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I saw vapor joes add for the artic dolphin 50watt modd. Ive tried to contact the seller many times and got no response. then i find out that 7 more people got screwed also.it was a presale and i lost 100 bucks.that sucks.i think there is one more 4 sale.DONT BUY IT ITS A SCAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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That really sucks dude!

And thanks for the warning as well.

Have you contacted PayPal or your Credit Card Company yet?
 

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Thanks Moe:)

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  • DID NOT RECEIVE ANYTHING. DO NOT BUY FROM THIS PERSON! THIS IS A SHAM.
    Apr 07, 2015
  • No communication no product get refund from PayPal asap
    Apr 04, 2015
  • Didn't receive item. Never heard from seller. Had to open a case for This seller
    Apr 03, 2015
  • Will not respond to anything have sent multiple messages never had one response
    Mar 30, 2015
  • Seller is awesome!!! First to have newest models listed on ebay. Thank you
    Mar 30, 2015
 

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i sorry you got ripped off.. I hope paypal/ebay can resolve this for you.. :(
 

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Shipping will be within the first week in April (Apr-6 - Apr 13)

You have 45 days from the date of purchase to open a case.

This is obviously a pre-sale so the seller is at the mercy of China & customs.

I would wait 35 days or so before I even think about opening a case because a bunch of buyers bugging out and opening cases WAY TOO EARLY will lock his PayPal and then he won't be able to even pay the vendor or pay to print labels with tracking info through PayPal.

So by opening a case before 35 to 40 days you are not only fucking everybody else who is waiting patiently but you are fucking yourself too
And you are 100% fucking the seller by leaving negative feedback and opening a case BEFORE the date he told you he was shipping it on AND the date YOU agreed to when you READ the description and hit "BUY IT NOW"


Here is the exact description copy/pasted from the sale:

Please Note: This is a pre-sale: (between March 6-12) Pre Order and Save!!!
NEWEST 50 WATT DEVICE WITH TEMPERATURE CONTROL OUT NOW!!!

Details of ATD 50w :
Value of resistance: 0.1-2.5 Ω
Input voltage: 3.3V-4.3V/30A
Output voltage: 1V-9V
Adjustable wattage:7-50W Frequency: 1W each time
Adjustable temperature: 100-300 °C 200-600 °F
Set temperature and real-time temperature displayed
Temperature alarm of ordinary thermal fuse: Support
USB port/Cable 1*18650 Battery (NO BATTERY OR ATOMIZER INCLUDED) WE RECOMMEND THE SONY VTC5

Shipping will be within the first week in April (Apr-6 - Apr 13)


^^^ What part about the last sentence did you not understand?^^^
 
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Shipping will be within the first week in April (Apr-6 - Apr 13)

You have 45 days from the date of purchase to open a case.

This is obviously a pre-sale so the seller is at the mercy of China & customs.

I would wait 35 days or so before I even think about opening a case because a bunch of sellers bugging out and opening cases WAY TO EARLY will lock his PayPal and then he won't be able to even pay the vendor or pay to print labels with tracking info through PayPal.

So by opening a case before 35 to 40 days you are not only fucking everybody else who is waiting patiently but you are fucking yourself too
And you are 100% fucking the seller be leaving negative feedback and opening a case BEFORE the date he told you he was shipping it on AND the date YOU agreed to when you READ the description and hit "BUY IT NOW"


Here is the exact description copy/pasted from the sale:

Please Note: This is a pre-sale: (between March 6-12) Pre Order and Save!!!
NEWEST 50 WATT DEVICE WITH TEMPERATURE CONTROL OUT NOW!!!

Details of ATD 50w :
Value of resistance: 0.1-2.5 Ω
Input voltage: 3.3V-4.3V/30A
Output voltage: 1V-9V
Adjustable wattage:7-50W Frequency: 1W each time
Adjustable temperature: 100-300 °C 200-600 °F
Set temperature and real-time temperature displayed
Temperature alarm of ordinary thermal fuse: Support
USB port/Cable 1*18650 Battery (NO BATTERY OR ATOMIZER INCLUDED) WE RECOMMEND THE SONY VTC5

Shipping will be within the first week in April (Apr-6 - Apr 13)


^^^ What part about the last sentence did you not understand?^^^


ahhh a presale.. yeps hang in.. maybe send him a note asking whats up?
 

