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I just got my Kangxin V3 Vaporflask today, 40watt with temp control. The temp control works, it works REALLY well and is accurate, the watts and volts displayed when it fires are on the mark. on a .38 ohm standard Kanthal coil, Ohms law calculated 40 watts at 3.89 volts. The V3 displayed 3.9 volts.

In temp control mode at 22 watts, 470 Degrees with a .17 Ni200 coil, the mod just varies the watts down as the coil hits 470 degrees, there's no "Temp Control" messages flashing at you, the mod just does it's thing and lowers the watts while you vape. Overall, I'm really impressed with the construction and accuracy of the mod. The bottom battery caps screw in flush, the charger works, and the left/right/stealth/wattage lock functions work. There's no wake up time from sleep before the mod fires.

The positive 510 pin is adjustable with a slot screwdriver, it's not spring loaded, my only functional negative about the mod at this point. For the price point of $70, this mod is an incredible value. I'll deal with manually adjusting the 510 positive contact at that price. If it holds up to daily use, it will be a real challenger to the $300 authentic. I've used an authentic and the fit and finish on the clone are actually better. No missing screws, no DNA40 screen pixelating problems.

The bottom of the mod has made in USA on it with the Vaporflask logo, that's a negative in my book. Kangxin made a good clone, why not just put their name on the bottom? The mod is finished nicer and works better than the authentic, why not capitalize on that?

Happy to hear that you got a winner, I hope that everyone's Kangxin flask continues to hold up .. am vaping mine right now, but with Kanthal :) But I see you received the USB port version, so after you have charged a few times via USB let us know how it is working.

Interesting factoid .. The early batches of the Kangxin Flask actually had Vaporwall engraved on the bottom, not Vaporflask. And When I say early, I mean back in November/December before anyone in the US even knew the Kangxin flask existed. The battery caps and 510 were also initially bare, unpolished or plated brass too .. I know they have gone back to brass now after running with copper plated brass for a while.

Kangxin has made a few knee jerk changes to their Flask, the engravings, plating vs bare metal, packaging, and now adding the USB charge port.
 

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I have a question about the DNA40 clone(s): does the battery meter work properly - as in, does it reflect the actual battery's voltage, or did they replicate the authentic's stupid and dysfunctional "remaining vaping time calculated with black magic" thing?
 

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I just got my Kangxin V3 Vaporflask today, 40watt with temp control. The temp control works, it works REALLY well and is accurate, the watts and volts displayed when it fires are on the mark. on a .38 ohm standard Kanthal coil, Ohms law calculated 40 watts at 3.89 volts. The V3 displayed 3.9 volts.

In temp control mode at 22 watts, 470 Degrees with a .17 Ni200 coil, the mod just varies the watts down as the coil hits 470 degrees, there's no "Temp Control" messages flashing at you, the mod just does it's thing and lowers the watts while you vape. Overall, I'm really impressed with the construction and accuracy of the mod. The bottom battery caps screw in flush, the charger works, and the left/right/stealth/wattage lock functions work. There's no wake up time from sleep before the mod fires.

The positive 510 pin is adjustable with a slot screwdriver, it's not spring loaded, my only functional negative about the mod at this point. For the price point of $70, this mod is an incredible value. I'll deal with manually adjusting the 510 positive contact at that price. If it holds up to daily use, it will be a real challenger to the $300 authentic. I've used an authentic and the fit and finish on the clone are actually better. No missing screws, no DNA40 screen pixelating problems.

The bottom of the mod has made in USA on it with the Vaporflask logo, that's a negative in my book. Kangxin made a good clone, why not just put their name on the bottom? The mod is finished nicer and works better than the authentic, why not capitalize on that?
Thank you for this. I have a flask comming my way, from 3fvapes :) I belive those are the Kangxine ones, and the upgraded Version With usb. The 510 is copper or brass, not over happy With that, but at 71 USD, I take it.
 

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I have a question about the DNA40 clone(s): does the battery meter work properly - as in, does it reflect the actual battery's voltage, or did they replicate the authentic's stupid and dysfunctional "remaining vaping time calculated with black magic" thing?
No, the battery meter works as a battery meter, no bouncing around calculating remaining vaping time. I've hit mine pretty hard at 40 watts yesterday with a Vulcan Dripper @ .37 ohms. Used about 50% of the battery life, which the meter shows as a half empty (or half full if you're an optimist). It's charging atm, I'm using a 1 amp wall charger, but I think the charging circuit is limited to 500Mah. I'll post some more thoughts after charging/discharging this mod a few times. Overall, I'm pretty impressed so far.

