Future: Price of aged Juice comparable to aged wine?

rj9923 · Jun 15, 2015

Just curiosity, will rich people in the future pay thousands of dollars for a 50+ year old bottle of ejuice, just like people pay thousands for aged alcohol?

50 years is just a random number because I don't know how long someone would hold on to juice. Just think of it as aged juice in general.

Will rich people pay extra some day for really old ejuice? If so, is there a time in steeping where it just gets as good as it can be, or can it keep getting better? Or is there an amount of time where the juice would go bad?

I also wonder if anybody has or will speed up the steeping process with perhaps airstones in a giant tank of juice.

Excuse my ignorance if I'm wrong about anything. I'm fairly new to vaping. This is all curiosity.

Zamazam · Jun 15, 2015

Nope. Ejuice has a limited shelf life before the nicotine oxidizes.

UncleRJ · Jun 15, 2015

rj9923 said:
Just curiosity, will rich people in the future pay thousands of dollars for a 50+ year old bottle of ejuice, just like people pay thousands for aged alcohol?

Sadly, more than likely yes.

To quote PT Barnum "There is a sucker born every minute".

Seems to me that we get a fresh crop of idiots with more money than sense every generation.

Anyone remember the "Beanie Baby" craze?

Thousands of dollars for basically a cat toy or a dog chew.

rj9923 · Jun 15, 2015

Zamazam said:
Nope. Ejuice has a limited shelf life before the nicotine oxidizes.

What if there is no nicotine?

rj9923 · Jun 15, 2015

UncleRJ said:
Sadly, more than likely yes.

To quote PT Barnum "There is a sucker born every minute".

Seems to me that we get a fresh crop of idiots with more money than sense every generation.

Anyone remember the "Beanie Baby" craze?

Thousands of dollars for basically a cat toy or a dog chew.

I'd apply that mindset to pretty much everything except for essentials such as food and water. People like to spend money on useless things and that just perpetuates the need to work 50-60 hour weeks.

Barkt · Jun 16, 2015

I can see paying slightly more for a juice I know is steeped. Nothing pisses me off more than buying a juice online only to see it was made the day it shipped. Depending on the flavors in it, this can sometimes mean it has to sit in my closet for a few weeks before its even worth vaping.

However I'm saying I'll pay a buck or two more for that, and we're talking like a month. Juice goes bad as anyone who has ever tried to Vape an old bottle they found in a drawer (or were given in my case) can tell you. That's not to say that some companies won't try it, maybe put it in a wooden box like Jim Beam's Bookers brand whiskey. And yeah, people who consider expensive purchases as bragging rights will buy it. But I really don't think it will become the norm, or even part of the popular knowledge lime it is for wine. I mean, most of us know that older wine is expensive, but most of us also don't buy it

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Teresa P · Jun 16, 2015

I'm sorry, but anyone who knows anything about eliquid, especially DIYers, knows that there is no comparison between wine and juice in the value of aging. Wine gets better with age, eliquid breaks down. I'd gladly drink ten year old wine. Ten year old ejuice is just nasty.

rj9923 · Jun 16, 2015

Teresa P said:
I'm sorry, but anyone who knows anything about eliquid, especially DIYers, knows that there is no comparison between wine and juice in the value of aging. Wine gets better with age, eliquid breaks down. I'd gladly drink ten year old wine. Ten year old ejuice is just nasty.

What if the juice had no nicotine and you kept shaking it for ten years?

Barkt · Jun 16, 2015

rj9923 said:
What if the juice had no nicotine and you kept shaking it for ten years?

Flavors still have shelf lives

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Teresa P · Jun 16, 2015

Barkt said:
Flavors still have shelf lives

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Every fluid in a juice has a shelf life. The OP should huff some outdated VG and get back to us....LOL!!

rj9923 · Jun 16, 2015

Teresa P said:
Every fluid in a juice has a shelf life. The OP should huff some outdated VG and get back to us....LOL!!

I had some pretty old juice before. Got it from a sale at a tobacco shop, 3* 30ml bottles for 10$. The kid selling it said it's been there for over a year. It didn't taste bad.

