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JTR

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Hi all,

Im new to DIY and will be getting my first mail shipment in a few days. I had a question about TFA Fruit Circles w/ Milk concentrate. If I only want that particular flavor, do I still have to mix it with other flavorings? Im asking because I saw a few youtube vids where the guy says that you should never use just one flavor (that it won't come out right) and that you gotta mix several adding up to 20% of the flavorings for the mix.

What if I use the TFA Fruit Circles w/ milk concentrate; does that mean I can't just use that on its own? Do i really need to mix it with something else, and if so what should I mix it with and what should my percentage be?

Sorry for the newbie question, just want to make sure I understand whats up.

Thanks in advance!
 

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U can try mixing with just one. Only do like a 10 or 15 ml. But I would not use more than 10% the flavor is the pg as well.. so do 10% add ur vg but don't add nic until u either heat steep in a crock pot or time steep. Just because u don't want to waste nic if it's not the flavor ur looking for.. recommend getting the ejuice me up app.. for ur pc it is awesome. For calculating ur juice.

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One thing I've noticed about TFA flavors is they are sort of "single note" flavors. The are fine flavorings in and of themselves but tend to be one dimensional. To get the "this this and that" effect you need to blend with other flavors. To find out what mixes with what is part art and science. Art & science, like a chef or bartender in combining ingredients and also adjusting percents.

I'm fiddling with a pumpkin pie mix right now. The note of TFA pumpkin is very "pumkiny" but the juice needs more cream as a pumpkin pie is actually a custard pie (eggs & milk). To much pumpkin and it's like vapeing stewed squash. To little and it's not pumpkin pie. Change one parameter and you change the whole mix. Finding the right custard/cream combo to compliment the spices and pumpkin is the trick as well as the right level of pumpkin in the juice. I'm thinking Catalan Cream may be needed as FA custard is not working quite right and that means re checking the level of pumpkin. . . mix small until you get it dialed in.

Stick with simple two and three note mixes until you get a feel for your flavors and working with juices, or, go off some of the well regarded mixes on the board here.

Also, Fruit circles with milk is generally regarded as a short cut to a fruit loops cereal juice but not the end point if you catch my drift.
 
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Browse the recipes here and on reddit. Never had fruit circles though.
You absolutely don't need to end up with 20% flavoring either.
Some flavors are stronger than others and you will need to experiment/ research that.
If you were to mix a flavor like FA tiramisu at 20% you might just choke.
With that said, I will agree I haven't found too many flavors I enjoy solo.
If it's a good fruit loop type recipe you are seeking there is an excellent one known as jacksters revised version. It is spot on to me and requires several ingredients.
There is a good cereal thread here also. Check it out. Good luck
 

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Browse the recipes here and on reddit. Never had fruit circles though.
You absolutely don't need to end up with 20% flavoring either.
Some flavors are stronger than others and you will need to experiment/ research that.
If you were to mix a flavor like FA tiramisu at 20% you might just choke.
With that said, I will agree I haven't found too many flavors I enjoy solo.
If it's a good fruit loop type recipe you are seeking there is an excellent one known as jacksters revised version. It is spot on to me and requires several ingredients.
There is a good cereal thread here also. Check it out. Good luck

Yeah, forgot to mention that. . . 20% flavor as a standard for juice is very off.

Even some various TFA flavors are low percenters. Coffees, tobaccos, all kinds of things. 20% total TFA might be OK, 20% FA would be several times too much.

Reddit is a good place.

Here is an example of a cereal-sh juice I've been working on. Not 100% there for me yet but very enjoyable.

Grahams & Milk v1.1.5

3% Brown Sugar (TPA)
1% Cookie (FA)
1% Cream Fresh (FA)
2% Dulce de Leche (TPA)
6% Graham Cracker v2 (CAP)
0.5% Hazel Grove (Hazelnut) (FA)
1% Malted Milk (TPA)
1% Meringue (FA)
1% Sweetener

Flavor total: 16.5%


Here is something different with far lower %'s. . .

Raspberry Lemonaid

2.5% Lemon (FE)
0.5% Lemon Sicily (FA)
1.5% Raspberry (FA)
1% Sweetener

Flavor total: 5.5%
 

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Yeah, forgot to mention that. . . 20% flavor as a standard for juice is very off.

Even some various TFA flavors are low percenters. Coffees, tobaccos, all kinds of things. 20% total TFA might be OK, 20% FA would be several times too much.

Reddit is a good place.

Here is an example of a cereal-sh juice I've been working on. Not 100% there for me yet but very enjoyable.

Grahams & Milk v1.1.5

3% Brown Sugar (TPA)
1% Cookie (FA)
1% Cream Fresh (FA)
2% Dulce de Leche (TPA)
6% Graham Cracker v2 (CAP)
0.5% Hazel Grove (Hazelnut) (FA)
1% Malted Milk (TPA)
1% Meringue (FA)
1% Sweetener

Flavor total: 16.5%


Here is something different with far lower %'s. . .

