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Are the day's of high price retail eJuice sales over with ? See what VaporJoe says!

BoomStick

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Cloned juices may be coming, but high powered mods and juice guzzling atty's are already here and are already affecting people's ability to be able to afford pricey juice.
 

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He's right. Those guys are being cloned right here on this forum (and some quite well), it's just a matter of time before one of them branches out.....;)
 

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I for one will not pay $20 for a bottle of juice unless it is a super special occasion. Most of my purchases like everyone else is online. I have to say though I am sick of the same lines. All shops say they have "overhead" and I am like "so all shops have the same overhead?". I literally want to throw my money at a local Brick and mortar, but until they start competing with online vendors my money is going to the online vendors. Thanks Joe for talking about it.
 

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Thanks Smokie and thanks Joe . I have no problem with 20$ juice (seldom spent more), but now I can find juice a lot cheaper , that taste just as good if not better .
It's u.s. made and not garbage . But as long as some want to spend 25$ and more , it will always be around , and good luck to them if that,s what people want . But like I said if you want cheaper it's out there .
 

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I don't hope that China starts cloning juices, that would be awful, but certainly possible. I do hope, that after hearing stuff such as that, and if consumers speak through purchases, that juice will come down in price. I order the vast majority of my juice online, Vape Caviar has their Plume Juice dripping line for 19.99 a 120ml. They're constantly doing flash sales, too. Not all are great, but I have quite a few ADV's from there. They make good juice, and it's damn cheap. It is my go to, and it's not just the price, they make legitimately good juice.

The only time I'll shell out for premium juices tends to be either when they're on sale, and or when I drop by my favorite shop. I tend to hang out and vape with them, and they inevitably let me drip juices that tend to give me one I feel is worth it, in part to support them. They always give me deals, too. Plus, juice is one of the few things that most shops don't mark up. It's ridiculous to me to spend more for a 30ml than I would for 120ml, but on occasion I do.

Screw glass bottles and fancy labeling. Go to plastic, and less ornate labels, save a buck there. Then, drop prices. The point of how we all have juice guzzling tanks and RDA's is a good one. I use way more juice now than my Kayfun days. Hell, I can almost see juice disappearing after each pull on my arctic tank. I and many others just can't afford these juices, even if I didn't vape as much. We will see what happens.

I could see the days of house juice going away. It's going to depend on the rules required of juice companies by the FDA. If an investment into a multi million dollar facility and passing standards is required, only the largest companies will survive. That scenario could see juice go up. The people at my most frequented vape shop think that we will end up seeing brands like suicide bunny in Walmart. Could happen. Point is, juice is too pricey. I hope it does start to come down in price like mods have.
 

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If I want to treat myself to a nice bottle of Juice I will spend $20.00 to $22.00 for 30ml. That is as high as I am willing to go for a treat and I don't do it very often. For my daily vaping I spend around $16.00 for 30ml. I recently bought some juice called U-Turn, its a new line from Liquidejuice. They sell what they call "Premium" Juice in glass bottles, 30 ml for $10.00 Canadian. (thats about US$7.50) That is the retail price from a B&M shop. I tried 3 flavors and they were all very good. This is now my daily juice. I don't know if they sell it in the USA yet, but here's a link for anyone interested. http://liquidejuice.com/collections/u-turn
 

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Joe has a valid point but if some people get their way, the cost of juice will skyrocket due to regulations and taxes. Plus i wonder how accurate Joe is. Dont get me wrong, i think he is probably correct. But do we actually know how many people who buy juices:
1 only buy at local b and ms
2 online exclusively
3 a mix of the two

Joe's statements are true of the more informed vapors and those who do research and shopping online

Many people I run into, have never looked online for their vape supplies. They know nothing of DIY juice making. Are those type of people spending enough money in the industry to keep those prices of high end juice up there? Or is the bulk of the money coming from people like us who are online ,reading forums, making our own juices, and buying our stuff online? There are more factors to consider then what Joe presents in this video. Joe may very well be spot on with his assesment, I do not have the answers to anything I asked, I doubt many people even Joe know those answers.
 

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Finding good quality juice at ~$60 for 120ml is not hard. US made from major brands. The bigger you buy the less it costs usually, so if you have an ADV you are consistent with, just buy a 1 Liter bottle and move on, it'll be a big cost at once, but over time it will be much cheaper per ml than buying all those 30ml bottles.

Vape juice from china... go ahead.. not like they have ever had cases of contamination in baby food, kids toys, etc etc. Seriously though, this is something you are inhaling, not a chunk of metal you are handling, maybe do a little risk vs reward analysis.

