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Hmm, I've just noticed my new DNA40 device also displays the temperature in Celsius. Well guess what? That too is buggy! Just tried it, and yep, mine's got it too.

Gee, one more function, one more bug... It's so absurdly amateurish, at some point you have to laugh at it I guess :)
 

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i know this is just reddit chatter but still makes you go hmm

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im still getting an sx mini but this would be the top contender imo if vaporshark were to do it. looks to me like the new screen made the problems worse? anyone else getting that vibe?
 

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A guy bought one at the Vaporshark booth at VCCT. Screen scrambled immediately. http://www.reddit.com/r/electronic_cigarette/comments/2xj4l9/rdna_from_the_vaporshark_booth_at_vcct/

Vaporshark must be freaking out about evolv potentially wrecking their business. Must be a horrible quandary to be in. Really feel sorry for VS since it's no fault of their own. If I were VS, I would have flown to China and had face to face talks with YiHi.
I could see Vaporshark switching over to the YiHi Mini temp control board in the near future.
 

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Ah! My replacement Vaporshark is on its way. Kudos to Vaporshark and the Dutch distributor for a quick and painless service.

VS sure stand behind their products, and are willing to work things out with their customers: they only require a photo or video of the scrambled screen to immediately replace the unit no questions asked, and cover the costs of returning it. I almost feel bad for them for having to soak up the costs of Evolv's ineptitude, in order to maintain their reputation, when it's not really their fault.

Hopefully the new unit's DNA40 board will work flawlessly - although I'm not holding my breath...
 

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Ah! My replacement Vaporshark is on its way. Kudos to Vaporshark and the Dutch distributor for a quick and painless service.

VS sure stand behind their products, and are willing to work things out with their customers: they only require a photo or video of the scrambled screen to immediately replace the unit no questions asked, and cover the costs of returning it. I almost feel bad for them for having to soak up the costs of Evolv's ineptitude, in order to maintain their reputation, when it's not really their fault.

Hopefully the new unit's DNA40 board will work flawlessly - although I'm not holding my breath...
I feel bad for them too, they go through, at least they used to, test the replacement units with both a nickel and Kanthal build. But I don't see how testing would help, the one I had that went CaCa didn't take a crap until it was 2.5 month old.

Congrats though man!!!
 

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Well, I got my replacement Vaporshark in the mail today.
Opened the box, fired the mod and... what do I see? This:


Yeah! I got upgraded. Now I have a SCROLLING garbled screen bug! It's so much better, the static garbled screen was so boring...

FUCK YOU EVOLV!!!
 

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Ah! My replacement Vaporshark is on its way. Kudos to Vaporshark and the Dutch distributor for a quick and painless service.

VS sure stand behind their products, and are willing to work things out with their customers: they only require a photo or video of the scrambled screen to immediately replace the unit no questions asked, and cover the costs of returning it. I almost feel bad for them for having to soak up the costs of Evolv's ineptitude, in order to maintain their reputation, when it's not really their fault.

Hopefully the new unit's DNA40 board will work flawlessly - although I'm not holding my breath...

You ask me its not evolv's fault..

As a company owner you make an enclosure, you place a RTR pcb in your enclosure, you thoroughly test it and ring it out before shipping it to market. Thus saving face with your customers and your pcb manufacturer. We wouldn't know who Evolv is in most instances of this transaction purchasing; do you know who designs a quarter of the items in your electronics and can call them out for its bad performance? Not so much. OMG freakin technojive company fuck you for the bad xxy processor in my bling cell phone. No the person who fault resides is the seller, they are not a reseller, they are the manufacturer.. Now for the manufacturers and modders its a whole different ball game F you Evolv is appropriate.. VS or any company manufacturing on the DNA40 chipset is solely at fault IMO The error issues were not hard to find, period...

Evolv has made the choice to be public to us but the biznus is in fault of whom encases and sells their pcb..

