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conanthewarrior

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Hi people, I already have a sigelei with a nautilus, but on the weekend I am treating myself to a RTA and RDA. I just don't know wether to get the kanger or the aspire? Any help would be much appreciated.
 

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I gotta tell you that even though I have been using it for less than 24 hours, I am really digging on the Kanger Subtank Mini.

Superb flavor and vapor production,

And yes before you ask, I have been using it on my Sigelei 30 Watt Mini and it does great!

But damn is it a E-Liquid whore.

Goes through liquid like a politician goes through our tax dollars!
 

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If your wanting to produce large clouds, I think the Atlantis is the way to go. The Atlantis heads are relatively easy to rebuild but overall the kanger subtank is maybe just a bit better quality and has more options, both are great tanks but yea, as RJ said both will suck the juice, specially if your using the .5ohm heads.
 

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Ahh i'm really confused, why does the atlantis offer bigger clouds? Can you build better coils, or is it airflow? I am also getting an RDA if I want to cloud chase more :)
 

conanthewarrior

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I gotta tell you that even though I have been using it for less than 24 hours, I am really digging on the Kanger Subtank Mini.

Superb flavor and vapor production,

And yes before you ask, I have been using it on my Sigelei 30 Watt Mini and it does great!

But damn is it a E-Liquid whore.

Goes through liquid like a politician goes through our tax dollars!
I do like the fact it works well on the Sigelei, what are clouds like?
 

conanthewarrior

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erm, I have looked at the atlantis rebuild and it looks like my nautilus, how I rebuilt for that :s wierd RTA, think it will be the subtank if the rebuildable bit looks like that.
 

conanthewarrior

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Duh, its not a rebuildable. Subtank mini it is then, along with an RDA, Think I am going to get a trident clone.
 

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you CAN rebuild the Atlantis coils. I even did a tutorial on it.


my .6ohm twisted 26g rebuilt atlantis coil.
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It hits better than the stock coils, IMO. and I've wicked it with koh gen do.
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let me explain a bit further, the atlantis coils are not "made to be rebuilt" but they are very easy to do so if one wanted with just some cotton and kanthal.. The kanger subtank has more options, its got a coil head that's meant to be rebuilt and a coils that you can purchase already built maybe that would be the better way for you to go since your planning on getting a dripping RDA anyways, hope this helps.
 

conanthewarrior

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I've rebuilt my nautilus coils, so I know it can be done, but I want a tank thats actually 'designed' to be rebuilt, like the subtank mini. And I agree Tim, the subtank is actually meant to be rebuilt, so thats why I'l go for it. I made a mistake thinking the atlantis was also a RTA, I know you CAN rebuild for them, but your not 'meant to' if you get what I mean.
 

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BTW I see mention of Koh gen do, I think that was got I got a natural cotton? What is the difference between it and normal cotton?
 

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not a whole heck of a lot. Koh Gen is a lot more expensive. You want unbleached organic cotton. the cotton balls you can get at the pharmacy are fine but I prefer koh gen do pads, they are Japanese cotton pads and they wick just a little better IMO because all the threads in the pad go in the same direction acting kinda like a straw but some argue if its really worth the money. Cotton balls work just fine. You just want to make sure that you unroll the cotton ball. Pull off a pinch and twist up one end into a point. pull that through the coil and then I snip the piece that I twisted up off, there's oils in your skin and vaping oil of any kind is bad. You want the cotton to slide back and forth in the coil but be snug. Hope this helps.
 
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conanthewarrior

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not a whole heck of a lot. Koh Gen is a lot more expensive. You want unbleached organic cotton. the cotton balls you can get at the pharmacy are fine but I prefer koh gen doh pads, they are Japanese cotton pads and they wick just a little better IMO because all the threads in the pad go in the same direction acting kinda like a straw but some argue if its really worth the money. Cotton balls work just fine. You just want to make sure that you unroll the cotton ball. Pull off a pinch and twist up one end into a point. pull that through the coil and then I snip the piece that I twisted up off, there's oils in your skin and vaping oil of any kind is bad. You want the cotton to slide back and forth in the coil but be snug. Hope this helps.
Hang on, I can use the cotton balls my mum buys for her face as a wick? Ah balls I didn't even need to buy any lol, but If its better I suppose it is worth it.
 

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IMHO, the Subtank puts out a lot of clouds.

That being said, I am not the best person to ask as all I care about is flavor and could not give a fig about how big a cloud I can generate with my gear.
 

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Personally I think the Atlantis has better flavor and puts out fine vapor, but the subtank has the build option which may be nice. My friend has one and is totally happy, I tend to have horrible luck with kanger products but I'm all about flavor :p


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conanthewarrior

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IMHO, the Subtank puts out a lot of clouds.

That being said, I am not the best person to ask as all I care about is flavor and could not give a fig about how big a cloud I can generate with my gear.
Uncle RJ, my main concern is flavour, second is clouds. If I can make some pretty clouds while getting some flavour, even better.
 

