We bought a bunch of CAPs flavorings and were doing 0mg nic 5ml bottles to test out some recipes. We read that most caps flavors are very weak so we did a 20% flavoring and 80% VG(kosher USP 99.7pure). We did about 5 batches all different flavors mixed, we shook them up multiple times over a 5 day period then we decided we couldn't wait the full week and wanted to vape them. We have a hunter RDA with a sigele 100 MOD running 24g and a 28g twist coil, but the vape came out flavorless and when i say flavorless i mean ZERO flavor were stumped on what we did wrong. Is our VG to PG ratio to high do we need to dilute it with added PG besides the 20% flavoring? Or could it be the type of VG we bought isn't good? Is our flavoring to high of a percentage ? If anyone could give me some insight or help it would be much appreciated. Thank you
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I am thinking you may have overshot the amount of flavoring - but I'd think at least 1 of the 5 should have had a taste.
Question - did you shake the flavorings before you used them? Some flavorings settle so it is a good idea to shake them even if they seem clear in color.
You can try to dilute back your mixes by adding more VG to them.
Another question it would help to know which of CAP's flavorings you have - then someone can chime in on what percentage works for them. I know that most flavoring brands do not have a set in stone amount (percentage used) for all of their flavorings.
Hopefully this will help at least give you a direction to go.
Question - did you shake the flavorings before you used them? Some flavorings settle so it is a good idea to shake them even if they seem clear in color.
You can try to dilute back your mixes by adding more VG to them.
Another question it would help to know which of CAP's flavorings you have - then someone can chime in on what percentage works for them. I know that most flavoring brands do not have a set in stone amount (percentage used) for all of their flavorings.
Hopefully this will help at least give you a direction to go.
I am thinking you may have overshot the amount of flavoring - but I'd think at least 1 of the 5 should have had a taste.
Question - did you shake the flavorings before you used them? Some flavorings settle so it is a good idea to shake them even if they seem clear in color.
You can try to dilute back your mixes by adding more VG to them.
Another question it would help to know which of CAP's flavorings you have - then someone can chime in on what percentage works for them. I know that most flavoring brands do not have a set in stone amount (percentage used) for all of their flavorings.
Hopefully this will help at least give you a direction to go.
I shake all the flavors prior to using them, i have about 35 +flavors from cap. Yet there's still no flavor if there is it's super faint from what I'm reading it should be strong at 20%. I'm doing a 20%pg to 80%vg ratio there was no flavor, then I did a 30% to 70%vg yesterday I haven't tried. I can smell the flavor but there's no taste it's very weird, and when I try a store bought bottle there so much flavor it's not my tongue....
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The flavors from Capella's that seem to be the most popular are: Vanilla Custard, Sweet Strawberry, Cinnamon Danish Swirl, and New York Cheesecake. Of those I have the VC. I recently made a Great 7 flavor VC using it as the base.
As others have said, FA flavors are stronger. The highest amount of any single FA flavor I've used is 4 percent.
I have flavoring from 4 different companies: TFA, FA, Capella, and 1 from LA (Cream Cheese Icing). What I'm trying to say is I believe each company has good and bad flavors (to my taste budds at least).
Lastly at 20 percent you should be able to taste something, heck it should be strong. You can try Vaping your VG by itself to see if it has an off taste. If that's good (should be ever so slightly sweet) then try mixing up some VG with your Nic and try that. Try to eliminate each ingredient as a possible problem. (I'm assuming your only PG is in the flavorings, if not also try the PG). That's all I have, hope some of it helps.
Cheers,
Steve
As others have said, FA flavors are stronger. The highest amount of any single FA flavor I've used is 4 percent.
I have flavoring from 4 different companies: TFA, FA, Capella, and 1 from LA (Cream Cheese Icing). What I'm trying to say is I believe each company has good and bad flavors (to my taste budds at least).
Lastly at 20 percent you should be able to taste something, heck it should be strong. You can try Vaping your VG by itself to see if it has an off taste. If that's good (should be ever so slightly sweet) then try mixing up some VG with your Nic and try that. Try to eliminate each ingredient as a possible problem. (I'm assuming your only PG is in the flavorings, if not also try the PG). That's all I have, hope some of it helps.
