sigelei 150 or ipv4

slayer420-x · May 1, 2015

I have a ipv2.1 50 watt at the moment. But im considering getting a new box mod because im pretty well maxing the chip at 50 w which idk if thats good for it and also battery life is poor subohming rda's with single 18650. So im looking at a sig 150 or ipv4. There both about same price $100 here in canada.( i know there cheaper in the states but im not interested in the hassel & extra fees). The sigelei 150 looks to be more durable/better built. Also the the sigelei id get is black but shows white silicone case, i thought it comes with a black one? Is it a older or newer model that has white case

-=Rob=- · May 2, 2015

I'm researching getting one of those two also. The Sigelei seems to be a solid device. I don't know a lot about the IPV4 yet but am interested in it. I'll watch this thread and see how the comments go. I probably favor the Sigelei right now as I have two Sigelei's now and they have been problem free solid mods for me. I think all the 150's come with the white looking silicone cover now.

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thunderdan · May 2, 2015

FWIW, my sigelei 150W turned to junk after two months. Bought it in February, and its been unusable since early April.

I didn't even use it much and barely took it out of the house. Fire button started rattling after two weeks, then earlier this month the resistance started fluctuating all over the place.

I took it apart today to see if I could figure out what was wrong. Their "spring loaded" 510 solution is strange. Its literally a huge spring sandwiched between a floating 510 and the battery sled. Hopefully if I clean it all up, and put it back together it works better.

BoomStick · May 2, 2015

I wouldn't gamble on a new device with new tech. I'd get the Sigelei 150w.

st0nedpenguin · May 2, 2015

BoomStick said:
I wouldn't gamble on a new device with new tech. I'd get the Sigelei 150w.

The "new tech" is basically the next iteration of the chip used in the Sigelei.

thunderdan · May 2, 2015

st0nedpenguin said:
The "new tech" is basically the next iteration of the chip used in the Sigelei.

Maybe the plastic battery door is the "new tech" he was talking about.

BoomStick · May 2, 2015

I was talking about ipv's first attempt at temp control. Also, the ipv3, ipv4 and the sig 150 all use different chips.

st0nedpenguin · May 2, 2015

They're all using revisions of the SX330 chip.

BoomStick · May 2, 2015

st0nedpenguin said:
They're all using revisions of the SX330 chip.

So what? They're all different and the ipv4 uses a new chip with new tech. What is your point? The new hydrogen fuel cell corvette engine has to be good because all the previous internal combustion corvette engines were good?

st0nedpenguin · May 2, 2015

If the new Corvette engine functions exactly the same as the previous one but has bonus features then yeah, one would probably be safe to make the assumption it's going to be good.

martinelias · May 2, 2015

Get a hexohm. Its superior over sigelei by longshot. Never tried ipv so cant say if it destroys that too. But if the ipv series are whats being compares to the sigelei series moda than it probably does.

BUDKISS · May 2, 2015

You do know that YIHI and Sigelei and Pioneer4You are all owned by the same folks, right?

Mykline · May 2, 2015

I have had a Cloupor T8 150 watts for five months and not had any problems with it.

UncleRJ · May 2, 2015

Me, I would go with the Sigelei.

I own both the 100 Watt and the Mini 30 watt.

I love the build quality on both of them and they work perfect.

And yes, you can call me a fanboy

slayer420-x · May 2, 2015

Ya im leaning more towards a Sigelei. I have a ipv2.1 atm. Would the sigelei be alot bigger? Kinda seems huge. I sold my mvp2 so i want another backup mod, kinda wanted somthing small for when im out & about like an istick, but i think i should get a higher watt dual 18650 since i use rdas now

BoomStick · May 2, 2015

st0nedpenguin said:
If the new Corvette engine functions exactly the same as the previous one but has bonus features then yeah, one would probably be safe to make the assumption it's going to be good.

So the entire thing is completely new, but you assume it'll function exactly the same and be good at the first version huh? That's a hell of an assumption to make about a brand new product from china. Especially when the sx mini m class which is made by yihi and has temp control is proving they still need to work out several bugs. Even the Sigelei 100 took until the third version to get the features sorted without introducing a completely new tech. Your logic is weak.

Sorry everyone else. I'm done.

st0nedpenguin · May 2, 2015

BoomStick said:
So the entire thing is completely new, but you assume it'll function exactly the same and be good at the first version huh? That's a hell of an assumption to make about a brand new product from china. Especially when the sx mini m class which is made by yihi and has temp control is proving they still need to work out several bugs. Even the Sigelei 100 took until the third version to get the features sorted without introducing a completely new tech. Your logic is weak.

Sorry everyone else. I'm done.

So what you're basically saying is that buying any device from China is a gamble, so your original post was utterly pointless?