BTW, I'm using LGHE4's in it, no problem with fit, same with VTC5's, Samsung 25R's and LGHE2's
 

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Thank you for this. I have a flask comming my way, from 3fvapes :) I belive those are the Kangxine ones, and the upgraded Version With usb. The 510 is copper or brass, not over happy With that, but at 71 USD, I take it.
Yes the 510 connector is brass, so some caution is needed not to cross thread atty's with oversize 510's.
 

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Happy to hear that you got a winner, I hope that everyone's Kangxin flask continues to hold up .. am vaping mine right now, but with Kanthal :) But I see you received the USB port version, so after you have charged a few times via USB let us know how it is working.

Interesting factoid .. The early batches of the Kangxin Flask actually had Vaporwall engraved on the bottom, not Vaporflask. And When I say early, I mean back in November/December before anyone in the US even knew the Kangxin flask existed. The battery caps and 510 were also initially bare, unpolished or plated brass too .. I know they have gone back to brass now after running with copper plated brass for a while.

Kangxin has made a few knee jerk changes to their Flask, the engravings, plating vs bare metal, packaging, and now adding the USB charge port.
The packaging is nice, like an iPhone box. Comes with a usb charging cable and a nice little pouch to store the mod in then not in use. The manual is pretty much standard Chinglish, but understandable.
 

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No, the battery meter works as a battery meter, no bouncing around calculating remaining vaping time. I've hit mine pretty hard at 40 watts yesterday with a Vulcan Dripper @ .37 ohms. Used about 50% of the battery life, which the meter shows as a half empty (or half full if you're an optimist). It's charging atm, I'm using a 1 amp wall charger, but I think the charging circuit is limited to 500Mah. I'll post some more thoughts after charging/discharging this mod a few times. Overall, I'm pretty impressed so far.

BTW, I'm using LGHE4's in it, no problem with fit, same with VTC5's, Samsung 25R's and LGHE2's
You might hacve a 1 amp charger. The sxk flask charger is 1 amp. when I fried my clone board i looked at the charger board which also fried and it had sxk 1 amp printed on it which sucks that I fried it :( my Evolv charge board is only 500ma takes forever to charge two 25r's
 

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I can confirm its 500 Mah, took 6 Hours to charge 2 HE4's. At least the batteries will have a longer lifespan...
 

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I can confirm its 500 Mah, took 6 Hours to charge 2 HE4's. At least the batteries will have a longer lifespan...

That is why I don't mind having the version minus the usb charge port, at least my D4 will get them done in about 2.5/3 hours :p
 

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You might hacve a 1 amp charger. The sxk flask charger is 1 amp. when I fried my clone board i looked at the charger board which also fried and it had sxk 1 amp printed on it which sucks that I fried it :( my Evolv charge board is only 500ma takes forever to charge two 25r's

Yeah that's another thing that bothers me with the Evolv offering: no 1A or 2A charge module? Really? With the two 3100 mAh batteries in my flask, I'd better not forget to connect it to a USB port before 11pm, or it won't be done by the time I I leave home at 7am the next morning.

The Chinese copy looks more and more appealing, the more I compare it to the authentic...
 

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Would these buttons work as replacements I know I'll break mine they are 6Ă—6mm
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i do not believe they will fit. everything is slotted in boards and a lot of wire stuffed in. I repaired mine easily and replaced the chip.
 

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How did you take the up down buttons off? They appear glued on. This one from fast tech has some red looking glue they don't pop off.
I used the original button board. works still today
 

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i do not believe they will fit. everything is slotted in boards and a lot of wire stuffed in. I repaired mine easily and replaced the chip.
They are 6x6mm buttons with a square head that's 6.7mm height I replaced the one I broke when I did my dna40 swap
 

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I used the original button board. works still today
I took my sister board off it made the swap easier and it looks like the authentic without it :) he buttons are held one with the tabs. I believe I have a picture up on this thread.
 

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I've gone through a few discharge/charge cycles with the USB, no issue other than it taking 6 hours with nearly empty HE4's. I can deal with that for the $70 price tag.
 

