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So I went from team evolve to team yihi for the upgradeable firmware and what to me is a superior 'firing' style, tried the dna200 for curiosity, loving the ss tc.... then I see team yihi is putting out another board rather than upgrade firmware for ss? What's the point of upgradeable firmware if you're not going to upgrade the firmware? They did for TI, why not SS?
I can't keep up with this tech.... I really want a cigarette after seeing this

http://www.yihisxmini.com/index.html
 

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It's all for sales, updating the firmware for SS and other wire is not that difficult. The S class was orphaned with no updates after the M class came, now the M class will be disregarded as the new ML class comes to market. YiHi does not care about the updates of older mods, they want to make money by selling new mods to vapers. If YiHi would up their game and offer a 5000Mah LiPO pack in the same format, they'd sell out the first 4 production runs in a few weeks time.
 

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It's all for sales, updating the firmware for SS and other wire is not that difficult. The S class was orphaned with no updates after the M class came, now the M class will be disregarded as the new ML class comes to market. YiHi does not care about the updates of older mods, they want to make money by selling new mods to vapers. If YiHi would up their game and offer a 5000Mah LiPO pack in the same format, they'd sell out the first 4 production runs in a few weeks time.

Well, I guess the only way to keep up affordably is to pick a team and stick to it, or say fuck tc
 

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The kick in the ASS is that I have a cloudmaker sx on preorder that is apparently already obsolete
 

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You could always cancel the pre-order, that's probably what I would do.

Cheers,
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PS. I'm assuming they will come out with a CM using the new chip.
 
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I emailed them already asking what options were.
 

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I emailed them already asking what options were.
I'm really interested in hearing their response, I was looking at that same mod (although for down the road, not immediate future).
 

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I'm really interested in hearing their response, I was looking at that same mod (although for down the road, not immediate future).
Gonna give them a day to respond figuring they may be as surprised about it as myself, considering I have no life and stay on top of the tech side. They may be scrambling to figure out an economical solution for all parties involved. (I hope thats what they are doing)
If I don't hear back today im going to try calling them.
 

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I hope so too, for your sake! I'm kind of glad I didn't buy into the M class over the holiday weekend sales period. I thought about it, long and hard, but decided to hold off due to budget issues.

Looks like Yihi has decided it is better for their bank account to release new mods than update their flagships, I think I'll explore the Evolve chips instead!
 

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Evolv was the same way, there are multiple revisions of the dna40.
:.....and this is why I still love mechanicals
 

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Evolv was the same way, there are multiple revisions of the dna40.
:.....and this is why I still love mechanicals
The DNA40 was a clusterfuck. No ability to upgrade except to buy a new board or mod, plus the basic idea of locking the temp limiting resistance was implemented a while after China did it with their DNA40 clone boards and mods. YiHi became incredibly popular because the offered upgrades to fix bugs, up power, and add options for wire other than Kanthal. Evolv's offering with the DNA200 is good, but expensive like the YiHi Mods.

The future in regulated mods will belong to the company that supports their boards with updates going back a couple generations. If YiHi does this, they will gain an even larger loyal following. These will be the type of vapers that will buy a new YiHi device when it comes out. The YiHi M class has been a solid and dependable platform, good updates, crappy documentation. I own a Mile High Mods SX350 non-temp control box and it is utterly reliable. At 100W it might seem under-powered by the high watt boxes we see nowadays, but how many people vape at 100W+? I sure as hell don't, my drippers make great flavorful clouds 75-85 watts.

I think that if Provape came out with a 150watt Box mod with temp control at a price point of under $200, they would impact Evolv and YiHi quite deeply. Many people would bypass all the glitches and fixes for a mod that was rock solid with great customer service. Both YiHi and Evolv fall short in that area, however it has more to do with their marketing strategy than anything else. Evolv could have stellar customer service, but that would be lost when they sell their boards to mod companies who hoist their middle finger at customers after the sale is made.
 

