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I'm new here so I'm not sure where this should go. Members of the ECF, in order to do something about the regulations that we, as vapers are facing has created a petition. Even if you feel that signing will not make a difference , please feel free to sign anyway. The idea is to try to spread this petition throughout the vaping community and beyond. As far we can. There are thousands of vapers that don't belong to a forum or any other vaping media. They are unaware what is truly going on with the FDA and our government. If nothing else, we hope to create an awareness for fellow vapers, friends, relatives and loved ones. So please take 2 minutes of your time to read and sign this petition. Maybe a change could happen.
https://www.change.org/p/u-s-senate...products-ae532682-770e-442b-b155-1c352c1241b6
 
BigNasty

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FUCK ECF.. they will sell you and us out to line their own pockets, which they have been doing for years.
NOTHING on change.org does a damn thing but ask invasive shit and keeps track.

So fuck them both.
 
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This isn't about EFC. I don't care how you feel about them. This is about fighting for our rights. So instead of doing something to make a change, you are just going to sit on your ass .
 
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BigNasty said:
FUCK ECF.. they will sell you and us out to line their own pockets, which they have been doing for years.
NOTHING on change.org does a damn thing but ask invasive shit and keeps track.

So fuck them both.
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This. Do not use change.org. Just giving all your info to the enemy...
 
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dionysuskiss said:
This isn't about EFC. I don't care how you feel about them. This is about fighting for our rights. So instead of doing something to make a change, you are just going to sit on your ass .
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ECF are worse than antz. they are an enemy within, have sold us out in the past and are just in it for their clique and profit.
Change just complies info and sells it to highest bidder.

So again pull your fucking head out of your ass about ECF and Change.
 
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To each their own. It's not THE ECF that created it, but a few of the members. Some people see the glass half full, I guess. So what do YOU suggest we do about it?
 
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What is the percentage of online petitions that have changed vapers' rights for the better?
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And so, is that your reason for doing nothing? What the hell has happened to this country?
 
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I at least took a look at it. I would digitally sign it but I don't think it will matter so I will just say I have acknowledged the effort and I applaud those who will sign it and I also applaud those who like me appreciate it but will pass on it.
 
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Look, I understand that there is probably not enough time to make a difference. Or that even if we get a million signatures(not gonna happen at this rate), it could still fall on deaf ears. But at the very least, it could raise awareness. For every vaper that I know that knows what's going on , I know one that is clueless. And I for one, don't want to hand them the vasaline, while the government bends me over. Now excuse me while I stock more nic in the freezer.
 
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I at least took a look at it. I would digitally sign it but I don't think it will matter so I will just say I have acknowledged the effort and I applaud those who will sign it and I also applaud those who like me appreciate it but will pass on it.
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Thank you Brian, that IMO is the most that can be done, I'll not be shamed into signing something sent from another's word, rather I will investigate my options and do as only I decide to do, my freedoms, my rights :)
As for ECF, yes, Indeed, they can go fuck themselves.
 
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dionysuskiss said:
And I for one, don't want to hand them the vasaline, while the government bends me over.
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If they are not able to bend you over because you signed a petition on this topic.
Be sure they will get a back door on you over something else. Needless to say, it won't be long before they won't even care if you have vasoline.
 
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I'm not trying to shame anyone. And if that is how it is coming across, I'm sorry. It's just quite disheartening. It makes me wonder if, this is how most of the vaping community is going to respond.
 
Count Vapula

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There is no change without effort

Things will stay the course.....

Guess they already won, people are too passive to fight anymore. Long live Xbox, McDonalds and Walmart !

#VapeOn
 
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Count Vapula said:
There is no change without effort

Things will stay the course.....

Guess they already won, people are too passive to fight anymore. Long live Xbox, McDonalds and Walmart !

#VapeOn
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Exactly.
I'm the type of person who, likes to get along with everyone. And that with issues like this, we should all get along for the greater good. Since I'm new here, I did a little search trying to find out "Why the hate?" for a certain other forum. I didn't realize I was stepping on anyone's toes. For those who wish to sign, the link is here .At least until it dies a natural death, buried under new topics.Rallying I will do, begging I will not. Thanks again for those who signed, or at least, looked.
 