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So I'm hearing some chatter on the Fasttech forums that there's a version out there with an SRX made housing and the Kangxin KX-40D board.

SRX and Kangxin have now the USB upgrade.
AND they both use the same white packaging box

BUT the Kangxin Version has a screw on the top of the battery pole where you can adjust the height.

Buttons are a bit different from SRX and Kangxin but both work fine.
Both carry KX-40D chip.

So right now still Kangxin would be first but SRX would do it as well.

Might even explain the "random" copper or brass 510/battery cap thing...Kangxin couldn't keep up with demand, sub-contracted out to SRX, and SRX uses brass.

There's an easy to spot difference according to that chatter...the Kangxin flask has adjustable screws at the top of the battery tubes, the SRX does not.

Shame they couldn't have sent boards to SXK instead...SXK's superior build and Kangxin's superior board. :(
 

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And it looks like the Wadea clone finally went up for sale:

http://www.3fvape.com/vv-vw-mod/283...charger-temperature-control.html#.VPW5dfnF-2Y

Note the brass firing button on the silver version, no air channel in the 510, and that the description states that the 510 connector is not spring loaded. Keep working at it Wadea.

On a related note, my Kangxin USB flask (brass version) arrived yesterday. Pretty happy with it aside from the 510 connector (it needs adjustment on just about every atty I screw on). Finish was flawless, threads are smooth and paint-free, battery caps line up just like a real VF

Took a flash picture of inside the tube to show the adjustment screws near the top, in case anyone is having battery connection issues, try using them:

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Also shot a quick and dirty Ni200 build, temp control is functional, even with a Kayfun V4 clone and that fiddly spring connection.

 

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LMAOF, OK a bit late for the party but really Nicole you cracked me up with your first intro comment about this flask as having, "No gaps or irregularities in the top plate." Damn good start for this clone, no one knows gaps or irregularities like I do.. LOL
 

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So, I am getting ready to buy a Vaporflask clone what's the verdict on which is best? And, where is the best place to order one? Focal, FT or elsewhere? I don't have to have the 40 clone board, 30 is fine.
 

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Haha, i just recently bought an original Vapor Flask V2.1 and now i ordered a clone DNA30 version and an authentic DNA40 chip. Half DIY i guess, but i just like this thing a lot.
 

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So, I am getting ready to buy a Vaporflask clone what's the verdict on which is best? And, where is the best place to order one? Focal, FT or elsewhere? I don't have to have the 40 clone board, 30 is fine.
I've got a Infinite (SXK?) Flask 30w Black for sale , barely used like maybe 30 minutes??, absolutely like new Jan. 2015, just want to get rid of it. Will be posting this, and some authentic VF's, and a few other things on the For Sale thread, what ever it's called.
I will try and get this clone flask posted by Thursday if you can hold out that long, really swamped right now.
Bye the way, I don't know what this mod is worth used, $50 + shipping ??, I know what I paid, like to much, get some prices for whats selling right now & maybe I can beat the price??
It really needs a board upgrade IMO, watch for my post if your interested..
 

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What's up with the board that you feel it is sub part on?
 

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What's up with the board that you feel it is sub part on?
I just feel it's a cheap chip set, it does work fine..
You know if you would like you should go read this review by Nicole Lee, http://vapingcheap.com/vapor-flask-v2-clone-review/
Her review is spot on, best I've read and very detailed, a great piece of work IMO..
If you scan towards the bottom of her review and read the section Function, she writes about the chip.
Her sentiments on this clone are the same as mine precisely and relevant to the flask clone I'll be selling, and though her Flask doesn't have the brand "Infinite" on her flask, it is my opinion and others that this Infinite is actually the same as the clone flask in this review a SXK and just branded with the Infinite logo, if you follow me, so her thoughts on the mod are exactly the same as mine, her specs and observations are the same as it would be for this mod.
The only error in her review was a mention of not being able to lock the wattage but the comment was certainly understandable if following the directions as even the vendor I bought from didn't know how to do this locking wattage and I figured it out by accident.
If you follow the instructions the "Lock" mode will NOT work for sure, but if you follow my directions it will lock the wattage, albeit a very stupid way to have this chip set operate, which is one of the things I just don't like, the way to lock wattage is to follow the directions but then when it says to push and hold the buttons, the + & - I believe it was, well that's not correct, you have to follow directions the when it gets to holding buttons, you have to hold all 3 buttons to lock the wattage, very stupid frankly..
I own authentic Flasks and only bought this clone to compare the build quality, curiosity frankly and now I just want to sell it.
I just think also that a person could have a really great mod with a better chip for less than what an original costs, but only as long as you didn't pay what I paid for this clone, I can be rather knee jerk at times, hum..
A regular vape head who doesn't care about this or that or be all picky like I am will have no problems with this clone, it works OK.
I'm going to get some better pics for over at that For Sale thread here, hopefully by Thursday.
It is a nicely machined and assembled mod, but as I mentioned it could have been great if they'd just used a little better quality chip, that's it really, like a simple chip that would have some flash memory even??
 

