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Ebay is now stopping everyone from selling E-cig mods and excessaries
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Since this thread was made I have bought 2 mods, 3 rdas, and 2 spools of kanthal from ebay.
Makes you say hmmmm?
Makes you say hmmmm?
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Just a quick reply about "Kangertech" and it's blacklisting.
If you search Kangertech on ebay today, you get ~300 results.
However, in October 2014, there were 5000 results.
Taking it one step further, I received specific personal correspondence from ebay after an inquiry late last year which was worded in such a way that indicated the brand "Kangertech" was my offending problem because the company is an "e-cig" business by the company's own classification and description. This was not an MC999 or policy violation removal template email, but rather an email chain that started with an email to the CEO's publicly available email addresses.
If you search Kangertech on ebay today, you get ~300 results.
However, in October 2014, there were 5000 results.
Taking it one step further, I received specific personal correspondence from ebay after an inquiry late last year which was worded in such a way that indicated the brand "Kangertech" was my offending problem because the company is an "e-cig" business by the company's own classification and description. This was not an MC999 or policy violation removal template email, but rather an email chain that started with an email to the CEO's publicly available email addresses.
Ebay is in the process of removing listings. My company did almost $400,000 in sales on ebay last year and I just got slapped with a 30 day suspension and I was told that the next violation would result in a 1 year suspension or lifetime.
This is the key "items that are e-Cigarettes by name or by manufacturer classification." I am assuming that it will take time for them to nail everyone, but I think they are serious about this for now. At least until it starts effecting stock prices. If I did $400k in sales that means that the sales of ecigs on ebay was in the 6 or 7 figures which has to have at least some visible effect on their profits.
On the upside many of the sellers are moving to Bonanza which has a more tolerant stance on ecigs at least so far. I was able to directly import all my ebay listings there and am waiting for them to get approved.
Here's a link
http://www.bonanza.com/
Sears and new egg also have community market places. Not sure what their stance on ecigs is, but my guess one of these sites is going to figure out that there is money to be made and also that this could be a huge boost for getting more customers on their sites. Maybe we will all get lucky and this is the beginning of the end for ebay. Have always hated selling there, but it was the best choice for visibility.
This is the key "items that are e-Cigarettes by name or by manufacturer classification." I am assuming that it will take time for them to nail everyone, but I think they are serious about this for now. At least until it starts effecting stock prices. If I did $400k in sales that means that the sales of ecigs on ebay was in the 6 or 7 figures which has to have at least some visible effect on their profits.
On the upside many of the sellers are moving to Bonanza which has a more tolerant stance on ecigs at least so far. I was able to directly import all my ebay listings there and am waiting for them to get approved.
Here's a link
http://www.bonanza.com/
Sears and new egg also have community market places. Not sure what their stance on ecigs is, but my guess one of these sites is going to figure out that there is money to be made and also that this could be a huge boost for getting more customers on their sites. Maybe we will all get lucky and this is the beginning of the end for ebay. Have always hated selling there, but it was the best choice for visibility.
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Not really commenting on Ebay's actions, but those "related searches" listings are not categories, they are just search terms that other people have used that are similar to the ones you used.
One would think if they are banning anything that says "e-cig", they would and could censor the search results. Fact is, sellers are still using the word "e-cigarette" and "kangertech", and everything else, in their listings and not getting banned.
But your correct, the listings are under consumer electronics/gadgets/devices category
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Yes. I'm personally thinking that they are not really paying much attention to it unless someone files a complaint. It would be to easy for any programmer to simply add a module to the system that blocked ads from using keywords or analyzing existing ads for same keywords.
I think it comes to their attention via other sellers reporting each other like @5150sick said earlier.
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This is the key "items that are e-Cigarettes by name or by manufacturer classification."
They are removing listings right now for innokin, aspire, kanger and vision with a aspire being the one they are nailing the hardest the last few days. If the manufacturer classifies them as ecigs they are removing them and slapping sellers with restrictions.
If you do a search for "aspire atomizer" you will see that where there use to be seven to eight thousand there are now, just checked, 18
We have had at least 60 listing removed that were kanger, aspire, innokin and vision.
This policy was instated back in August when the FDA released it's bash on ecigs in retaliation for congress not giving them what they wanted.
There will still be ecig stuff on ebay, but there will be less of a selection and the bigger sellers are pulling out.
They are doing key word searches for specific manufacturers right now. They may just be doing a half ass attempt right now like they have done in the past and then lighten up or they may be taking it more seriously. We will see.