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Have a look at the clouds I was blowing over 3 years ago.
Personally I think the Atlantis has better flavor and puts out fine vapor, but the subtank has the build option which may be nice. My friend has one and is totally happy, I tend to have horrible luck with kanger products but I'm all about flavor :p
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I've been a kanger fan since the T2. About 3-4 years now....

lol, check out the clouds I was blowing about 4 years ago when the T2 came out. Now, these were serious clouds in them days. lmao.
Might wanna check your speakers, the intro is a little loud. I apologize for that.
 

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Have a look at the clouds I was blowing over 3 years ago.



I've been a kanger fan since the T2. About 3-4 years now....

Seems like that's how it goes haha, I wish I had more luck with them oh well


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I like the Atlantis. Flavor is awesome! I too like flavor above clouds...but I don't mind the clouds. I was doing 3.7v but resistance was reading .6 or .7 for a .5 coil so I set it to 25w and that's what I vape at now.
 
Hang on, I can use the cotton balls my mum buys for her face as a wick? Ah balls I didn't even need to buy any lol, but If its better I suppose it is worth it.
No. Not the the cotton balls your ma buys. Key words are organic un bleached. I haven't used the Atlantis but am in love with my Kanger mini. The rba it comes with is simple, and I've seen rebuilds on the occ's as well. I use it on both my istick 50, and my unregulated box. I find I get better flavor with less air, but a good mix of flavor/vapor with the two holes.
 

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I have both the Atlantis and the Kanger sub tank. I like the Kanger way better. I have the original Atlantis though not the second version. I think the Atlantis 2 has a rebuildable deck and people seem to like it. JMHO go with the Kanger.
 

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No. Not the the cotton balls your ma buys. Key words are organic un bleached.<snip>.

Question - Every cotton I've bought says both 'organic' and 'whitened with hydrogen peroxide'. I thought that was ok, that 'regular' cotton balls are whitened with 'bleach' but that 'hydrogen peroxide' was fine. Am I wrong??
 

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Question - Every cotton I've bought says both 'organic' and 'whitened with hydrogen peroxide'. I thought that was ok, that 'regular' cotton balls are whitened with 'bleach' but that 'hydrogen peroxide' was fine. Am I wrong??

If they don't make you sick then great, but really you want cotton that is unbleached, or unwhitened with anything and organic. You can find that if you search the web for them...some stores will even ship them from online...I can't remember if it's CVS or Rite Aid, and don't quote me but I think it's one of those two. I made the mistake of just buying plain cotton balls when I first started and learned the hard way. Personally, even though most consider it gimicky like Go Ken Do, I love Cotton Bacon...that little 6 dollar bag lasts me a couple months, I bought four of them last July and I am on my third now. True, I don't change my cotton out till it's past dead on my drippers (except for my Kayfun because if I don't change that every few days the taste is horrible,) but the Bacon is the easiest stuff to shape and mold I've ever worked with and it's ready to go out the pack, just take a piece off of a strip and smooth the fibers out straight and cut in half and you've got two wicks ready to go. :) That's just my two cents, I'm completely happy to let others disagree with me, it's all about what works best for you and not what I tell you does :)
 

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If they don't make you sick then great, but really you want cotton that is unbleached, or unwhitened with anything and organic. You can find that if you search the web for them...some stores will even ship them from online...I can't remember if it's CVS or Rite Aid, and don't quote me but I think it's one of those two. I made the mistake of just buying plain cotton balls when I first started and learned the hard way. Personally, even though most consider it gimicky like Go Ken Do, I love Cotton Bacon...that little 6 dollar bag lasts me a couple months, I bought four of them last July and I am on my third now. True, I don't change my cotton out till it's past dead on my drippers (except for my Kayfun because if I don't change that every few days the taste is horrible,) but the Bacon is the easiest stuff to shape and mold I've ever worked with and it's ready to go out the pack, just take a piece off of a strip and smooth the fibers out straight and cut in half and you've got two wicks ready to go. :) That's just my two cents, I'm completely happy to let others disagree with me, it's all about what works best for you and not what I tell you does :)
I haven't tried bacon yet but my preferred pad is white pony.it's the cleanest tasting pad cotton so far.
for fluff I prefer reyon but organic still has its uses.;)
 

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If they don't make you sick then great, but really you want cotton that is unbleached, or unwhitened with anything and organic. You can find that if you search the web for them...some stores will even ship them from online...I can't remember if it's CVS or Rite Aid, and don't quote me but I think it's one of those two.<snip>

Actually that's where I got the organic cotton I have - both CVS and Rite Aid (my two local drug stores). But if you look closely at the packages, they both say (in tiny little hard-to-read letters on the back) 'whitened with hydrogen peroxide'. Heck, I thought that was the right stuff - they didn't have any that were unbleached. (Actually, the local CVS has stopped carrying the organic cotton totally which I thought was weird.)
 