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I emailed them already asking what options were.
Unfortunately, since we don't know much about the chip yet, it's hard to plan an approach. We've got a message in to our YiHi rep, but dealing with them is nothing like dealing with Evolv. They're surprisingly rigid about their many rules & policies, and they've always been rather tight-lipped & very protective of the SXmini's market share, even building some proprietary advantages into its version of the SX350J firmware (though I haven't seen any indication of hardware spec differences).

For customers who pre-ordered the Whiteout SX, if you're like to change your order to a Whiteout DNA (which can be used with 18650s at up to 133W, if you pick up a dual-18650 DNA Build Kit from us). Alternatively, if you'd prefer to wait until we know the specifics of the SX350J-V2 so we can determine how we'll approach the transition (beyond the obvious V2 Build Kit for those who want to upgrade), we'll keep you guys in the loop as soon as we know specifications, availability timelines, and other critical details. Once that information is available & we can announce our plans, pre-order customers who waited will still be able to change configurations, if they so desire. I expect at the very least, we'll offer a discount on the V2 Build Kit to Whiteout SX pre-order customers, but we're also looking into alternative proactive approaches depending on what YiHi tells us. Who knows? The chip might be identical in dimensions & mounting points to the V1 (the SXmini ML images look very similar, at least), and it might be a seamless transition (from a component design perspective). Or, it might be 4 months before 3rd party vendors can even place orders for the SX350J-V2, and this discussion may be severely premature.

Either way, I hope YiHi's SXi-Q is a legit answer to eScribe, because the rest of the V2 chip seems (from what little we know so far) to be more of an incremental upgrade that could've been accomplished with a firmware push, if the profit/marketshare motive wasn't a primary factor. I hope I end up being impressed despite myself, but regardless of what happens with the V2, the V1 is still one of the best chips on the market. YiHi had better not discontinue firmware updates for the V1 chip now that they've announced the successor (I'll be asking about that too when CMT's rep responds). Unfortunately, in my book, that's the likely real headline behind this announcement: "YiHi Discontinues Firmware Update Dev for SXmini M-Class." Let's hope I'm wrong though, for everyone who paid $200 for a flagship device released less than 5 months ago that is currently still running a 'test' version of the Titanium firmware update. -_-

This is yet another perfect example of why the Whiteout platform is such a great departure from the norm. Once again, a PV company had dropped a totally-unexpected new device on us not even half a year after their previous flagship came out. Development cycles have gotten so short that it's increasingly difficult for small manufacturers & new startups to be relevant, because when you start developing a device around a particular PCB, by the time you start production on it, the chip you chose is perceives as 'obsolete' because something new has already been announced or released.

You can see this happening with DNA40 mods frequently these days -- the DNA40 is not even a year old yet, and in the past couple months, a host of newly-released DNA40 devices have finally started appearing in stock in stores, because a year's time is not that long when you're developing hardware from the ground up. CMT has been working on the Whiteout since January, so our development process has taken about ~9 months from initial founding of the company to expected shipping of first batch units. If we hadn't been designing the device to be modular & accept future PCBs, we'd be totally out of luck on all the R&D money spent to develop the Whiteout, because there's no way we could become profitable quickly enough to recoup those costs before the original chip the device was designed around became old news.

While it's true that follow-up devices can be developed more quickly even by companies with static platforms, that doesn't change the fact that this rapid development cycle makes entering the hardware market increasingly challenging for new PV companies, particularly non-Chinese ventures facing much higher costs on everything from components to overhead. It's also rough on consumers & their wallets, because it's increasingly costly to keep up with the cutting-edge (do you realize that by now, most devices sold in 2014 can't even fire the majority of 2015's subohm tanks? These concerns were all major factors in the Whiteout's development, and we appreciate all the support & feedback you've all given us to help make this platform a reality. We're so close to finally being able to share it with you all, and then the real fun starts...
 
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Hi @returnity !

Is it safe to assume you are from the company? If that post is remotely true, then at least there is some contingency planning going on regarding the announcement.

Have a good one!

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Just want to point out a small thing about vaping on SS.