Dodge just recalled one of the baddest arse car USA has made to date does anyone know who made the fittings on the fuel line or milled to wrong specs such and such, hell no, and those bad parts could have cost lives, bet they got a good piece of a not so pleasant chat with Dodge.. But its not the fitting guys fault or whatever is wrong with the fuel leakage situation all fault lays in Dodge's court.. testing and ringing out a product they caught huge lawsuits before they reared and unfortunately they had merchandise on the street already lol..

Now for twilight zone: this technology is awesome big t has huge loss if this tech works as it should;
one freakin micron of silicon wafer on a chip produced for evolv is out of spec but unnoticed on any scope str8 off.
Big T WAR o_O
 

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You ask me its not evolv's fault..[...] We wouldn't know who Evolv is in most instances of this transaction purchasing; do you know who designs a quarter of the items in your electronics and can call them out for its bad performance? Not so much. [...] the person who fault resides is the seller, they are not a reseller, they are the manufacturer..

Wrong: when Intel released the infamous Pentium processor with the floating point bug, the blame was laid squarely on Intel, not on the PC manufacturers. People only blame the integrators when they don't release who made the components, because then they become the owner of the problem by default.

In this case, the fact that the new Vaporshark v2 has a DNA40 board inside is clearly meant to be a selling point (or rather was, as I think the presence of a DNA40 board in a mod is quickly becoming a turnoff). So when that component fails, and the rest of the mod is good, people aren't stupid and they know where to put the blame.

I've had two Vaporsharks with a faulty DNA40 board, and a Vaporflask with a faulty DNA40 board. I fully expect my upcoming replacement Vaporflask to have a faulty DNA40 board - only slightly less faulty, hopefully, so I can actually use the mod for more than 2 hours. Who do you expect me to blame? Vaporshark and Vaporflask? No: I blame Evolv of course, which is the only common denominator between all these mods.
 

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Well, I got my replacement Vaporshark in the mail today.
Opened the box, fired the mod and... what do I see? This:

Yeah! I got upgraded. Now I have a SCROLLING garbled screen bug! It's so much better, the static garbled screen was so boring...

FUCK YOU EVOLV!!!

For fucks sake. After @flr3b1rd's post about how out of 8000 units sold, this is rare, I was set to order one today. Then the thread watch email popped up. Fuck Evolv for a shit product, and fuck Vaporshark for not testing your unit. This clearly demonstrates VS grabs a unit, tosses it in a box, and ships it. I realize it would be difficult to test everyone of them, but damn, how can they afford not to at this point?
 

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For fucks sake. After @flr3b1rd's post about how out of 8000 units sold, this is rare, I was set to order one today.
There are a ton of perfectly good 30 - 150 watt mods on the market. You can add temp control yourself by keeping the wicks wet. The thing that makes this particular product "special" is really a gimmick.

Now, as for the garbled screen, I totally get why you don't want that (duh) but can you still use it with the screen messed up?
 

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Actually they do, as grout said it took 2 hours for the fuckup to materialize. It took mine 2 months, how long should they test them.
I do know for a fact that the RDNA 40; preorder sales number was in excess 8000 units. What sucks the mot is people like grout that don't live in the USA. And as much as I do love the board, had I lived outside of the continental US, I seriously don't know what I would do as far as buying one goes.

Sucks girout, sucks big time dude, sorry to see you're fighting with fuckers .
 

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I do know for a fact that the RDNA 40; preorder sales number was in excess 8000 units.
I see a lot of people reporting those numbers, but remember when the DNA 30 came out and you couldn't find them in stock anywhere? Now it could be that Evolv learned from that and boosted production before release, I don't know. It could also be that the modders were better prepared. I personally knew about 10 people that had or were trying to get the DNA 30 when it first came out, and I only know a few people who have the DNA 40, and those are just people I know of from forums. I don't personally know anyone that has one or wants one.
 

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[...]and fuck Vaporshark for not testing your unit. This clearly demonstrates VS grabs a unit, tosses it in a box, and ships it.[...]

I think VS honestly tests their products. This fault showed up for me after only 5 minutes of usage. For other people, it takes longer to appear. I believe I'm part of the unlucky sods with whom it appeared almost immediately.