Cheers,
Steve
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I've kept CAPS flavors at or below 6% with plenty of flavor. Over-flavoring can diminish the taste. Sounds weird, I know, but it's real.
Vanilla Custard V2.... I go about 3%..... and I TASTE it ! ( Im not a huge fan, but is is useful in some of my mixes.)
Cool Mint, ( I think thats the name? ), 1% or less..... mostly less !
If you cant taste any of your flavors, and you know its not You..... Something is wrong !
Either you got a Bum batch of concentrates or something ?
How does a drop taste on your finger ?
Cool Mint, ( I think thats the name? ), 1% or less..... mostly less !
If you cant taste any of your flavors, and you know its not You..... Something is wrong !
Either you got a Bum batch of concentrates or something ?
How does a drop taste on your finger ?
Vanilla Custard V2.... I go about 3%..... and I TASTE it ! ( Im not a huge fan, but is is useful in some of my mixes.)
Cool Mint, ( I think thats the name? ), 1% or less..... mostly less !
If you cant taste any of your flavors, and you know its not You..... Something is wrong !
Either you got a Bum batch of concentrates or something ?
How does a drop taste on your finger ?
I just tried the VC at 4% with the cheese cake at 3% and I can faintly taste the cheese cake I have so many flavors from capellas. Uv tried multiple fruit flavors together and it still tastes just like I'm vaping vg..... I've let it steep for 3 days and it's aired out for at least 12 hrs prior. But I'm still having no flavor issuse I just don't get it. My friend said to add sucralose to the batch and it might bring out the flavor. Any thing else I could be doing wrong???
Vape some plain PG/VG/NIC for a day or two, no cheating, lol.
Sounds like Vapors Tongue to me, and you gotta "reset" your taste buds.
Sucralose will mute flavors even more, don't use any until you can actually taste the flavorings first.
Try raising up the PG a bit, if you don't have any problems with it, try 50/50.
You might actually taste something with a 50/50 mix.
BTW you don't need to "air out" final mixes unless they have strong alcohol smell/taste.
Don't want to let the flavors "escape"
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You might need to just try some different brands of flavorings.
i'm having a similar problem, but mine has a funky taste to it - almost like a bad banana taste... although i add no banana to my juices. so i'm going to use this process of elimination to find the culprit. i have a feeling it's my 6+ month old VG. maybe even the PG. everything else is new and even the nic is refrigerated in the back of the fridge in a ziplock bag to keep that flavor from seeping in. who knows... hopefully this tidbit of advice will yield something for me.
So through a bunch of trial and error it was our vg pg ratio it wasn't carrying the flavor when it was 80vg 20pg. So we lowered it to 50/50 and holy shit there a massive amount of flavor at 15% flavoring down from the original 20%. Also we added sucralos on drop which also drew out a lot of flavors we bought. Hopefully if anyone runs into the same issue this will help .
60/40 VG is a good compromise as well. tons of flavor, not much throat hit and good clouds. If you want to do max VG mixes than FA would probably be the better choice as there flavors only require 1 to 5% max as they are very concentrated. So far with Inawera watermelon and caramel I am finding that there flavors are very concentrated as well and a little goes a long way with 1 to 3%.
With Max VG blends you really need to give them a good shake then add 20 more for the flavors to blend. There is a reason the majority of flavor makers use PG as the carrier.
Like others have mentioned using too much can degrade the flavor, with Inawera Caramel it is excellent at 1% but the flavor changes to not so good at 3%. I use a lot of Cap flavors and the only ones I sometimes go over 6% is Vanilla Custard or Sweet Strawberry in some mixes but generally they are all much lower.
With Max VG blends you really need to give them a good shake then add 20 more
for the flavors to blend. There is a reason the majority of flavor makers use PG as the carrier.Like others have mentioned using too much can degrade the flavor, with Inawera Caramel it is excellent at 1% but the flavor changes to not so good at 3%. I use a lot of Cap flavors and the only ones I sometimes go over 6% is Vanilla Custard or Sweet Strawberry in some mixes but generally they are all much lower.