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Actually that's where I got the organic cotton I have - both CVS and Rite Aid (my two local drug stores). But if you look closely at the packages, they both say (in tiny little hard-to-read letters on the back) 'whitened with hydrogen peroxide'. Heck, I thought that was the right stuff - they didn't have any that were unbleached. (Actually, the local CVS has stopped carrying the organic cotton totally which I thought was weird.)

I think you're right and that is the stuff I am thinking of and I am sorry. It was recommended to me a long time ago and I never went that route that's why I said don't quote me on it but I thought it was one of the two. Like I have said before....I fell in love with Cotton Bacon, I don't care what anyone says, that little bag of cotton is worth every penny...I have a huge box of Go Ken Do that I've used less than three sheets out of since I got it last year and one of those was to give to a new vapor to have some good cotton to wick a dripper I sold to him and taught him how to build. I honestly don't know if vaping cotton that has been whitened with peroxide is really all that bad or is just as bad as cotton...I know you can use it for mouth wash but you're not supposed to swallow it so that is what my "spider sense" is telling me to stay away from it for. Sorry I was no help. I know there are unbleache/whitened organic cotton balls out there....for lack of a better word (please forgive me,) but the modern day tree huggers wouldn't allow the world to turn these days without a "everything free" version of everything (which is an oxymoron I know but it's still true somehow :) ) So I am not sure where to get them but I know they're out there....I got some cheese cloth for stainless steel mesh builds a long time ago, almost two years, and the stuff is hidden in a storage box still not found from when I moved last year :) If I can find the cheese cloth I can find the website I bought it from...they have to have the cotton balls the same way...it wouldn't make sense not too :)
 

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I haven't tried bacon yet but my preferred pad is white pony.it's the cleanest tasting pad cotton so far.
for fluff I prefer reyon but organic still has its uses.;)

Hey, that's great :) I have said many times before vaping is a very personal journey, it's all about what you like best, not what I think you should like. If you like rayon or cellucotton over organic that that's awesome. I swore by ekowool and Ready X Wick for months, actually the first 7 months I was building because I was afraid of drying out my wick and catching it on fire with cotton. Then one day I just decided to try it for the hell of it and see what I was missing...and I lit a cotton ball on fire :D after that I got over my fear, but I didn't like cotton balls, I had just bought regular generic organic cotton balls not knowing better because I never used cotton I didn't know anything about it....then, like with everything else vaping, I started doing my research...and that led me to Go Ken Do because of all the rave reviews...but it was sold out everywhere for weeks and weeks...so while I was waiting for it to come back in stock and my order to arrive I bought some Cotton Bacon because it was pre cleaned and all the fibers were already lined up for the most part,,,,you just tear some off a "bacon strip" and smooth out to get the stragglers smoothed out, cut it in half and you've got two wicks ready for twist and wicking into a coil...couldn't be easier and the fact it's already sterile was a big plus since I hate boiling anything. I can barely cook Ramon on a stove much let alone know how to boil cotton right....so I got some Go Ken Do finally and compared the two and although both work really well...I just think the Bacon is easier to work with, has less of that "clean cotton" taste, and you can make a small wick like for a protank 2 coil head much easier since you don't have to cut it into strips, just peel a sliver off and smooth.

Don't get me wrong, I still love my Ready X and ekowool...I use them mainly these days for making custom protank 2/protank mini 2 coil heads i design for my friends that want to get into vaping to give them a much better experience than they would get off a standard evod or protank coil...or if I am going to be test driving a bunch of liquids to see which one I like best to try before I buy a new flavor I'll use a RDA build with Ready X because it's so easy to dry burn the flavor out and start fresh than having to go threw a shitload of cotton and change my wick for every flavor but I am known for using my cotton in my drippers probably for a good week after it should have been changed just because the bacon holds the flavor well and if I don't singe it it will last me a week of casual after work vaping since I have five or six drippers going at any one time...if I had just one I'm sure i'd have to rewick every day....kind of a chain vapor like that :D

But,,,,now that I've gone way way off track, my point is...if it's what works best for you than go with it. I'll stick to my bacon and you'll stick to your rayon and we'll both be happy...doesn't mean you can't try it someday, doesn't mean I am telling you to either....isn't vaping great like that? :D
 

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sub tank....for the love of god you will not regret it

I have to agree with PoorLittleBoy. The Subtank (both full and mini) have one huge advantage over the Atlantis. Obviously if you're interested in building your own coils, the RDA deck with the Subtank is a clear advantage. But the biggest thing to me is that the standard coils are so easy to both rewick and rebuild. Even I do it and I'm not into building coils at all. You need maybe five coils and you can just rewick/rebuild them over and over.
 

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I like how it's easier to rebuild the Kanger heads for sure, Kanger gear has always been easy to rebuild and that's why I've favored it over Aspire usually but the more I vape on this Melo tank which is basically a cheap Atlantis tank since it uses the same heads and Aspire and Eleaf are the same company basically the more love the vape I get from the Atlantis, but it seems to go threw juice twice as fast which I didn't think was possible...I mean it just drinks it, I swear it's got a hidden magic reservoir somewhere it's stashing all my liquid :)
 

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