But even if 5 minutes seem short for the end-user, can you imagine VS testing each and every rDNA box they produce during 5 full minutes? I don't think so! Realistically, it's a factory, not a testing lab. I can see them testing each unit for 10 seconds, but not 5 minutes.

The truth is, they shouldn't have to do anything beyond a cursory sanity check. They have to do extra testing because of Evolv. Evolv is 100% at fault here, not the mod makers trying to compensate for their shortcomings.
 
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[...]You can add temp control yourself by keeping the wicks wet. The thing that makes this particular product "special" is really a gimmick.

I can tell you've never tried TC :)

Now, as for the garbled screen, I totally get why you don't want that (duh) but can you still use it with the screen messed up?

Sure I can - unless I want to adjust temp or power, or check the battery when the screen is messed up. But that's not the point: the point is, when I pay top dollar for a device, I expect it to work as advertised. I'd be mildly pissed off if it happened in a $30 Chinese mod, but in a $189 device ($319 even for my Vaporflask), made in America yada yada... sorry, but that ain't gonna fly.
 

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I can tell you've never tried TC :)
Sure I have. I just dripped in my atomizer just now. Here, let me turn the voltage down a hair. Woot! I just controlled the temperature. Look at me!

Sure I can - unless I want to adjust temp or power, or check the battery when the screen is messed up. But that's not the point: the point is, when I pay top dollar for a device, I expect it to work as advertised. I'd be mildly pissed off if it happened in a $30 Chinese mod, but in a $189 device ($319 even for my Vaporflask), made in America yada yada... sorry, but that ain't gonna fly.

I fully understand that, and I would feel the same way. I was just curious on a much simpler level. My thought process was that, while the screen would irritate me, if I had a device that was that much of a better vape than anything else I owned, than who needs a screen as long as it still works without said display? I have a Conspiracy Mod which uses the OKL T20 chip and it has no screen, just a dial that you turn to raise or lower the voltage. I check my ohms on a meter, then put it on the mod and dial up or down until I find the vape I like. To see what voltage I am vaping at I would have to attach an inline meter. I'm not in love with that notion, but it vapes great so I love the mod.
 

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i am still waiting on my replacement, i am worried even more now
 

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i think the VS as a mod itself is awesome, seemed sturdy, compact, and magnetic battery door, and nice buttons.

sucks that Evolv has Fucked it up so bad
 

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Sure I have. I just dripped in my atomizer just now. Here, let me turn the voltage down a hair. Woot! I just controlled the temperature. Look at me!

Oh come on, don't be disingenuous. We've all used VW devices before TC came out. I know how to keep a wick wet, yet I and a shitload of other people think TC is better, for reasons that elude you because *you have not tried it*.

My thought process was that, while the screen would irritate me, if I had a device that was that much of a better vape than anything else I owned, than who needs a screen as long as it still works without said display?

Exactly! You hit the nail on the head. The reason why I have 2 overpriced DNA40 devices that piss the hell out of me, and still use them, is because TC is that much better!

I've always said Evolv is to be praised for coming up with TC, and they're even to be praised for the software implememtation of it in their firmware, which is flawless. It's all the rest - battery meter and screen issues - that have me hopping mad. But I put up with them as much as I can, and I go through the warranty claims rigmarole, because I really don't want to downgrade to an ordinary VW mod.
 

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Oh come on, don't be disingenuous. We've all used VW devices before TC came out. I know how to keep a wick wet, yet I and a shitload of other people think TC is better, for reasons that elude you because *you have not tried it*.
I'm not being disingenuous. It's very similar to the VV VW debate from a few years back. True, some variable watt devices allow more fine tuning than variable volt, but the general concept is the same. In order to change the watts without changing the resistance, I have to change the volts. Setting wattage ultimately changes voltage to achieve the desired watts. With minor variations (like fine tuning to a micro level) it is the same thing.