The CR for SS is incredibly small compared to Ni/Ti as we well know. It is a distinct possibility that the M class chip doesn't measure in small enough increments to successfully control SS wire, leading to a new chip design the ML. Not saying I know this as a fact, just speculating on a possible reason for the new chip.

Additionally, the processor needs to update faster than with Ti/Ni because those small incremental changes that are 1/6th the change of an Ni coil per degree need to be caught faster to control the temp properly.
 
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Unfortunately, since we don't know much about the chip yet, it's hard to plan an approach. We've got a message in to our YiHi rep, but dealing with them is nothing like dealing with Evolv. They're surprisingly rigid about their many rules & policies, and they've always been rather tight-lipped & very protective of the SXmini's market share, even building some proprietary advantages into its version of the SX350J firmware (though I haven't seen any indication of hardware spec differences).

For customers who pre-ordered the Whiteout SX, if you're like to change your order to a Whiteout DNA (which can be used with 18650s at up to 133W, if you pick up a dual-18650 DNA Build Kit from us). Alternatively, if you'd prefer to wait until we know the specifics of the SX350J-V2 so we can determine how we'll approach the transition (beyond the obvious V2 Build Kit for those who want to upgrade), we'll keep you guys in the loop as soon as we know specifications, availability timelines, and other critical details. Once that information is available & we can announce our plans, pre-order customers who waited will still be able to change configurations, if they so desire. I expect at the very least, we'll offer a discount on the V2 Build Kit to Whiteout SX pre-order customers, but we're also looking into alternative proactive approaches depending on what YiHi tells us. Who knows? The chip might be identical in dimensions & mounting points to the V1 (the SXmini ML images look very similar, at least), and it might be a seamless transition. Or, it might be 4 months before 3rd party vendors can even place orders for the SX350J-V2, and this discussion may be severely premature.

Either way, I hope YiHi's SXi-Q is a legit answer to eScribe, because the rest of the V2 chip seems (from what little we know so far) to be more of an incremental upgrade that could've been accomplished with a firmware push, if the profit/marketshare motive wasn't a primary factor. I hope I end up being impressed despite myself, but regardless of what happens with the V2, the V1 is still one of the best chips on the market. YiHi had better not discontinue firmware updates for the V1 chip now that they've announced the successor (I'll be asking about that too when CMT's rep responds).

This is yet another great example of why the Whiteout platform is so useful. Once again, a PV company drops a totally-unexpected new device on us not even 5 months after the previous flagship SXmini M-class was released. Development cycles have gotten so short that it's increasingly difficult for small manufacturers & new startups to be relevant, becausse when you start developing a device around a particular PCB, by the time you start production on it, the chip you chose is perceives as 'obsolete' because something new has already been announced or released. You can see this happening with DNA40 mods very frequently these days -- the DNA40 is not even a year old yet, and in the past couple months, a whole host of new DNA40 devices have come onto the market, because a year's time is not that long when you're developing hardware from the ground up. CMT has been working on the Whiteout since January, so our development process has taken about ~9 months from initial founding of the company to expected shipping of first batch units. If we hadn't been designing the device to be modular & accept future chips, we'd be totally out of luck on all the R&D money spent to develop the Whiteout, because there's no way we could become substantially profitable and recoup those costs before the original chip we designed the device around is old news & no one is buying anymore. While it is true that follow-up devices can be developed more quickly even by companies with static platforms, that doesn't change the fact that this extremely rapid development cycle makes entering the hardware market increasingly challenging for new PV companies, especially non-Chinese ventures. It's also hard on consumers, because it's becoming increasingly costly to keep up. These facts were all major factors in the Whiteout concept, and we appreciate all the support & feedback you've all given us to help make this platform a reality. We're so close to finally being able to share it with you all, and then the real fun can get started!
Thank you, I PM'd you.... I would be stoked with just a firmware ubpdate that let me use tc with ss, and one on the DNA giving Kanthal a. Boost mode but both would make a good board perfect and we can't have that. right now though I I'm not sure if I should have ordered the DNA or the sx. Thelma was to get both and use them to keep up with the changing board formats.... looking like I chose unwisely lmao
 