anthony aiello

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I saw vapor joes add for the artic dolphin 50watt modd. Ive tried to contact the seller many times and got no response. then i find out that 7 more people got screwed also.it was a presale and i lost 100 bucks.that sucks.i think there is one more 4 sale.DONT BUY IT ITS A SCAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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i get it its a presale ive tried to contact the seller numerous times and just figured he was busy and not to worry.Then I find out that a lot of other buyers said the same thing. So where the fuck is this guy???????????????? Im not putting the blame on anyone but myself and that fucking seller. so if he is on the up and up where is he.He hasnt checked his email in about a month. I dont think so
 

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i get it its a presale ive tried to contact the seller numerous times and just figured he was busy and not to worry.Then I find out that a lot of other buyers said the same thing. So where the fuck is this guy???????????????? Im not putting the blame on anyone but myself and that fucking seller. so if he is on the up and up where is he.He hasnt checked his email in about a month. I dont think so
I understand your frustration , I really do, and folks here have been posting advise for you, I really hope you hear from this guy, but like Joe posted, you have the advantage to use Ebay's buyer protection option, and if all else fails, you have a way to act on it.
 

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anyone with less than about 99% rating, I just keep walking anyway. On ebay for 1 year, virtually all his feedbacks are him buying (except for all the negatives), not selling, 75% rating, yeah, I wouldn't touch that with your ten foot pole (not to mention my own)
 

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Clicking on the feedback link Whiskey posted, it looks like dude sold 3 of 'em and only shipped one.
It also shows fb from an SMY buyer who also didn't get their item.

My question is why would you buy from someone who has such horrible feedback?
Honestly OP, it looks like this one is on you.

The feedback wasn't there when he bought it?

Seriously wait 44 days from date of purchase THEN open a case.

You will get your money back 100% of the time.

It isn't like he western unioned the guy the money.
It's fucking eBay/PayPal you are protected for 44 days.
 

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anyone with less than about 99% rating, I just keep walking anyway. On ebay for 1 year, virtually all his feedbacks are him buying (except for all the negatives), not selling, 75% rating, yeah, I wouldn't touch that with your ten foot pole (not to mention my own)
I feel the same way. If not up at 99% I don't buy. Can't afford to throw money away. Plus read feed back. Knock on wood I haven't been ripped off yet. And I have bought a lot of different things on ebay.
 

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Im not gonna report anything for a while i just didnt want anyone else losing money. I hope im wrong i really do.but when i saw the others that tried to contact this guy i figured im fucked.And if i am lesson learned.I too have been very lucky with my purchases.till now.Anyway thanks for the posts I appreciate it
 

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You should definitely open a case if it has been 43 or 44 days since you hit buy it now.
If you go to your purchase history and you will see the exact date of purchase.
Make sure you mark the 43/44 day deadline on your calendar so your do not forget.
Then if you haven't at least received tracking information of a moving package your can open a case with eBay. The good part is you can keep the case open if the seller is still sending the package.
Do not let the guy get away with talking your money.
I can help talk you through it since I sell and buy on eBay often I know how the process works.
 
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Only on ebay for a little over a year, and not even 20 total feedbacks yet (including the recent negatives).
I wouldn't trust him for anything expensive and definitely not a preorder.

Easy to get scammed on ebay and easy to have something slip out of place and not be covered by the *very specific* guidelines for buyer protection. Although, I will admit its been a few years since I was big into using ebay so things may have changed, but I doubt for the better given the greed of big companies in this country
 

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Only on ebay for a little over a year, and not even 20 total feedbacks yet (including the recent negatives).
I wouldn't trust him for anything expensive and definitely not a preorder.

Easy to get scammed on ebay and easy to have something slip out of place and not be covered by the *very specific* guidelines for buyer protection. Although, I will admit its been a few years since I was big into using ebay so things may have changed, but I doubt for the better given the greed of big companies in this country

As long as it has been within 45 days then they are covered.
The only way it could get shitty is if the guy mailed out a package full of rocks or something to prove he has a package that says delivered.
Then you would have to appeal the case.
I was buying rare CD's from a guy in China for $10 shipped and selling them for $50 a couple years back.
It just so happened that I had bought the same CD twice 2 months apart and the second one never showed up so i opened a case.
The guy uploaded the tracking info from the first CD and eBay sided with him.