With temp control, you need a wire where the temperature can be easily checked and monitored. Once that is done, the device then turns itself on and off to keep the coil under that temperature. Sure, it would be tough to do that on my own, but what I can do is figure out what power level I need to set my device for a given resistance to get a vape temperature that I like, and just vape at that level.

Now I, for one, go with high power devices because (as crazy as this sounds) I like vaping with a lot of power. So the notion of a device turning off and on to control the temperature is backwards to me. If I wanted to keep my vape under X degrees I can do that with a wattage or voltage setting and building to a specific resistance. I don't need new wire or or a special chip to achieve that for me. The reasons you think it is better don't elude me. I haven't tried it because I don't vape the way you do, and prioritize the things you do in your vaping. Well, that and I don't like sending devices back to shippers over and over because they still don't work as advertised.
 

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I'm not being disingenuous. It's very similar to the VV VW debate from a few years back. True, some variable watt devices allow more fine tuning than variable volt, but the general concept is the same. In order to change the watts without changing the resistance, I have to change the volts. Setting wattage ultimately changes voltage to achieve the desired watts. With minor variations (like fine tuning to a micro level) it is the same thing.

With temp control, you need a wire where the temperature can be easily checked and monitored. Once that is done, the device then turns itself on and off to keep the coil under that temperature. Sure, it would be tough to do that on my own, but what I can do is figure out what power level I need to set my device for a given resistance to get a vape temperature that I like, and just vape at that level.

Now I, for one, go with high power devices because (as crazy as this sounds) I like vaping with a lot of power. So the notion of a device turning off and on to control the temperature is backwards to me. If I wanted to keep my vape under X degrees I can do that with a wattage or voltage setting and building to a specific resistance. I don't need new wire or or a special chip to achieve that for me. The reasons you think it is better don't elude me. I haven't tried it because I don't vape the way you do, and prioritize the things you do in your vaping. Well, that and I don't like sending devices back to shippers over and over because they still don't work as advertised.
It is totally different and almost a different style of vaping
Via ratio its like going from a 33.3hz zmax to a dc-dc provari.
It's a smoother vape, changed the flavor profile a hair, and ness you've used an actual TC mod, its hard to describe but some, like myself enjoy the difference it gives. I do still enjoy higher power at times, but as an adv. The TC is what I and others do prefer

Besides. Doesn't stop him from getting the mod in yoyo fashion.
I do wish you best giraut, I would say i'll pray you end up with a good flask, but I don't wanna get stick by lightning
 

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I have the older DNA 30 from last year , I got it while they ran their sale on them back in December, I have had no issues what so ever with mine.
 

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It's a smoother vape, changed the flavor profile a hair, and ness you've used an actual TC mod, its hard to describe but some, like myself enjoy the difference it gives.
And therein lies the biggest problems that Evolv created for themselves. In order to try it, I have to buy a mod that has all of these problems and is really underpowered for other reasonable vaping purposes. If it were 50 watt (good) or 80-100 (better) than I wouldn't mind forking out for it and I would then buy the nickel heads for a SubTank or something and see what was up with that. It really doesn't sound like my bag though as I hear the same thing from other forum peeps that use them. It's smoother, but I like the way the devices I have now vape, and it changes the flavor, but I like the flavors I have now. If it were a DNA 50 or 80 than it would probably be worth trying. At 40 watts, it would be something that got tossed in a box quickly if I didn't like the TC vaping, and I have no reason to suspect that I would.

It's rare that you get the chance to say this, but hopefully China will do this right when they bring their chip out. Give it real alternative power, so people can try it without getting stuck with a 40 watt tease mod.
 