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So I went from team evolve to team yihi for the upgradeable firmware and what to me is a superior 'firing' style, tried the dna200 for curiosity, loving the ss tc.... then I see team yihi is putting out another board rather than upgrade firmware for ss? What's the point of upgradeable firmware if you're not going to upgrade the firmware? They did for TI, why not SS?
I can't keep up with this tech.... I really want a cigarette after seeing this

http://www.yihisxmini.com/index.html

So basically my IPV4S is going to be made obsolete instead of doing a firmware upgrade? I guess we can only wait and see? I recently picked up a mech and starting to fall in love with it more and more (I've jumped off the TC bandwagon for now until things stabilize if they ever do). If I stay with kanthal which I plan on doing for awhile now, its really nice to see that they're upgrade proof.

I hope Yihi upgrades the chipset in the IPV4S to give the features of that new chip in the link.
 

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So basically my IPV4S is going to be made obsolete instead of doing a firmware upgrade? I guess we can only wait and see? I recently picked up a mech and starting to fall in love with it more and more (I've jumped off the TC bandwagon for now until things stabilize if they ever do). If I stay with kanthal which I plan on doing for awhile now, its really nice to see that they're upgrade proof.

I hope Yihi upgrades the chipset in the IPV4S to give the features of that new chip in the link.
They might, but I wouldn't hold your breath. If they update features on "older" models, it will cut into sales of newer ones!
 

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So basically my IPV4S is going to be made obsolete instead of doing a firmware upgrade? I guess we can only wait and see? I recently picked up a mech and starting to fall in love with it more and more (I've jumped off the TC bandwagon for now until things stabilize if they ever do). If I stay with kanthal which I plan on doing for awhile now, its really nice to see that they're upgrade proof.

I hope Yihi upgrades the chipset in the IPV4S to give the features of that new chip in the link.
I stopped using tc altogether for months and then I got the 200 and programmed it for SS out the box and been hooked back on it since
 

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I stopped using tc altogether for months and then I got the 200 and programmed it for SS out the box and been hooked back on it since
I think I need to start exploring this SS everyone seems to be talking about! Of course, that will ALSO require a new mod ... so to the back burner it goes! :(
 

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I think I need to start exploring this SS everyone seems to be talking about! Of course, that will ALSO require a new mod ... so to the back burner it goes! :(

People are using SS in non TC applications. I haven't tried it myself yet, but the next time I order from a place that carries it, I will.
 
The kick in the ASS is that I have a cloudmaker sx on preorder that is apparently already obsolete
No no its not the cloud maker has the ability to swap chips not to mention that you could bring you much do all those things on the end class already joules mode but you just don't have the option of putting the selector to TI or ni 200
Well, I guess the only way to keep up affordably is to pick a team and stick to it, or say fuck tc


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Hi guys I just wanted to say don't jump to conclusions too fast because think about it when YIHI SX350J M CLASS came out at first I was already using titanium wire on it without any updates. Also you could use stainless steel on them right now as well so do understand where are you guys are coming from yes why honestly you will be able to probably do everything the new one will the only thing you're not going to be able to do is probably switch the mode that has the symbols in it for the material you're using. I've even used Gplat in joules mode.

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No no its not the cloud maker has the ability to swap chips not to mention that you could bring you much do all those things on the end class already joules mode but you just don't have the option of putting the selector to TI or ni 200



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What?
I think you're missing my point.
:.... I think.
First of all, I'm not mad with cloudmaker at all, just like I wasn't mad at Hana or vapor shark for evolve's inability to fix the dna40. the modmakers are at the mercy of the chip makers a lot of times. my issue is I don't have a limitless vape budget and I've seen on more than one occasion a preorder go into the black abyss of longevity, coupled with, the concept of possibly getting a mod that is obsolete when I open the box. Yes I can seal chips but right now the upgrade kits are listed at 80-90 dollars which could potentially mean the 200$ mod will cost 300$.
Again none of that is CM's problem. I wanted the information so that I can make an informed decision, and since my OP, they have made available the information they have as well as opened the door for me to change my original purchase, should I decide to do so.