This is the key "items that are e-Cigarettes by name or by manufacturer classification."
They are removing listings right now for innokin, aspire, kanger and vision with a aspire being the one they are nailing the hardest the last few days. If the manufacturer classifies them as ecigs they are removing them and slapping sellers with restrictions.
If you do a search for "aspire atomizer" you will see that where there use to be seven to eight thousand there are now, just checked, 18
We have had at least 60 listing removed that were kanger, aspire, innokin and vision.
This policy was instated back in August when the FDA released it's bash on ecigs in retaliation for congress not giving them what they wanted.
There will still be ecig stuff on ebay, but there will be less of a selection and the bigger sellers are pulling out.
They are doing key word searches for specific manufacturers right now. They may just be doing a half ass attempt right now like they have done in the past and then lighten up or they may be taking it more seriously. We will see.
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Paypal has rules against buying gun parts or anything gun related. However, many people are able to buy gun parts, using paypal, and they do it every day. Im glad they turn a blind eye, these things can be bought so many other places online it makes no difference.
Vapor and gun supplies inherently carry a miniscule liability. If someone hurts themselves, they could possibly sue ebay or paypal. However unlikely this may be, its still possible.
Vapor and gun supplies inherently carry a miniscule liability. If someone hurts themselves, they could possibly sue ebay or paypal. However unlikely this may be, its still possible.
Wonder why they picked you out of the 500 listings that are still there that have "Smoktech" in the title? Any idea?
I don't think it has to do anything with the way you word you items. I am extremely careful about how I word my listings, however it is your competition you need to worry about. They will report your item because they know that it is in violation of their "tobacco" policy and most sellers, to include myself will take a loss of losing the listing in order to stay under the radar. Ebay, will not help and you will run the risk of having your account closed if you raise to much hell about it. I would love to hear others thoughts on this. I have had many listings taken down because a competitor did not have the gumption to write a better listing with competitive pricing.funny.. I am waiting on 10 different orders from ebay, one from fasttech, one from Russia, and one from Seattle..
I have no issues finding vaping gear on ebay.. if this was the case, i wouldnt be able to spend money there.
Like Joe says.. Watch how you word your sales items!!! common sense rules.. when you have it.
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Did anyone stop and think that the Chinese manufacturers that are involved in price fixing are the ones everyone is having problems with?
You can buy weed vaporizers all day on eBay but not a
"Kangertech Kanger SubTank Sub Ohm cheapest on eBay"
Did anyone think that these companies do not want people to buy their subtank for $40?
They make the "Authorized Reseller" sell it for $49.99 at the lowest
They even go so far that they flag their own REAL shipments as counterfeit!!!
You scratch the code and press the blue dot and all that bullshit not to find out if it's real or "fake" but to find out of the dude who you bought it from got caught trying to sell it for less then they told him to.
These companies go very far to keep the price high on this shit.
All the names mentioned in this thread Smoktech Kangertech Aspire Innokin, etc... do this
Then you have clones which are fine. I have clones and like them.
I have authentics and like them.
I don't give a shit either way as long as it works right and i like it.
But if i'm some "high end" mod making elitist fuck who makes one atty (that looks almost like the 5000 other attys on the market) and i'm in my moms basement (where elitest mod makers live) and my shit gets cloned.
Don't you think I would go through every once in a while and flag the clone listings on eBay?
These guys don't do anything else but live in Internet land.
It ain't like they have fucking JOBS or anything besides pumping out limited runs of atties they pay $8.00 to make in order to sell them for $150.00
So why not flag the $12 clones of your "money maker" when you see someone "stealing your idea" on eBay?
So you guys who are selling on eBay are getting fucked from all sides
1) competitors who don't like competition
2) Chinese manufacturers who price fix
3) High End mod makers who see clones as stealing from them
No wonder you don't know who is fucking you.
Because just about everyone except your customers is fucking you.
I have yet to EVER see of hear of someone listing a homemade 120 watt raptor dual 18650 hammond 1590b box and having it pulled from eBay.
Have you ever heard of it?
How about an authentic California made mech mod or atty?
Ever hear of them getting pulled?
You can buy weed vaporizers all day on eBay but not a
"Kangertech Kanger SubTank Sub Ohm cheapest on eBay"
Did anyone think that these companies do not want people to buy their subtank for $40?
They make the "Authorized Reseller" sell it for $49.99 at the lowest
They even go so far that they flag their own REAL shipments as counterfeit!!!