I had to appeal the case and an actual human checked into it and i was able to prove that the tracking number he uploaded was delivered to my house a full month BEFORE I won the CD in question.
They sided with me and i got refunded.

I wish he wouldn't have screwed me because I was making $400 a month off of him for about 6 months steady.
Then out of nowhere he just up and screwed a bunch of people.
 

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Thanx 4 the advice 5150 I too hardly ever use ebay I mostly buy straight from the vendor and there are a lot of good ones out there As for BIGSHOG the prick that stole from me and 49 other hard working people. Hurry up and spend that money cause scumbags like you always get caught.Your future is bright. Bright orange jumpsuit. Good luck in prison
 

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I know I wish i really had one coming they look pretty cool


That link does say "delayed by manufacturer will ship April 20th".
The problem is that the eBay guy started his pre order mid March.
Also by him not responding to messages it makes it seem way more sketchy.

You should open a case with eBay. Just click "I never thought received my item" and the eBay process will end in your favor.

It will take about a week because they give the seller a chance to respond (which he won't) then they side in your favor and return the funds to your PayPal account.

Have you opened a case yet?
 

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Actually his add said it would ship btween the 6th and the 13th. I was gonna wait until tomorrow so they cant say that Im too early.
 

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Actually his add said it would ship btween the 6th and the 13th. I was gonna wait until tomorrow so they cant say that Im too early.

Good idea. If you don't get a tracking number by then you should go ahead and get your money back.
I have been wanting to try out temperature control myself but without paying authentic mod prices.
I went with this Vaporflask clone for $65.00:

http://focalecig.com/Product/-Ships...ected-40W-Clone-Mod-by-Waidea-TimeBlack-14292

It ships from their US warehouse.
 

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That looks like a pretty sweet deal. Ive had my eye on that also.I like the shape of it. I got a luxyoun 150 watt dragon mod 2 weeks ago the V2 I bought it from Captain Kanger. I ordered it on friday and got it on monday. Really good service.Yea your right who needs anything above 40 watts I just liked the style and make of it.Im using the kanger sub mini at about 36 to 38 watts its a nice vape. Im hooked on Muffcake by steamfactory its fuckin good juice just expensive.
 

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I run my drippers high maybe between 80 to 110 watts max.

I have 2 different hammond boxes with dual 18650's and 120 watt Naos Raptor chips.

The raptor is a little different than a regular regulated mod.
It doesn't have the screen and it doesn't check for ohms so you have to build to it's specs.
It has a max of 20 amps and fires to 6 volts so you need to do the math:

http://www.onlineconversion.com/ohms_law.htm

6 Volts
20 Amps
120 Watts
0.3 ohms

So when I build I usually shoot for 0.35 ohms.
You can get an idea of how many wraps you need at what gauge and size here:

http://coiltoy.ermeso.com/

I have gotten really good at it through trial and error so I don't need any of that stuff but I wish I knew about it when I started out that way I could have avoided most of the "error" part of the trial & error;)

So at 6 volts & 0.35 ohms i'm drawing 17 amps and 102 watts.
That is the sweet spot for me with the Naos Raptor chip box mods.

I have one really nice one that has a voltage readout with a switch so I can see how much life my 2 batteries has.
Fresh ones say 8.4 volts ((2 X 4.2 volt 18650's) and I recharge by 7 volts (3.5 volts X 2)
When I flip the switch it tells me how many volts it puts out when it's firing.
It usually reads between 6 volts & 5.8 Volts all the way up.

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Thats a bad ass set up!!! I wish I had the patience with the rebuildable atomizers and drippers. this V2 mod is my 1st parallel 18650 set up. it beats changing batteries every few hours Personal info removed by staff my email
 
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well i really got fucked not only did this scumbag get away with ripping all of us off. I put this sale on my x wifes account and that slut and this scamming motherfucker of a vendor are both gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hope you both rot in hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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well i really got fucked not only did this scumbag get away with ripping all of us off. I put this sale on my x wifes account and that slut and this scamming motherfucker of a vendor are both gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hope you both rot in hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


At least your ex got stuck with the bill???

Let me guess she wants half of EVERYTHING? :mad:
 

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