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That's not so much an issue as you would think, I personally prefer 20-28 w per coil so the 40 is perfect for the way I vape- a single coil and with some dual coil builds its fine maxed out.. for my adv needs.
Granted when a dna50 or up is released I'm sire to get one. But, evidently while it is not personally beneficial for your style, it is for enough people to keep the lights on at Hana and vaporshark.

the bottom line is if you like the device you have now, its not for You of you're curious to try, its a beams mew technology that's bound to get more, refined and readily available. Like all of vaping... the mod that came out today will'll be obsolete in a few months.
Like this case, the sxmīni 'm' is scheduled for release this month-60w tc mod
 
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I have the older DNA 30 from last year , I got it while they ran their sale on them back in December, I have had no issues what so ever with mine.
My DNA 30 works great still, though I rarely use it anymore. My gf uses the SVD 2.0 with the DNA 20 for her all day vape and she's had it for around 6 months with no problems.
That's not so much an issue as you would think, I personally prefer 20-28 w per coil so the 40 is perfect for the way I vape- a single coil and with some dual coil builds its fine maxed out.. for my adv needs.
I'll give you major props for that post. You would be amazed at how many people don't get the whole watts to coil thing.

Anyhow, I rarely vape a single coil, but I actually am vaping one on a mech today. I'm at .28 ohms, so by the time I'm ready to change batteries I'm barely above 40 watts. It's not a terrible vape there, and I suppose I could get used to it, but I just don't want to. It would work okay for my Kayfuns, or even for my SubTank, but again I don't use those very often.
 

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My DNA 30 works great still, though I rarely use it anymore. My gf uses the SVD 2.0 with the DNA 20 for her all day vape and she's had it for around 6 months with no problems.

I'll give you major props for that post. You would be amazed at how many people don't get the whole watts to coil thing.

Anyhow, I rarely vape a single coil, but I actually am vaping one on a mech today. I'm at .28 ohms, so by the time I'm ready to change batteries I'm barely above 40 watts. It's not a terrible vape there, and I suppose I could get used to it, but I just don't want to. It would work okay for my Kayfuns, or even for my SubTank, but again I don't use those very often.
Yeah unfortunately a lot vapors that I encounter don't have a true understanding of electronic principals, I put the water through a hose explanation of ohm's law on ecf and it pissed people off becUae they didn't care about 'all that info' they just wanted to know how many 'ohm to push.'

But, that's where its gaping style, I use an RBA to drive and a single parallel build in a dripper at work. So for both 40wis more than ample, in the afternoon and evening i'll switch to a mechanical with a dual build or a 70w mod that tends to give me a perfect vape at around 50w. Makes me antsy for a dna50.
 

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But, that's where its gaping style, I use an RBA to drive and a single parallel build in a dripper at work. So for both 40wis more than ample, in the afternoon and evening i'll switch to a mechanical with a dual build or a 70w mod that tends to give me a perfect vape at around 50w. Makes me antsy for a dna50.
I use a dripper when I'm driving, but I have a Reo. Now if someone really wanted to take my money they could build a dual 18650 100 watt reo and I would pay pretty much whatever they were charging. lol And I don't care if it's the DNA chip or the OKL T20 or Raptor. I'd pretty much take it however I could get it.
 

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I use a dripper when I'm driving, but I have a Reo. Now if someone really wanted to take my money they could build a dual 18650 100 watt reo and I would pay pretty much whatever they were charging. lol And I don't care if it's the DNA chip or the OKL T20 or Raptor. I'd pretty much take it however I could get it.
That wouldn't be difficult to build if someone were so inclined,
a triple batter box with a bottom feed conversion and a chip.

I say that but it'm to lazy build the DNA/reo lol
 

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I think VS honestly tests their products. This fault showed up for me after only 5 minutes of usage. For other people, it takes longer to appear. I believe I'm part of the unlucky sods with whom it appeared almost immediately.

But even if 5 minutes seem short for the end-user, can you imagine VS testing each and every rDNA box they produce during 5 full minutes? I don't think so! Realistically, it's a factory, not a testing lab. I can see them testing each unit for 10 seconds, but not 5 minutes.

The truth is, they shouldn't have to do anything beyond a cursory sanity check. They have to do extra testing because of Evolv. Evolv is 100% at fault here, not the mod makers trying to compensate for their shortcomings.

