I don't see many people using it.
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I dunno, can jet fuel melt titanium beams?
Not any more afraid than any other coil material.
Everyone knows fire can't melt metal.
Dry burning, maybe (I haven't tried that yet). What I know from dry burning kanthal and color comparisons of hot metal if you can turn your watts down enough it could be done. I'm going to guess that would take a mod that bucks voltage with Ti's Ω/inch.
Average torching to anneal, no. Although some probably would torch enough to make it brittle and create titanium dioxide dust because many are never happy unless they go overboard. "Sure it's clean, but I have to get it white hot to make sure it's really clean."
The torch that lights it is hot enough to melt thin steel sheet and small pieces of platinum, so it's freakin' hot.
http://vapingunderground.com/threads/torching-titanium.115760/
Everyone knows fire can't melt metal.
Dry burning, maybe (I haven't tried that yet). What I know from dry burning kanthal and color comparisons of hot metal if you can turn your watts down enough it could be done. I'm going to guess that would take a mod that bucks voltage with Ti's Ω/inch.
Average torching to anneal, no. Although some probably would torch enough to make it brittle and create titanium dioxide dust because many are never happy unless they go overboard. "Sure it's clean, but I have to get it white hot to make sure it's really clean."
The torch that lights it is hot enough to melt thin steel sheet and small pieces of platinum, so it's freakin' hot.
http://vapingunderground.com/threads/torching-titanium.115760/
Been thinking of trying it out. If your careful it could be a good vape from what I've read
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Its shit to work withabsolutely horrible. Least the one i have. Make a 3mm coil, let out the tension and suddenly you end up with 3.5mm coil... I hate it.
Oh and its grade1 24 gauge titanium.
I ordered 24 gauge by accident - it seems to be a totally different animal to the 26 gauge I work with now! But, yes, springy - I use a 2.5 mandrel to end up closer to 3mm!
After research and learning, I'm not so cautious of it now. I plan to buy some actually. I posted this at another forum. I was in the store looking at donuts and guess what? Apparently it's in a look of crap we use,
NO issues with Ti, but Im just learning to make coils. I got spider silk so its 26 gauge and have no springy issue. I wrap on a screwdriver, the one that came with the kanger subtank. It stays tight on it and maintains that shape for me.
I don't see the change to any other form of wire other than Kanthal. It does what we want.
Im loving titanium. I only had a problem with my first coil as I had to get familiar with it. It's been a breeze to work with. My favorite setup as of now is dual twisted 26 awg. The flavor is great and I love how well it works with tc. I've been running it a few days now and it still looks as clean as the day I made it. It seems like it strengthenshould with use. Maybe I'm crazy. I think it would be pretty hard to heat it up hot enuff to combust as its on a tc device and it never gets red as its on a tc device. Heat up is super fast, cool down is a bit slower with twisted setups, but I just see it as its getting juice up my wick preparing for the next hit. I've given away about 20 feet worth of spider silk locally here and there to see what others think but haven't seen anyone yet.
Ps. Remind me to never use powder doughnuts for coils.
Ps. Remind me to never use powder doughnuts for coils.
Only thing that scares me is my Ex Wife's Attorney.
You don't have to build low. I have 2 rda setup with titanium. One is .6 ohms and the other is .25. One is dual coil, the other is single twisted.
The benifit is. When I used to get 2 hits off my mutation x v4 I now get 6 or more and no burn. The other gets a dozen hits on a single twisted and I used to get 3 or 4.
You can literally sick every dang drop off the cutting before returning dripping. I ordered some ready wick stuff last night so I can hit them real hot Temps to top it off.
Haven't tried it yet but will eventually get around to it. Not afraid though. hey I wasn't afraid of smoking knowing I was killing myself !
Are you guys using spider silk or what?
Saw that, scared a little. Read a description, scared a lot.
Jewelry wire. Not willing to pay what the vaping wire wants.
I just wish my wholesale supplier carried it.
I'm looking on eBay and see some good prices, but where do you get yours? Not sure which gauge I should use. I'm fond of 24
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All the horribly inaccurate information on Ti 1 is hilarious.
1: Ti 1 wire will not ignite, heat it up cherry red/yellow/white all you want, it will not ignite. Indisputable fact. Not saying you should vape it after doing so, just saying you're welcome to test it yourself, it won't ignite. Even if you COULD get it to ignite on a mod (which you can't), it will NEVER get that hot while you are vaping....
2: The temperature offset IS predictable, it isn't just a "ballpark".
3: TC does work correctly, and it is totally predictable, you just have to offset the temperature to compensate for the different coefficient of resistance (.0035) from Ni200 (.006).
You can verify your temps at least two different ways.
