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>DANGER< Hybrid Top Caps/Direct 510 to Battery Mods

Woodsman

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I haven't had an issue but want to share this...
I have a SMPL mod where the 510 pin from the RDA RTA RBA or Clearomizer makes direct contact with the battery. I also have other mods with Hybrid top caps, in which the 510 also makes direct contact with the battery.
I understand this now. When I inspect an older clearomizer, I see that the 510 center pin does not protrude from the 510. If I were to use this in the SMPL, the battery would press against the 510 both negative and positive, and there would be a sparking short.
So...what I know: IF I use a mod where the battery presses directly against the 510, I must be certain that the center Positive pin protrudes from its surrounding Negative sleeve!!
 

Whiskey

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Good heads up Woods, Hopefully folks will see & read this and practice safety!!
 

GrayVaper

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I have a SMPL and although I obey the center pin rule, it generally stays married to my Derringer. It's observations like these that keep us safe.
Good post.
 

Saddletramp1200

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I heard a rumor, ... that some dude took the 9 V out of his Fathers flashlight, & tried to make a Mod. He burned his fingers bad. He was treated for such & listed as an Idiot. He didn't even smoke. Just an Idiot. Had some ego stuff some other Idiot sold him. Somewhere in UK. I don't know.
 
I was using my goblin and goblin mini on my SMPL mod and I posted a pic on facebook. They said I shouldn't be using "tanks" on a hybrid but from what I read, as long as the center pin dropped below the 510 threads, I'm safe. At least now I know I'm right. Thanks for reaffirming this for me.

On a side note, is it safer to use tanks with a mech mod that has a floating pin? For example, a dotmod petri?
 

Woodsman

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I was using my goblin and goblin mini on my SMPL mod and I posted a pic on facebook. They said I shouldn't be using "tanks" on a hybrid but from what I read, as long as the center pin dropped below the 510 threads, I'm safe. At least now I know I'm right. Thanks for reaffirming this for me.

On a side note, is it safer to use tanks with a mech mod that has a floating pin? For example, a dotmod petri?
The floating pin would seem safer, as the adjustable 510 pin on a tank or dripper might lose its adjustment and not be noticed.
 

Woodsman

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The main thing to be aware of is the relationship between the center pin (the positive pin) on the 510 threaded connector, and the positive end of the battery. The only thing touching the positive end of the battery should be the center pin of the 510 connector.
 

Robert B

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The contact pin on an atty should never be loosened/adjusted to protrude out. They should be screwed in tight. If the pin doesn't protrude out past the 510 connector when it's tightened all the way in, don't use it on a hybrid style mod. These contact pins are not made to be adjustable, they are made to hold the center positive deck post in place and make a solid connection. Referring to RDA's & RTA's.
 

Faceless Vapes

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I never recommend hybrid to anyone who isn't a veteran. Honestly if you're not sure about it you shouldn't use it. To much to risk. Don't want to be that guy who blew himself up lol. Safety first. If you are a vet and know exactly what you are doing there is no safety problems when using a hybrid mod. It's all on the users knowledge and experience.

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Robert B

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I never recommend hybrid to anyone who isn't a veteran. Honestly if you're not sure about it you shouldn't use it. To much to risk. Don't want to be that guy who blew himself up lol. Safety first. If you are a vet and know exactly what you are doing there is no safety problems when using a hybrid mod. It's all on the users knowledge and experience.

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Yes, and a little electricity 101 common sense. Many newbs don't realize the power of these lithium batteries and treat them like store bought Rayovac AA's
 

Faceless Vapes

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Yes, and a little electricity 101 common sense. Many newbs don't realize the power of these lithium batteries and treat them like store bought Rayovac AA's
That's where we as users, and the shops have to educate the newbs

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Wow, fantastic Post...
I have one Smpl, Venturi RDA and one Efest battery 35A flat top. someone can say me if I am secure ? I made the Coil 2.2 Ohm and 1.9 .. is all ok for this coils? I prefer not start in Sub Ohms.. =]
and I will verify if the 510 is on the center correctly . . . I buy it yesterday and I not tested yet . .
Thank you Guys !!
 

Neunerball

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The contact pin on an atty should never be loosened/adjusted to protrude out. They should be screwed in tight. If the pin doesn't protrude out past the 510 connector when it's tightened all the way in, don't use it on a hybrid style mod. These contact pins are not made to be adjustable, they are made to hold the center positive deck post in place and make a solid connection. Referring to RDA's & RTA's.
Not quite correct. There are RDAs, and even some RTA/RBA (e.g. SilverPlay, UD Goliath, etc.), that have adjustable contact pins.
 

Robert B

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Not quite correct. There are RDAs, and even some RTA/RBA (e.g. SilverPlay, UD Goliath, etc.), that have adjustable contact pins.

I'm sure there are some exceptions like maybe the veritas, but as a general rule the atty's are not designed to have a loose contact pin. such as the derringer, plume veil, all of Tobh/JayBo's, Mephisto, Aelous, Alliance, or any other 3 post design I've owned or seen.

The only rta's I currently have are Billow, & Orchids. All of which will loosen the positive post if you loosen the contact pin, since that's how they are put together in the first place. I used to have a Silverplay and if I loosened the contact pin the center post would spin. So I would include that one as non-adjustable too.

If the pin is backed off or loose, then it's not making optimum contact. I stand by what I said. Don't loosen a contact pin just so it will work in a hybrid style mod.
 

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