I hear ya man, but one would think Vaporshark would consider, "This guy is in another country, and we know from numerous returns that these bugs can potentially surface within minutes of use. Lets test this one for the afternoon so we don't have to eat the cost of 2 round trip shipping charges to Europe and have to deal with an aggravated customer for the second time"

Just sounds to me like they tossed one in a box and sent it off. But who knows. Maybe 3rd time will be a charm !!
 

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Wrong: when Intel released the infamous Pentium processor with the floating point bug, the blame was laid squarely on Intel, not on the PC manufacturers. People only blame the integrators when they don't release who made the components, because then they become the owner of the problem by default.

In this case, the fact that the new Vaporshark v2 has a DNA40 board inside is clearly meant to be a selling point (or rather was, as I think the presence of a DNA40 board in a mod is quickly becoming a turnoff). So when that component fails, and the rest of the mod is good, people aren't stupid and they know where to put the blame.

I've had two Vaporsharks with a faulty DNA40 board, and a Vaporflask with a faulty DNA40 board. I fully expect my upcoming replacement Vaporflask to have a faulty DNA40 board - only slightly less faulty, hopefully, so I can actually use the mod for more than 2 hours. Who do you expect me to blame? Vaporshark and Vaporflask? No: I blame Evolv of course, which is the only common denominator between all these mods.

So Evolv is to blame yes sir, but as a manufacturer your product hits the streets not Evolv's. The Corvette ZR1 has a Mercury engine in it, it's one of the most bulletproof and powerful engines in corvette history but yet its still GM's car regardless of who put the heart in it. Are they Unqualified Manufacturers who relied on Evolv's good name to sell a faulty product at huge incomes. Yeah, like they did not know it was faulty is my postings meaning you been jacked jack...

The guy who bought one and did not get it home :p and it faulted at the resellers (vcct) was one of the lucky ones..
 

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On a side note, Rip Trippers just did a review of the rDNA 40. Guess what? Not a peep about the DNA40 issues. He's a big fan of the DNA40 chip, and being in the business he's in, he can't possibly not know about them - even if his own rDNA 40 doesn't show any fault. Yet... not a word.

Some impartial reviewer... If that doesn't show you these Youtube reviewers' opinions are, if not biased, at least completely useless to make a purchase decision, nothing will.
 

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Rip should stick to building
 

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If I was a reviewer I would stay ten feet away from a dna40, yes sir he has to know.. Manufacturers need to pull back each unit sold from those who will and those who do not care to send it back and get it correct, release a statement and then reissue them; has been SOP of any recalls. It's the unfortunates price of doing biznus. Can be great on taxes tho lol but not if its your only product lol...

If it faults on Rip will rip em he likes the dramatically so yeah, just wait, but hopefully its fixed lol...

I watched Richard Ng review of his rdna and while reviewing it, it worked fine but he did have issues previous and there took a picture of the garbled screen to show us. He found it not to bad to remove the batts and reset it, but like you said, you paid good money to not have to do that..
 

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Ah! My replacement Vaporshark is on its way. Kudos to Vaporshark and the Dutch distributor for a quick and painless service.

VS sure stand behind their products, and are willing to work things out with their customers: they only require a photo or video of the scrambled screen to immediately replace the unit no questions asked, and cover the costs of returning it. I almost feel bad for them for having to soak up the costs of Evolv's ineptitude, in order to maintain their reputation, when it's not really their fault.

Hopefully the new unit's DNA40 board will work flawlessly - although I'm not holding my breath...

I hope it works with out issues, I'm pretty sure Evolv is getting hit in the wallet with manufacturers hammering on prices due to the bad production runs.
 

trlrtrash13

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@trlrtrash13 , you may find this interesting........

the rest of you guys and gals might too.

http://www.eciggity.com/ipv4-100-watt-box-mod/

ipv4 100W will now have temp control.......yihi chip for less than $100

ETA:

looks like the temp control wont come until the upgrade in early april
Now that's what I'm talking about right there. If Evolv had done this I'd be willing to pay legit prices for the 100 watt, but they left it up to China so I might actually pick one of these up and give it a shot one of these days. Thanks for the heads up.
 