And I have an 'm' class ' I know I can use ss, but it only works in power mode, I am using all ss now, I am enjoying it on the dma200 in TC. I do not care for TI at all, and 50j in nickel is not enough power for me to fire a dual coil dripper the way I like.
 
What?
I think you're missing my point.
:.... I think.
First of all, I'm not mad with cloudmaker at all, just like I wasn't mad at Hana or vapor shark for evolve's inability to fix the dna40. the modmakers are at the mercy of the chip makers a lot of times. my issue is I don't have a limitless vape budget and I've seen on more than one occasion a preorder go into the black abyss of longevity, coupled with, the concept of possibly getting a mod that is obsolete when I open the box. Yes I can seal chips but right now the upgrade kits are listed at 80-90 dollars which could potentially mean the 200$ mod will cost 300$.
Again none of that is CM's problem. I wanted the information so that I can make an informed decision, and since my OP, they have made available the information they have as well as opened the door for me to change my original purchase, should I decide to do so.

And I have an 'm' class ' I know I can use ss, but it only works in power mode, I am using all ss now, I am enjoying it on the dma200 in TC. I do not care for TI at all, and 50j in nickel is not enough power for me to fire a dual coil dripper the way I like.
It is if you use the ugly stick but it's ugly.lol. but yeah man I hear what you're saying. But not you but what I think a lot of people seem to forget is that the this technology so pretty much new s*** comes out every month and that's how technology is with everything computers cell phones all those gadgets you know what I'm saying.

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Ummmmm yeah I reckon... I UNDERSTAND technology more than most, based on my field, sort of an occupational hazard. That doesn't mean I have to like the idea of a new chip every year(or 9 months), like apple and Samsung are with phones. not when they sell them as 'upgradeable firmware' sort of a defeatist concept. if they can add in a tcr curve to make it operational with SS than their is no real conceptual reason why they can not do it for SS and still put out the v2 for the other functionality. Or maybe be a little more forthcoming with information.

It is if you use the ugly stick but it's ugly.lol. but yeah man I hear what you're saying. But not you but what I think a lot of people seem to forget is that the this technology so pretty much new s*** comes out every month and that's how technology is with everything computers cell phones all those gadgets you know what I'm saying.

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@returnity thank you for your help with the cloudmaker mod. just to be clear, I was not in any way agitated with cloudmaker. I'm more agitated with the timing and yihi pushing out yet another board rather than a firmware update and keeping the board that's less than a year old current.
The reality is it just reinforces the reason I'm taking advantage of a modular system and joining #longtermsolution
 

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@returnity thank you for your help with the cloudmaker mod. just to be clear, I was not in any way agitated with cloudmaker. I'm more agitated with the timing and yihi pushing out yet another board rather than a firmware update and keeping the board that's less than a year old current.
The reality is it just reinforces the reason I'm taking advantage of a modular system and joining #longtermsolution

What is #longertermsolution (sorry, I'm not very social media oriented)? I would love a modular system. The Cloud Maker Whiteout looks promising, but as always... need more info on it.
 

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What is #longertermsolution (sorry, I'm not very social media oriented)? I would love a modular system. The Cloud Maker Whiteout looks promising, but as always... need more info on it.
The hashtag was just something i made up. Im going whiteout; because, I like staying on top of both yihi and evolv's tech; which, can be expensive. Whiteout is designed to let me do that less expensively via replacing an easily changeable module with the board rather than a new 200$ mod every time a new chip is released.
 

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The hashtag was just something i made up. Im going whiteout; because, I like staying on top of both yihi and evolv's tech; which, can be expensive. Whiteout is designed to let me do that less expensively via replacing an easily changeable module with the board rather than a new 200$ mod every time a new chip is released.