What would you say the shelf life is?

Teresa P · Jun 16, 2015

Anything over a year old is definitely questionable. Some a lot less than that. I had Mt. Baker juice turn BLACK in about four months. Tried vaping it anyway and it was disgusting.....

bradw71019 · Jun 17, 2015

Barkt said:
I can see paying slightly more for a juice I know is steeped. Nothing pisses me off more than buying a juice online only to see it was made the day it shipped. Depending on the flavors in it, this can sometimes mean it has to sit in my closet for a few weeks before its even worth vaping.

However I'm saying I'll pay a buck or two more for that, and we're talking like a month. Juice goes bad as anyone who has ever tried to Vape an old bottle they found in a drawer (or were given in my case) can tell you. That's not to say that some companies won't try it, maybe put it in a wooden box like Jim Beam's Bookers brand whiskey. And yeah, people who consider expensive purchases as bragging rights will buy it. But I really don't think it will become the norm, or even part of the popular knowledge lime it is for wine. I mean, most of us know that older wine is expensive, but most of us also don't buy it

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There is a way to steep juice in 1 to 2 days. I make and sell ejuice. I only sell high quality steeped juices. I also personally test every bottle before it is sold. Speed steeping doesn't hurt the juice at all but is recommended that it is kept cool and out of the sun after max steep.

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rj9923 · Jun 17, 2015

bradw71019 said:
out of the sun after max steep.

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Why must the juice stay in the dark? And what about when your full 3.5ml clear tank is left in the sun all day?

Barkt · Jun 17, 2015

rj9923 said:
Why must the juice stay in the dark? And what about when your full 3.5ml clear tank is left in the sun all day?

A day won't hurt it, a week will. It's the same reason beer is sold in dark Amber colored bottles. It helps keep sunlight out which in turn helps keeping the temperatures from fluctuating too often.

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mcginnis314 · Jun 18, 2015

Got 6 bottles of Mount Baker Vapor juices from August 2014 still. 50/50, 0mg. Some clear, some brown (from flavors). Not one tastes bad at all. In fact my Sticky Bun is about 10x better. No funky discolorations or tastes. And BTW, every bottle has sat in direct sunlight (near kitchen window) for the past 2 weeks, and no negative affect from it. Just FYI

Teresa P · Jun 18, 2015

Cinnatoast Munch was the culprit here. Loved that one, spot on match for the cereal of near the same name. Sat on the shelf in the dark in my air conditioned office and went absolutely rancid.

cardassian · Jun 18, 2015

Teresa P said:
Anything over a year old is definitely questionable. Some a lot less than that. I had Mt. Baker juice turn BLACK in about four months. Tried vaping it anyway and it was disgusting.....

To be fair most shop bought juice is disgusting.

Teresa P · Jun 18, 2015

cardassian said:
To be fair most shop bought juice is disgusting.

Totally agree. That's why I've made my own for quite a while now.

mcginnis314 · Jun 18, 2015

Yeah, main reason I still have 6 bottles of Mount Baker Vapor is that I didn't like the taste. Only one I somewhat enjoyed was the Sticky Bun. Other 5 are still 90% full. Funny though, I've gone through about 20ml of Cosmic Fog's Milk & Honey. Love that stuff!

Teresa P · Jun 18, 2015

Haven't tried that, but there's a clone in the recipe thread I'd like to try.

mcginnis314 · Jun 18, 2015

Teresa P said:
Haven't tried that, but there's a clone in the recipe thread I'd like to try.

Oh yeah, I've been scouting those threads out. Can't wait to get a stock of flavors. I'm gonna be in vape heaven!

Teresa P · Jun 18, 2015

And saving a ton of money!

mcginnis314 · Jun 18, 2015

Teresa P said:
And saving a ton of money!

I would LOVE to believe that! Sadly, I have a feeling that all the money I would save will just be spent on DIY supplies and hardware. LOL

Teresa P · Jun 18, 2015

Only to start. Once you get your flavors and fluids and such built up, it isn't much expense at all.

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