Risk of contaminants in juice from china = very high
Reward = I can save a few dollars on a smoking alternative that is already cheaper than cigarettes even buying ultra-premium $2.00/ml juice.
 

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Risk of contaminants in juice from china = very high
Reward = I can save a few dollars on a smoking alternative that is already cheaper than cigarettes even buying ultra-premium $2.00/ml juice.

at $2 per mil, then if you vape more then 2-3 ml a day its cheaper to smoke. I vape 10-15mil a day and spend 10-15 cents a ml
 

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It's not gonna end pretty regardless. Now since we have a tobacco tax on juice, it added $5 if you get nic here. I'm afraid to use ebay because I'm afraid of what I could get. Could be colored pee in a bottle. Maybe I'll give it a shot.
 

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Finding good quality juice at ~$60 for 120ml is not hard. US made from major brands.

There are many American online vendors that charge $20 for 120ml. If you think $60 is a good deal you might be part of the problem.
 

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There are many American online vendors that charge $20 for 120ml. If you think $60 is a good deal you might be part of the problem.

Every time I have tried the discount juices they taste only like perfume or have so much sweetener my mouth is sticky from vaping, or they just taste straight bad.
 

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Can you give me an example of a discount juice?
 

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heartland vapes .com has a 250 ml juice banana cream is the flavor i got and it was a good juice . 20 dollars for a 250 ml. 10 for shipping is that cheap enough for ya.
 

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I am guessing that allot of the high priced "Premium" Juice is being bought by new vapers that are not sub-ohming. I know when I started vaping I did not care about the cost of Juice because even the premium juice is way CHEAPER than cigarettes and I was not going through much juice with my ego. I just wanted a juice that helped keep me off cigarettes & did not care if it was expensive. Now that I have been vaping for 6 months (I know I am still a newb :D) and using a sub ohm tank the price of juice matters to me. I don't compare it to cigarettes anymore and I am constantly on the hunt for good cheap juice. Whos knows maybe in another 6 months I will be making DIY juice.
 

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Do it yourself is no doubt cheaper ! Can be as good or better in some cases than premium juice. A lot of people don't have time to make their own juice or simply don't understand it. There are good online vendors that when they run sales, a pretty good deal can be had on ready made and steeped premium juices. If you get the right deal and good customer service buying online is not bad in my opinion. We have over 100 brands of juice now. Can't possibly try or like them all. I don't do it yourself. I find myself even picking up steamjuiceus caramel cream. Perfect morning vape with coffee and could be had for about $20.00 for 120ml. Just that you have to steep it for like 2 weeks because it's made to order. That's the good thing with vaping. There's something and some way for everyone out there. To each his own is my thinking.
 

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One more thing ! Want to do it really cheap ? I was vaping straight VG at one of the shows. Made awesome pure white clouds and it tasted like sweet water ! That's the ultimate low bottom price lol. Have a great day as always !
 

backdoc

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Breazy, I'm impressed you made the comment about straight VG........your website sells mid to high priced juices to those who are inclined to buy them Yet you have the honesty to speak the truth regarding Pure VG.....you have my respect.........and quite possibly my business
 

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Breazy, I'm impressed you made the comment about straight VG........your website sells mid to high priced juices to those who are inclined to buy them Yet you have the honesty to speak the truth regarding Pure VG.....you have my respect.........and quite possibly my business
I am like you, Dr. They treated me well, even though we had a bump in the road, Andy fixed the problem immediately after emailing him about it. I got a response within minutes and I am looking to try different juices because I'm still fairly new to vaping. Breazy.com rocks!

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One more thing ! Want to do it really cheap ? I was vaping straight VG at one of the shows. Made awesome pure white clouds and it tasted like sweet water ! That's the ultimate low bottom price lol. Have a great day as always !

This has me thinking. I watch a lot of reviews from say rip. I can imagine he's being compensated for trying to sell rdas and mods. It never made sense to me how he'd had a fairly basic build on like 20 watts, blowing plumes of white thick vapor. I wonder do reviewers us straight vg for vids. I mean twisted does it a lot too. A short pull and plumes of vape
 

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This has me thinking. I watch a lot of reviews from say rip. I can imagine he's being compensated for trying to sell rdas and mods. It never made sense to me how he'd had a fairly basic build on like 20 watts, blowing plumes of white thick vapor. I wonder do reviewers us straight vg for vids. I mean twisted does it a lot too. A short pull and plumes of vape
People in cloud comps also use straight VG.
 

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