Oh haha!! Nice! My dumb ass started googling #longertermsolution box mod! Anyway, I did more research on the Whiteout and I'm pretty much on board with it. I'm not going to pre-order it but probably around Christmas or Tax time is when I'll grab one of those beauties. I picked up my IPV4S for the reason that I thought they would upgrade their firmware, as they did with the IPV3 Li and IPV4 when the 4S came out. I thought "Cool, a company thats going to upgrade firmware and make it meaningful". It is my first Yihi device but I thought after the whole IPV4 fiasco (basically a sign of the times that they are just going to release new devices as opposed to upgrading existing ones), they'd stay on top of it.

Apparently not lol. For me, while I'm not big on TC, I just want the option there in case it the tech stabilizes and I want to try it again. Same with wattage, while I'll never go above 60w, I like having the option there if there's an application for something kissing 100w. I love the concept of the Whiteout that I can swap the builds around depending on what I want or what chipset I like. I also like the concept of an open source OS for vaporizers. I think CloudMaker has something good and I'll definitely be investing in that after a few months of it being on the market.

It really sucks that these advanced regulated mods are going the same route as cell phone technology. Whats next, updates that break my devices thus forcing me to buy a new one? Either way, the Cloudmaker looks nice and is backed by a company that doesn't want us spending hundreds of dollars a month on new mods, I'm staying with kanthal for now, my mech(s) are upgrade proof because of that...
 

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So if I pull the trigger on a SX Whiteout there will ultimately be a solution to the new Yihi board with a modular upgrade assuming the board is approximately the same size as the v1 J? I am assuming it is similar in size based on the the ML mod rendering.
 

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Yeah switched my sxm to the sxdna200...when yihi tells the sx350 modders about getting the chip, thats when ill order a whiteoutsx.
But there will be no mini ml for me, not when I know in 6 months they'll have a mini m&m
 
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Thank you, I PM'd you.... I would be stoked with just a firmware ubpdate that let me use tc with ss, and one on the DNA giving Kanthal a. Boost mode but both would make a good board perfect and we can't have that. right now though I I'm not sure if I should have ordered the DNA or the sx. Thelma was to get both and use them to keep up with the changing board formats.... looking like I chose unwisely lmao

Here is the latest from Cloudmaker. Jeremy is currently in China overseeing the first production run of the whiteout and had a meeting with Yihi.

While I was visiting YiHi, I also managed to score some insider SX350J-V2 info for everyone! We had a long car ride from the airport to talk about the SX350J-V2 in private. Obviously, everyone wants to know the scoop, and I’ve even heard some people online calling the SX350J “obsolete” already, so I decided to find out directly from YiHi. I was told the V1 & V2 PCB boards are basically identical, with a firmware upgrade for a new “computer control” feature which sounded like some kind of enhanced presets. This feature is likely related to the new SX-iQ version of YiHi’s SXmini ‘SX-i’ firmware upgrade software, but I confirmed that it will be nothing like eScribe.

Basically, according to YiHi themselves, the SX350J-V2 doesn’t have a whole lot going on that’s substantially different than V1. Plus, YiHi made this chip specifically for the SXmini ML device, and they’re just beginning production on the PCBs intended for eventual use in those units now. I was told they have no immediate plans to make the SX350J-V2 available for purchase to 3rd -party chip vendors, so there’s no rush to plan a Build Kit for these chips, even if the community requests one in the future.

So, don’t fret, soon-to-be Whiteout SX owners — you don’t need to swap to the DNA200 or start worrying about V2 build kits! However, if you know anyone who likes the idea of vaping off their grandma’s jewelery, or builds their own bling, YiHi hinted that the SXmini ML and a roll of gold wire would be the perfect Christmas present… As long as you don’t need a guarantee your pre-order will be delivered by a specific date, like Christmas morning! =P
 

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So white cloud is being released by Christmas? Lol
thanks dude!
 

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So white cloud is being released by Christmas? Lol
thanks dude!

Haha....Only if there's an earthquake in China. Current latest update is no later than second week in October for delivery to pre-orders. I think he's talking about the SX350j V2 being able to vape with gold wire, out by Christmas.
 