You scratch the code and press the blue dot and all that bullshit not to find out if it's real or "fake" but to find out of the dude who you bought it from got caught trying to sell it for less then they told him to.
These companies go very far to keep the price high on this shit.
All the names mentioned in this thread Smoktech Kangertech Aspire Innokin, etc... do this
Then you have clones which are fine. I have clones and like them.
I have authentics and like them.
I don't give a shit either way as long as it works right and i like it.
But if i'm some "high end" mod making elitist fuck who makes one atty (that looks almost like the 5000 other attys on the market) and i'm in my moms basement (where elitest mod makers live) and my shit gets cloned.
Don't you think I would go through every once in a while and flag the clone listings on eBay?
These guys don't do anything else but live in Internet land.
It ain't like they have fucking JOBS or anything besides pumping out limited runs of atties they pay $8.00 to make in order to sell them for $150.00
So why not flag the $12 clones of your "money maker" when you see someone "stealing your idea" on eBay?
So you guys who are selling on eBay are getting fucked from all sides
1) competitors who don't like competition
2) Chinese manufacturers who price fix
3) High End mod makers who see clones as stealing from them
No wonder you don't know who is fucking you.
Because just about everyone except your customers is fucking you.
I have yet to EVER see of hear of someone listing a homemade 120 watt raptor dual 18650 hammond 1590b box and having it pulled from eBay.
Have you ever heard of it?
How about an authentic California made mech mod or atty?
Ever hear of them getting pulled?
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it is the wording, when flagged that will bring you down.. from my understanding.. also, @5150sick has it right..
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Really? Who woulda thought. LOL
Huh? Amazon takes down listings a lot faster than eBay ever did.
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If Ebay was putting an all out ban on e-cig/vaping equipment then the listings would be rejected when the seller submitted the sell your item form and would give the seller a warning at the top of the page. I know because I had it happen several years ago when trying to list a chip that is installed in a Wii allowing it to read burned dvd's. It was called a Wiikey and when I tried to submit the listing it blocked it and gave me a warning which explained that such devices are not allowed. I also got a strike against me even though the listing was never posted. This was 3-4 years ago and I know they have better software with more capibilities then they did 4 years ago.
I have noticed lately that all the listings I've looked at all have disclaimers stating something like "This product contains no tobacco". Maybe this disclaimer is required now and listings that don't have it are the ones being pulled?
I have noticed lately that all the listings I've looked at all have disclaimers stating something like "This product contains no tobacco". Maybe this disclaimer is required now and listings that don't have it are the ones being pulled?
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I just bought a rba this morning and a rda yesterday and a Kayfun V4 last week and had no problems at all. The biggest problem I had was trying to decide which ones to buy because of the large selection. All 3 listings did have the disclaimer.
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I get the same disclaimer when looking at flavorings, even when the description reads that they can be used to make e liquids. Go figure. And I should be getting the five tanks I ordered from them tomorrow.....even though I promised not to use them for nicotine consumption...
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The flavorings that we use to make juice with are originally made as food additives and not specifically for eliquid. So I guess it falls into sort of a grey area which makes it more difficult for Ebay legally. Apparently there are specific policies regarding the sale of tobacco and tobacco products most likely due to strict tabacco laws and licensing.
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I saw a seller selling "vintage" unopened packs of cigarettes in the tobacco section yesterday.
Kind of took me by surprise.
Another reason for eBay to wait until listings are reported to take them down is they get to keep the listing fee anyway.
Kanger, aspire, innokin, etc... probably pay people to report listings selling at a lower price then they see fit.
I noticed that "Innokin iTaste VTR" will get taken down just about every time but just "iTaste VTR" stays up for the duration of the sale.
So maybe just "Genuine Subtank" would get a pass when "Genuine Kangertech Subtank" would get flagged?
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Might have something to do with some sort of VERO (Verified Rights Owners program) violation.
I received the same stock email others have posted from ebay saying they were removing two of my listings. The weird thing was that I got the emails for both listings this week, but both were sold and paid for about 6 weeks ago. Seems ridiculous that they would "remove" a listing that has already been removed since the items were sold.
One was for a Sigelei 8W; the other was for a Ehpro Kayfun clone.
One was for a Sigelei 8W; the other was for a Ehpro Kayfun clone.
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Are you sure they are from ebay? Maybe spoofs from a competitor trying to scare you away from listing future items? I would forward them to ebay's spoof dept and verify if they are legit or not.