Raspberry Lemonaid

2.5% Lemon (FE)
0.5% Lemon Sicily (FA)
1.5% Raspberry (FA)
1% Sweetener

Flavor total: 5.5%
Both sound good, might give those a try soon. Thanks
 

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I've used it at 7% but was without milk. There is a great thread here called the cereal mixing thread. There are lots,of references to that flavor and countless combinations. I've found that flavor really needs to steep in order for it to meld nicely with other flavors. Good luck

Here is the thread
http://vapingunderground.com/index.php?threads/69753/

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I've heard so many iffy things about fruit circles that I've never gotten it, so I can't speak from experience, but I've come across a lot of people urging caution with it and saying it has a strong "pledge-like" lemon note. In addition to the thread TVD mentioned, there are also several on reddit. Here's one that has a few references to Fruit Circles: https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/3fu7g7/a_very_cereal_discussion_recipes_suggestions/

If you search from that page on cereal or fruit circles or the word "crunch", you'll come into a lot of conversation about it.
 

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Fruit circles with milk is different then just plain fruit circles. Fruit circles without milk is very very lemony, fruit circles with milk has lemon to it but dies out quickly. Never used fruit circles with milk as a stand alone, only in fruity pebbles, in which case the lemon died out to next to nothing.
 
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Fruit circles with milk is different then just plain fruit circles. Fruit circles without milk is very very lemony, fruit circles with milk has lemon to it but dies out quickly. Never used fruit circles with milk as a stand alone, only in fruity pebbles, in which case the lemon died out to next to nothing.
At what percentages will I need for the cereal and the milk for this to work out right thanks
 

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Like said above, check the cereal mixing thread. Louis loops is a dry cereal taste to me. Add bavarian cream, sweet cream, caps vanilla custard or OneonOne milk (or some of all) to get the milk part of it in if your fruit circles with milk doesn't have enough "milk" to it.

The additions louis made to fruit circles cut down on the pledge flavor. I use about half of the A.P. Louis added but that's personal preference.
 

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One thing I've noticed about TFA flavors is they are sort of "single note" flavors. The are fine flavorings in and of themselves but tend to be one dimensional. To get the "this this and that" effect you need to blend with other flavors. To find out what mixes with what is part art and science. Art & science, like a chef or bartender in combining ingredients and also adjusting percents.

I'm fiddling with a pumpkin pie mix right now. The note of TFA pumpkin is very "pumkiny" but the juice needs more cream as a pumpkin pie is actually a custard pie (eggs & milk). To much pumpkin and it's like vapeing stewed squash. To little and it's not pumpkin pie. Change one parameter and you change the whole mix. Finding the right custard/cream combo to compliment the spices and pumpkin is the trick as well as the right level of pumpkin in the juice. I'm thinking Catalan Cream may be needed as FA custard is not working quite right and that means re checking the level of pumpkin. . . mix small until you get it dialed in.

Stick with simple two and three note mixes until you get a feel for your flavors and working with juices, or, go off some of the well regarded mixes on the board here.

Also, Fruit circles with milk is generally regarded as a short cut to a fruit loops cereal juice but not the end point if you catch my drift.

I'm shooting for a Pumpkin Pie Blizzard from Dairy Queen and I can't for the life of me get the pumpkin from TFA right. I end up with raw uncooked pumpkin followed by spice
 

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I'm shooting for a Pumpkin Pie Blizzard from Dairy Queen and I can't for the life of me get the pumpkin from TFA right. I end up with raw uncooked pumpkin followed by spice
Yeah having the same issue right now. I've set it back on the shelf to sneer at it with derision for now until I get more time to play with it.

Of course the thing is with a pumpkin pie filling is that it is a custard (eggs, sugar & milk) with pumpkin & spices mixed in...


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I too bought the fruit circles with milk. Was a complete bust as a stand alone flavor. Just did not taste good. Great inhale and good exhale till the very end where everything goes south. Well one day I was like f it I'm going to mix everything I have together and see what happens. So I mix everything at 2.5% ( strawberry ripe, Bavarian cream, vanilla custard, cheesecake with Graham, Orange cream, banana, and fruit circles with milk.) It ended up being a perfect fruit loops. Imo, and all my friends love it too. Idk why but when I mixed it all together it was just an awesome combo. Still mixing that as a adv in 15ml batches almost every 3-4 days.
 
I too bought the fruit circles with milk. Was a complete bust as a stand alone flavor. Just did not taste good. Great inhale and good exhale till the very end where everything goes south. Well one day I was like f it I'm going to mix everything I have together and see what happens. So I mix everything at 2.5% ( strawberry ripe, Bavarian cream, vanilla custard, cheesecake with Graham, Orange cream, banana, and fruit circles with milk.) It ended up being a perfect fruit loops. Imo, and all my friends love it too. Idk why but when I mixed it all together it was just an awesome combo. Still mixing that as a adv in 15ml batches almost every 3-4 days.

I just gave your 2.5% solution a spin... literally on a heated magnetic stir plate. I'll shove it into my steep box for 2 weeks and see what happens. I renamed it "Fruit Loops (The Hail Mary Mix). I have tried at least a dozen different recipes from different sites and variations on those. Whats another going to hurt. ;)
To date, the best recipe I have tried is Cuttwood's Bird Brains. A clone of that and I would be in vape heaven. :)
Fingers crossed, 2 weeks from now.
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I just gave your 2.5% solution a spin... literally on a heated magnetic stir plate. I'll shove it into my steep box for 2 weeks and see what happens. I renamed it "Fruit Loops (The Hail Mary Mix). I have tried at least a dozen different recipes from different sites and variations on those. Whats another going to hurt. ;)
To date, the best recipe I have tried is Cuttwood's Bird Brains. A clone of that and I would be in vape heaven. :)
Fingers crossed, 2 weeks from now.
B
I don't even step mine or warm bath it. I just shake and vape. Should give it a shot now and see how you like it.
 

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