1: Use a dry wick in a new coil and set tempt o 310f. Slowly increase temp until you see cotton scorching. That temp it scorches at will be right around 420ish, so if your mod is set at 310 and its "just" starting to scorch the coils... just add 110f to whatever the mod is set at to know pretty close to your actual temp.
2: Set it all up, take a pull at a give temp (say 300f). Look at the peak resistance reached during that pull. Lets say you started with a 0.1 ohm coil when cold and it reached 0.18 ohms. That rise is 0.08 ohms. Do the math to convert that to temp: 0.08 / 0.00035 = temp rise in celcius. Then add ambient temp (say 20c) and in this example you end up at 248c as your coil temp, otherwise known as 478f.
For what it's worth, I can vape Koh Gen Do at 350f using 0.09 dual 3mm coils in a Billow v2, on top of snow wolf set to 60 watts and it doesnt scorch, just puts out massive clouds. Never a dry hit, instant heat up time, no issues wicking/feeding fluid can chain vape a full tank down if I desired without so much as a hint of dryness to it.
Ni200 is obsolete, the most pain in the ass wire to work with between kanthal/ti/nicrome/ni200 by far, least durable, must be non contact, and from all indications it is also the most toxic at vaping temperatures.
1: Ti 1 wire will not ignite, heat it up cherry red/yellow/white all you want, it will not ignite. Indisputable fact. Not saying you should vape it after doing so, just saying you're welcome to test it yourself, it won't ignite. Even if you COULD get it to ignite on a mod (which you can't), it will NEVER get that hot while you are vaping....
2: The temperature offset IS predictable, it isn't just a "ballpark".
3: TC does work correctly, and it is totally predictable, you just have to offset the temperature to compensate for the different coefficient of resistance (.0035) from Ni200 (.006).
You can verify your temps at least two different ways.
1: Use a dry wick in a new coil and set tempt o 310f. Slowly increase temp until you see cotton scorching. That temp it scorches at will be right around 420ish, so if your mod is set at 310 and its "just" starting to scorch the coils... just add 110f to whatever the mod is set at to know pretty close to your actual temp.
2: Set it all up, take a pull at a give temp (say 300f). Look at the peak resistance reached during that pull. Lets say you started with a 0.1 ohm coil when cold and it reached 0.18 ohms. That rise is 0.08 ohms. Do the math to convert that to temp: 0.08 / 0.00035 = temp rise in celcius. Then add ambient temp (say 20c) and in this example you end up at 248c as your coil temp, otherwise known as 478f.
For what it's worth, I can vape Koh Gen Do at 350f using 0.09 dual 3mm coils in a Billow v2, on top of snow wolf set to 60 watts and it doesnt scorch, just puts out massive clouds. Never a dry hit, instant heat up time, no issues wicking/feeding fluid can chain vape a full tank down if I desired without so much as a hint of dryness to it.
Ni200 is obsolete, the most pain in the ass wire to work with between kanthal/ti/nicrome/ni200 by far, least durable, must be non contact, and from all indications it is also the most toxic at vaping temperatures.
I got it from, http://www.unkamensupplies.com/coll...16-18-20-22-24-26-28-30-32?variant=1072287925
I got 28ga & 26ga, 26 is my preferred. 26ga & 24ga would probably be better.
Just wiping it clean I got some break in taste (skunk). Ultra-sonic'd the whole spools, wipe clean with vinegar, give a quick burn with a lighter (to dull red, not bright red) and no more taste. The lighter also makes it easier to work with, dead soft.
WE are it. The founders of this way to kick Cigarettes. It's a wonder I can pick a pack of smokes off the ground & throw them in the trash. Don't need that shit no more. Vaping don't burn holes in 80.00 Slacks. Common sense should cover it.
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Just ordered about $120 worth of CP Grade 1 Ti in sizes ranging from 24 to 32 gauges. When it gets here Wednesday or Thursday I'll post up some builds. So far planning on dual fused clapton and a braided build for my dippers and maybe a 32 around 28 clapton 5 wrap dual coil for the billow v2.
Never going back to non TC vaping, don't see the point of it.
Never going back to non TC vaping, don't see the point of it.
i seen a vid on youtube where a guy said he made it appear, but he used a torch. i honestly still don't think dry burning makes in that hot. Most mods don't have the power. If they did, it would be too hot to inhale
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Titanium wire is the best for TC. Screw ni200. I dislike it. You CAN dry pulse it to work out hotspots like kanthal and make contact coils on a mod that will fire it (mech/wattage mod). It will turn blue/green, if it goes white, toss that shit.
I trust my TC mod that it's accurate enough to regulate temperature to a point I'm not worried about it over heating.
Also Tyger just posted a deal from FT the have 10m for around $5
I trust my TC mod that it's accurate enough to regulate temperature to a point I'm not worried about it over heating.
Also Tyger just posted a deal from FT the have 10m for around $5