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dionysuskiss said:
Exactly.
I'm the type of person who, likes to get along with everyone. And that with issues like this, we should all get along for the greater good. Since I'm new here, I did a little search trying to find out "Why the hate?" for a certain other forum. I didn't realize I was stepping on anyone's toes. For those who wish to sign, the link is here .At least until it dies a natural death, buried under new topics.Rallying I will do, begging I will not. Thanks again for those who signed, or at least, looked.
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Using change.org is a problem as well. A shithole that compiles and sells your information. There is all kinds of dirt on that place...
 
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dionysuskiss said:
And so, is that your reason for doing nothing? What the hell has happened to this country?
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Easy the SJW sign it if you do not agree with it stance. I do not agree with ECF nor do I want to be lumped in with those shady back stabbing motherfuckers. EVERY single do good stand advocacy except the Militia has been to take money from vapors to line their own pockets, the shame tactics about not doing your part and give or sign or whine till you do or they just black list you. Besides ECF has sold out, sold us out and profited along the way. Shame me once sort of thing.

Now change.org will sell your info OR the better one just give your meta data to what ever NGO, or admin front group that wants it.. Just ammo for the antz to go directly to the person and use the change.org info against them.

A blanket strongly worded cover letter does exactly dick, you need to get in touch with your elected officials yourself. Start a dialog with them, some listen most have their heads so far up their own asses it is pointless, or getting their pocket lined with outside lobbyist cash. Make a note and fight against them to get em out of office.
 
Count Vapula

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Very true. Direct action is worth everything. 'Squeaky wheel gets the grease'

If their offices get spammed with phone calls, they will take notice. Enough people might tip the balances ..

They are still concerned mainly with keeping their cushy overpaid jobs, so if these issues threaten that .. they may act.
 
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dionysuskiss said:
And so, is that your reason for doing nothing? What the hell has happened to this country?
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No, that is my reason for not signing online petitions. Not signing that useless websites e-petition does not not equal doing nothing. There are other ways of actually doing something that may change local level politicians' minds. Signing an online petition does one thing, let's people who feel like they should do something feel better about doing nothing. Call it an e-placebo.....
 
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No, that is my reason for not signing online petitions. Not signing that useless websites e-petition does not not equal doing nothing. There are other ways of actually doing something that may change local level politicians' minds. Signing an online petition does one thing, let's people who feel like they should do something feel better about doing nothing. Call it an e-placebo.....
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Also tracks your political leanings with your name and information.
Sure when Hitlery does her two face stumping she will try and cater it to you, or uncle jug ears will dispatch his SS goon squad to arrest and harass you.. re-education anyone?
 
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Easy the SJW sign it if you do not agree with it stance. I do not agree with ECF nor do I want to be lumped in with those shady back stabbing motherfuckers. EVERY single do good stand advocacy except the Militia has been to take money from vapors to line their own pockets, the shame tactics about not doing your part and give or sign or whine till you do or they just black list you. Besides ECF has sold out, sold us out and profited along the way. Shame me once sort of thing.

Now change.org will sell your info OR the better one just give your meta data to what ever NGO, or admin front group that wants it.. Just ammo for the antz to go directly to the person and use the change.org info against them.

A blanket strongly worded cover letter does exactly dick, you need to get in touch with your elected officials yourself. Start a dialog with them, some listen most have their heads so far up their own asses it is pointless, or getting their pocket lined with outside lobbyist cash. Make a note and fight against them to get em out of office.
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I do that as well. I do correspond with my elected officials. And they know fully how their actions will effect my vote. Will it make a difference in the end? Who knows? To me, the petition is simply more grease on the wheel. As for the ANTZ knowing where I live, I could care less. What the fuck are they going to do? Break in my house and take my juice? What damage could they possibly do to me? If it comes to shit like that, they already won.
 
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yep I was trying to find the other thread to move this one to....can't find it.
 
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I'm at an air port in Denver Colorado its freaking hell at the smoke zoo as I call the glass rooms for smokers

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Whiskey

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Just a heads up this will be the 3rd thread started about the same petition, they are all merged into one thread, I think we have plenty of this one now. Just sayin.
 
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You exercise your rights by defiance and refusal to obey. No one in government at any level gives a shit about what you think and your petitions.
 
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Cigmod VonToker said:
You exercise your rights by defiance and refusal to obey. No one in government at any level gives a shit about what you think and your petitions.
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I always thought the best way to exercise your rights was to enslave the crooks in our government. Use them like the Amish use draft horses. They even let you know which side they want to be hitched up on...
 
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