I bought an istick 50 watt today and it has the disclaimer
I bought an istick 50 watt today and it has the disclaimer
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Yeah, but is 'Flea-Bay' prohibiting the sale of the non-existent, or bodily fluids, or live organs..?
lets say there's a vaping enthusiast who is disabled due to a dumbass texting and driving rear ending them...this individual would not have much money at all...where could they find really really cheap atty's that don't completely suck? i'm already at the point of making my own mech mods, i really don't have a choice especially if i want something variable.....frustrating...i already blow through juice like nobodies business and now my girl is vaping too lol
Fasttech.com Even cheaper than ebay 99% of the time
Ebay is methodically pulling listings. The way they are doing it now is by manufacturer name. They check the products with the manufacturer and if anywhere in the description it says it is an "ecigarette" etc they yank the listings. So far they have done this for aspire, kanger, vision, innokin, ismoka, seego and others. While you can still find the occasional item for these it is not like a year ago where there were over 5k listings for kanger products. The products on the hit list that are occasionally up are most often over priced now
Last week they took down our adds for Tobeco products.
Having said that there are a lot of websites out there that have a good selection of products and market places like Bonanza, iOffer and Newegg I think will be filling the void that ebay is opening.
As for fastech I have gotten as many total crap products from them as I have good quality items
Last week they took down our adds for Tobeco products.
Having said that there are a lot of websites out there that have a good selection of products and market places like Bonanza, iOffer and Newegg I think will be filling the void that ebay is opening.
As for fastech I have gotten as many total crap products from them as I have good quality items
i just got a cherry bomber clone with a mutation x v2 for $34 free shipping. you just gotta look. i don't use tanks and it seems rda's are more under the radar. i don't know too much about this situation, but i looked through thousands of postings for rda, coils/wire, variable and mech mods all on ebay. the selection was huge, this was two days ago.
ill check fasttech out thanks for the tip!
Yeah, if you find something you like, read the reviews and the discussions. They help to get a better idea of the quality of the item. Sometimes they will have two mods that look the same, but one will be a couple dollars less. Don't automatically go for the cheaper one. The fasttech forums can be pretty helpful.
Ebay is schizoid on e-cig stuff. But if you want something really weird, see Amazon. They allow mods, batteries, etc. They allow VG, PG, and flavorings. But they don't allow zero-nic e-juice (which is obviously VG/PG/flavorings mixed together.) But the really odd things is they allow unflavored nicotine liquid (example, 40 mg/ml) as long as the description says it's to be used to make your own nicotine gum or lozenges.
So you can order everything you need to make eliquid (VG/PG/flavorings/nicotine) but you can't sell any of it mixed together.
So you can order everything you need to make eliquid (VG/PG/flavorings/nicotine) but you can't sell any of it mixed together.
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I have been selling rda's and rayon on ebay for a couple of months now and have had no issues what so ever. No listings pulled. Have 2 listings up now that have been set to run until cancelled and they just keep going. Maybe the items being pulled that are using name brands are being pulled for VERO violations. I had a Sony digital camera for sale on ebay a couple years ago and it was pulled for a VERO violation because the background in my listing had Sony's logo in it. So I can only imagine that VERO has gotten even tougher restrictions since then and will continue to clamp down more and more. Neither of my 2 listings mention any name brands, my rda's just state the style of rda (Fatboy, Tugboat, Little Boy..etc) and that it is a clone. Also the clones that I sell come in generic boxes with no name brand on them so my pictures do not have any name brands in them as well.
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Where did you read that ebay is revising allowing some ecig things? What kind of things are you referring to. I just saw their restricted list and e-cig and their components are still listed on it.
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Warning: ebay sells Q-Tips to be used as Q-Tips for body cavity use only. Purchasing them with the intention of unwrapping the cotton to use as a wick in electronic cigarettes is a violation of our Terms Of Service. Void where prohibited. Local, State, and Federal Laws may apply. Driver on closed course - do not attempt. Think of the children. Lalalalala.
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I just typed in "E Cig" in the ebay search and came up with 5952 results,so I don't understand what every body is saying ebay is stopping sell of ecigs
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Sellers get their listings removed as ebay finds them and accounts suspended for certain time periods or banned altogether.
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Yes for the consumer it does not matter as much because as eBay removes some listings or bans some sellers, is as quickly as other sellers re-list items or create another user name to re-list under. The ban poses more of a problem for the sellers, not the buyers unless you are loyal to certain sellers that keep getting their stuff removed.
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I have several sellers I follow and none of them have gotten removed,,,,,so I still don't understand what ya'll are getting at,,,,,,just my 2 cents,,,,have a great day