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Haha....Only if there's an earthquake in China. Current latest update is no later than second week in October for delivery to pre-orders. I think he's talking about the SX350j V2 being able to vape with gold wire, out by Christmas.
There is no way in the world I will vape with gold wire. That's just insanity.
 

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So I wonder if Yihi is going to update the 350j if there isn't much if any difference between the boards? Not expecting everything but maybe SS. While they're at it, I'd appreciate an update for the 3 Li :D
 

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If you're not flush with cash the V2 apparently will also vape with silver wire. Having said that, there are plenty of clowns out there looking for bragging rights!
 

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If you're not flush with cash the V2 apparently will also vape with silver wire. Having said that, there are plenty of clowns out there looking for bragging rights!
Let them have their bragging rights.

So to understand, this update is being said to give all the functionality of the v2 to the v1? Or just give the v1 SS functionality? Would be cool of their answer to describe made its way to the v1
 
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Let them have their bragging rights.

So to understand, this update is being said to give all the functionality of the v2 to the v1? Or just give the v1 SS functionality?

As far as I know, nothing has been mentioned about an update to the V1. SS, silver and gold for the V2. I would guess this is a stop gap until Yihi release a response to the DNA 200 when you will be able to vape with Di-lithium crystals and probably Kriptonite!
 

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As far as I know, nothing has been mentioned about an update to the V1. SS, silver and gold for the V2. I would guess this is a stop gap until Yihi release a response to the DNA 200 when you will be able to vape with Di-lithium crystals and probably Kriptonite!
Honestly... I see no reason at all to go past SS yet.
Nickel is a pain in the ass, and TI is questionable on its safety depending on which person you talk tom
SS has been used for vaping since the beginning, is as easy to work with as kanthal, and has a usable TCR.
I find it hard to believe that the illuminati of vaping(evolv) hadn't explored it as a usable material in the beginning. Thats neither here nor there, I do see it as the ideal material to have available since it would work equally well on a non TC mod.
The Gold, silver, frankensesnse and murr are for baby Jesus and the special vapors.
 
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It's all for sales, updating the firmware for SS and other wire is not that difficult. The S class was orphaned with no updates after the M class came, now the M class will be disregarded as the new ML class comes to market. YiHi does not care about the updates of older mods, they want to make money by selling new mods to vapers. If YiHi would up their game and offer a 5000Mah LiPO pack in the same format, they'd sell out the first 4 production runs in a few weeks time.
All manufactures want you to buy new all the time. If they don't create new designs then things would not advance. Look at all the advancements in vaping in the last two years alone.

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Honestly... I see no reason at all to go past SS yet.
Nickel is a pain in the ass, and TI is questionable on its safety depending on which person you talk tom
SS has been used for vaping since the beginning, is as easy to work with as kanthal, and has a usable TCR.
I find it hard to believe that the illuminati of vaping(evolv) hadn't explored it as a usable material in the beginning. Thats neither here nor there, I do see it as the ideal material to have available since it would work equally well on a non TC mod.
The Gold, silver, frankensesnse and murr are for baby Jesus and the special vapors.

As you know, technology moves so fast in this industry. Innokin are introducing TC from the 510 which means you could choose any wire you liked with no need to do anything else input wise. We'll just have to see if it works on any atty or one you have to get from Innokin.
 

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All manufactures want you to buy new all the time. If they don't create new designs then things would not advance. Look at all the advancements in vaping in the last two years alone.

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All except the Cloudmaker Whiteout which is modular.....DNA 300? ....no problem as it's plug and play.
 

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As you know, technology moves so fast in this industry. Innokin are introducing TC from the 510 which means you could choose any wire you liked with no need to do anything else input wise. We'll just have to see if it works on any atty or one you have to get from Innokin.
I get that, I totally do. And quite frankly there are a few things with innokins concept that I question. But, Knowing them, when they are ready to release the mod they will be the anti-assholio and just explain it.
This yihi thing is a totally different type of situation that has beaten already and for the most part answered.
Thank you for that.
I still think vaping gold is dumb
I do hope that yihi follows through with this.
 

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