. I've retired all my other tanks...

MikeSully · Jan 26, 2015

Sully said:
SilverPlay has the most airflow, followed by the Goblin, and lastly the Billow. I've retired all my other tanks...

Lol, nice timing bro.

nightshard · Jan 26, 2015

The Goblin has two air holes, each 3X7 mm, can't beat that.

Sully · Jan 26, 2015

nightshard said:
The Goblin has two air holes, each 3X7 mm, can't beat that.

Sure you can! SilverPlay has 4x airflow holes (two 3mm and two 2mm) on the base and deck plus a larger diameter chimney (6mm) than the Goblin (4.8mm). I've used both. Like my brother and I posted above, SilverPlay has noticeably more airflow than the Goblin.

anendeloflorien · Jan 26, 2015

Yeah I think the silverplay is going to be my next tank!

Robert B · Jan 26, 2015

Sully said:
Sure you can! SilverPlay has 4x airflow holes (two 3mm and two 2mm) on the base and deck plus a larger diameter chimney (6mm) than the Goblin (4.8mm). I've used both. Like my brother and I posted above, SilverPlay has noticeably more airflow than the Goblin.

Do they make any parts for the Silverplay to increase the small 3ml juice capacity, while still maintaining the 6mm chimney? The juice capacity on the Billow is almost double, which is a huge plus IMO.

vaporholic-gringo · Jan 26, 2015

anendeloflorien said:
Yeah I think the silverplay is going to be my next tank!

I'm waiting for them to restock so I can buy a few more. It's an amazing tank

vaporholic-gringo · Jan 26, 2015

Robert B said:
Do they make any parts for the Silverplay to increase the small 3ml juice capacity, while still maintaining the 6mm chimney? The juice capacity on the Billow is almost double, which is a huge plus IMO.

Seen a guy on fb use the glass tank and rings from a kayfun v4 to increase the capacity to 5ml...makes it a little egg shaped but hell its 5ml

Sully · Jan 26, 2015

Robert B said:
Do they make any parts for the Silverplay to increase the small 3ml juice capacity, while still maintaining the 6mm chimney? The juice capacity on the Billow is almost double, which is a huge plus IMO.

I've read some threads over at ECF that showed a ton of configurations people have done. Most say you CAN use the 6mm chimney but you must use a strategically placed o-ring. I am interested in buying some kayfun parts and trying to increase my capacity, will keep you posted.

I love the billow too, don't get me wrong! The silverplay just has massive airflow compared to all other tanks, including the goblin.

Robert B · Jan 26, 2015

There's a new Orchid out that has a 7mm chimney. Looks like the RTA wars are heating up,, Good for us !!

Pauly Walnuts · Jan 26, 2015

Ill have to take a closer look at the silverplay. It seems like exactly what im looking for.
But hows the flavor? A 6mm chimney seems like it would carry alot of vapor.

fq06 · Jan 26, 2015

I think the silverplay chimney is the key to bigger air flow in the orchid style of tanks. Add as many air flow options as you want but you are ultimately limited by the chimney.

I have one on order at FT and will be drilling it to 7/64ths like all my other orchids. For a low cost $13 option, that looks good.
https://www.fasttech.com/product/2106100

If you want to pony up the $40 for the SP, that will have better air flow with the added air from the negative posts. But is it really an advantage with the chimney still being the limiting factor? I think it could be a FT cheapo beater if the extra air flow was directed at the coils but it's not. Don't get me wrong, I'm not bashing the SP. That's a great price for an authentic.

These new fatty chimneys also introduce something I think was missing from the orchid, a dome to the chamber.

MikeSully · Jan 26, 2015

fq06 said:
I think the silverplay chimney is the key to bigger air flow in the orchid style of tanks. Add as many air flow options as you want but you are ultimately limited by the chimney.

I have one on order at FT and will be drilling it to 7/64ths like all my other orchids. For a low cost $13 option, that looks good.
https://www.fasttech.com/product/2106100

If you want to pony up the $40 for the SP, that will have better air flow with the added air from the negative posts. But is it really an advantage with the chimney still being the limiting factor? I think it could be a FT cheapo beater if the extra air flow was directed at the coils but it's not. Don't get me wrong, I'm not bashing the SP. That's a great price for an authentic.

These new fatty chimneys also introduce something I think was missing from the orchid, a dome to the chamber.

I'm not following your math on the SP. The 6mm chimney is more than adequate for all of the airflow. Let's start with the chimney (Pi x R²) 3²x3.14=28.26mm².
Each 3mm airhole is 1.5²x3.14=7.065mm². Times 2=14.13mm². The 2mm hole is 1²x3.14=3.14mm². Add the airholes up and you have 17.27mm² of air holes feeding a 28.26mm² chimney. There's no choke point above the deck, that's for certain. Whether or not its all directed at the coils is another topic, bit I have no Orchid experience to go on. I do know, however that the SP my bro has kicks ass and has airflow for days. My $0.02

fq06 · Jan 26, 2015

I didn't look up the formula but I see 8mm of air flow holes and 6mm of chimney (2×3 & 2×2) so that's what i am going off. I by no means am discounting the SP, it is a marvelous rta and I would have one if it weren't so tall (I like them stubby) because it is superior to the clone.

I do expect the size of that chimney to whoop ass on my other orchids so you're not missing much

MrScaryZ · Jan 26, 2015

moecat said:
I like the EHPRO Billow a lot. SMOK RSBT is also good for airflow but a bit noisy.

My favorite tank at the moment is the EHpro Billow with the stainless tank I grabbed this a couple weeks ago and call me a liar most of the time
with a .3 -.5 ohm buid on it it gives consistern taste I have rarely seen sometimes if I get the voltage just right I would say better than any RDA I have at times IMHO

Pauly Walnuts · Jan 27, 2015

Which RDAs do you have?

MikeSully · Jan 27, 2015

fq06 said:
I didn't look up the formula but I see 8mm of air flow holes and 6mm of chimney (2×3 & 2×2) so that's what i am going off. I by no means am discounting the SP, it is a marvelous rta and I would have one if it weren't so tall (I like them stubby) because it is superior to the clone.

I do expect the size of that chimney to whoop ass on my other orchids so you're not missing much

Yea I got ya, I've seen a lot of people who are advertising and reviewing the Goblin and SP make the same mistake. They think that 2 x 3mm circles equal a 6mm circle when in fact 4 x 3mm circles would equal a 6mm circle. It's not addition with area calc's, and it's worth doing the right math to be in the know. If you lined the circles up side by side it'd be 8mm long, but only 2 or 3mm tall, not an 8mm circle. All good!

Edit: Whoops! It seems I forgot to add the second 2mm airhole in my above post. So the deck sends 20.41mm² of open airflow to a 28.26mm² chimney. My mistake! (Didn't realize there was 2)

floresroach · Jan 28, 2015

I own an atlantis, I regret nothing.

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