Where can I get a good DNA 40 Mod w/ Temperature Control clone? I had one in my cart at Fasttech. Tried to purchase it today and they removed them all from there website.
 

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How odd. I have a Paul Marek, Al Mood, Hana Mini, Marhaen, and a Bap....all with Evolv DNA 40 or 30 boards, and they work perfectly. Very strange.
 

MrFixIt

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I read this whole thread and evolv had to know this was going to happen with these chips. In testing this screen issue or issues should have come up at evolv. I'm leaning towards a scenario that evolv knew it but shipped them anyway under pressure from mod makers hoping to be able to fix the problem before the mods were released. Now that scenario gives evolv the benefit of the doubt. The other scenario is not so it would be evolv knew that these boards would do this and sold them anyway. Either way it should not be occurring period. TC is not new there are many types of vaporizers out that have it, they just aren't used for vaping e liquid. Now make one that doesn't limit you to one type of wire then you got innovation and something to brag about.
 

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I still think the best TC is turning down the wattage...but thats just me.
 

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Hahahahah^^^that's funny
Was just talking about this to Someone,
 

Giraut

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I've finally found a useful purpose for my buggy DNA40 device: I was sitting in a meeting at my company, discussing a typical software project that's being carried out the wrong way - design by committee, unreasonable schedule, under budget... the lot.

At some point, the project lead was arguing that, yes, we don't have specs or test plans, but we need to get coding because we're running late. I kept repeating that I won't sign the design review without them, but he was adamant he didn't have a choice and he'd forge ahead anyway.

That's when I had a genius idea: I picked up my mod, clicked on the go-go button and - lucky me - I got a bad case of scrambled screen rightaway. I showed the screen to the guy and his colleagues, and told him: "Look, this is a commercial product that's on the market right now. THIS is what people who work like you produce. I won't stand for our product doing that sort of shit. YOU WRITE YOUR SPECS AND TEST PLANS, else I'll show my little device to the program manager."

Going by the face he pulled, I think the message got across :)
 

Mykline

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I've finally found a useful purpose for my buggy DNA40 device: I was sitting in a meeting at my company, discussing a typical software project that's being carried out the wrong way - design by committee, unreasonable schedule, under budget... the lot.

At some point, the project lead was arguing that, yes, we don't have specs or test plans, but we need to get coding because we're running late. I kept repeating that I won't sign the design review without them, but he was adamant he didn't have a choice and he'd forge ahead anyway.

That's when I had a genius idea: I picked up my mod, clicked on the go-go button and - lucky me - I got a bad case of scrambled screen rightaway. I showed the screen to the guy and his colleagues, and told him: "Look, this is a commercial product that's on the market right now. THIS is what people who work like you produce. I won't stand for our product doing that sort of shit. YOU WRITE YOUR SPECS AND TEST PLANS, else I'll show my little device to the program manager."

Going by the face he pulled, I think the message got across :)
Reminds me of when the government rolled out of their health care Web site. Coders cut and pasted code and just REM stuff out rather then correctly coding it. Was lack of clear guidance (Specs) and proper testing.
 

Giraut

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I hesitate to post this, just in case the mere act of posting good news draws bad luck on me... I'm normally a rational type of person, but with the DNA40, one is always at the mercy of bad mojo.

So, it seems I finally have a fully working DNA40 device in my hands. Long story short, after a lot of back-and-forths between Vaporflask, the local distributor and my lawyer, I finally received a brand-new Vapor Flask that I've been vaping on for 2 solid days without battery meter or garbled screen issues. Woohoo!

I haven't been able to enjoy my FV since February. Considering I got it at the end of December, that translates into 2 months of usage out of 6 months. Not to mention, I didn't need the headaches to get it (not) fixed / replaced. Not a great purchase :(

How long it'll keep working properly is anyone's guess. I wouldn't be surprised if it craps out on me in two months time. But for the moment, I have an enjoyable DNA40 device - my first in 5 DNA40 devices in total.

Wish me luck :)
 

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