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pyro073

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I'm not super picky on the chip just as long as it functions properly with proper output an doesnt chew up batteries like my Robbot ZNA. I have authentic DNA devices and I have a few cloned DNA devices.
 

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I'm not super picky on the chip just as long as it functions properly with proper output an doesnt chew up batteries like my Robbot ZNA. I have authentic DNA devices and I have a few cloned DNA devices.
I hear ya, watch for my post hopefully by weeks end or this weekend, need to take pics etc. This would work well for you.
If you haven't yet, please do read that review by Ms. Nicole, it tells you everything you need to know about this mod and then some,
Vape On
 
I recently received my Kangxin version 3 (from 3FVape, model#1660) and have been enjoying it for the last week or so. All seems to be working just as advertised, and build quality seems very good as well. Does anyone know if there is a way to completely turn it off without removing the batteries? I understand the sleep and stealth modes, and how to lock it etc., but unless I'm missing something, there doesn't seem to be a way to completely power it down without removing the batteries.
 
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I don't believe there is anyway to completely turn these off.
I have authentic flasks and a clone flask and none of them will turn off as your inquiring about, just goes into a sleep even after the 5x off, then after that if you hit the fire button it will come out of sleep and light the display even though you'd have to then 5x for on to make it operate.
As you mentioned the only way to completely disconnect the power is by removing the batteries, I do get why your wondering.
I had another mod that was the same way but with a rather lousy chip set and even though it was in their off mode and then in sleep mode the mods chip was still drawing some power.
I had left that mod sitting on my desk with it's single battery source for about a month and even though I hadn't used it at all when I went to use it, it had only about a half charge left on the battery from a fully charged battery, so the chip was still drawing the power down, I think...
I have noticed though that the Evolv chip it doesn't seem to have that issue of drawing down power while in sleep mode and unused for a length of time.
With all that said though, I would suspect that not all chips are created equal, I know, Oh Really??... LOL
By the way I had never heard of that company so I went and took a look at what you bought, looks decent but wish they would have named the chip maker, price didn't seem to bad either, I don't know who is making those temp control clone chips, would be interested to know.
 
Thanks, it's not really a problem, just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something. This particular clone (by Kangxin) seems to be very well made (there are several other similar ones out there from SXK, Wadea etc that are of varying quality). The chip in this one is an Evolv copy either made by Kangxin (They call it a KX-400) or made by someone who builds it for them. Looking around the web, many have said it works as well or even better than the original. I couldn't argue as mine is great. Some have complained about the adjustable 510 (this particular model uses a screw, it's not spring loaded), but I prefer it to most spring loaded 510s as the connection is very solid. I don't mind making a minor adjustment every now and then if a different topper requires it (it's rare). The 510 appears to be made of brass, and some say it's easy to cross thread, but I haven't had any problems with it at all. A great buy in my opinion.
 
@Nikkita do you know what rate the USB charges? It would be great it it was a 1amp charger since its dual batt.
I ment to take pictures but I was in the zone and forgot. Tomorrow my charge board should be in and I'll take a few pics of the insides


Hello Drey, i'm not sure if you got my first message but I thought I seen where you posted that you can change the boards in the vapor flasks?? Mine is a Kangxin 40 watt with temperature control and I bought it directly from China and it will not show on the screen The maker of the board and it has other issues!! I would like to have a DNA 40 watt Evolv with temperature control!! I don't want to chance it because I have had a few surgeries and my hands shake very bad!!! I have been a welder all my life and I could weld anything or Solder anything!! Are you up to the challenge of swapping the board out??? Please let me know what you would need besides the board of course!!

I would appreciate your help!! Thank you very much, Tab
 

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