Okay then.

If you actually managed to comprehend anything you read you'd probably have come to the realization that the entire thing isn't completely new.

BoomStick · May 2, 2015

st0nedpenguin said:
So what you're basically saying is that buying any device from China is a gamble

Not any device. First generation devices with new tech. Pay attention.

st0nedpenguin said:
If you actually managed to comprehend anything you read you'd probably have come to the realization that the entire thing isn't completely new.

What, they keep the 510 connector? I'm done wasting my time arguing with idiots. Thread unwatched.

Maverik_X · May 2, 2015

slayer420-x said:
I have a ipv2.1 50 watt at the moment. But im considering getting a new box mod because im pretty well maxing the chip at 50 w which idk if thats good for it and also battery life is poor subohming rda's with single 18650. So im looking at a sig 150 or ipv4. There both about same price $100 here in canada.( i know there cheaper in the states but im not interested in the hassel & extra fees). The sigelei 150 looks to be more durable/better built. Also the the sigelei id get is black but shows white silicone case, i thought it comes with a black one? Is it a older or newer model that has white case

You must be looking at the Oni edition ones, cause my blue oni 150w came with a frosted clear one. my sig 100 watt came with al ight blue one my 100w plus came with a black one same with my reg 150w. Have had 0 issues with any of them. the sleeves are however interchangable with each other. you can order differen't colors for them for around a few bucks.
Only thing I'm not liking about my iPV4 is the mirrored screen its hard to see outside in daylight, inside its not to bad. Temp Control works and works good no burnt hits to speak of. iPV4 will be upgradable to 120 watts so if you worried about watts it packs a punch. and most bugs with the chip can be fixed with firmware update.
I personally never have nor do i see myself ever using more then 75 or 80 watts it's just to hot of a vape at that wattage. these are just my personal opinoins and will not be the same as everyone else. vape on

Maverik_X · May 2, 2015

BUDKISS said:
You do know that YIHI and Sigelei and Pioneer4You are all owned by the same folks, right?

close but its actually yihi owns 50% of p4u and the other 50% is owned by the same guy that owns sigelei. p4u is a joint venture between the two comapnies.

Maverik_X · May 2, 2015

slayer420-x said:
Ya im leaning more towards a Sigelei. I have a ipv2.1 atm. Would the sigelei be alot bigger? Kinda seems huge. I sold my mvp2 so i want another backup mod, kinda wanted somthing small for when im out & about like an istick, but i think i should get a higher watt dual 18650 since i use rdas now

Don't Buy Any Ismoka Isticks especially the 50w they have issues with auto firing and overcharging causing fires and so forth. if anything get a ipv mini 2 or sigelei vr50

Maverik_X · May 2, 2015

BoomStick said:
I was talking about ipv's first attempt at temp control. Also, the ipv3, ipv4 and the sig 150 all use different chips.

http://www.yihiecigar.com/products.html

st0nedpenguin · May 2, 2015

BoomStick said:
Not any device. First generation devices with new tech. Pay attention.

What, they keep the 510 connector? I'm done wasting my time arguing with idiots. Thread unwatched.

I rest my case.

You still haven't managed to comprehend the fact they all share a chip, the mind boggles.

BoomStick · May 3, 2015

You're a complete idiot. None of them use the same chip.

I guess the unwatch button is broke.

st0nedpenguin · May 3, 2015

SX330-V3S / SX330-V4S.

Much different.

Such wow.

thunderdan · May 3, 2015

BUDKISS said:
You do know that YIHI and Sigelei and Pioneer4You are all owned by the same folks, right?

Have any proof of that? I hear that all the time, but nobody has been able to provide any proof to me.

BUDKISS · May 3, 2015

I am fairly close to my P4Y rep. Came straight from the horses mouth. One of the reason the ipv4 was delayed was because YIHI didn't want them to use the same chip as the SX mini. SO they developed a new chip for them.

thunderdan · May 3, 2015

Oh, ok.

slayer420-x · May 3, 2015

So will a sig or even ipv4 be alot bigger then my ipv2.1? I heard sigelei's are huge. Also i'll need a charger, i just charge my ipv2 through usb. So i figure a dual bay would be better to get then a single. I dont wanna spend alot on a charger. I was going to get a efest soda dual bay charger, its only like $13. Will the soda dual bay be ok? And for batteries, would samsung 25 R inr18650 be good, i can get them for 6.95 each, or would efests be better?

thunderdan · May 3, 2015

To me I dont find the sig150w much larger than my ipv2x. I can try taking a pic if you want a side by side comparison.

25Rs are good. I don't know about that charger.

Fictitious Character · May 3, 2015

slayer420-x said:
So will a sig or even ipv4 be alot bigger then my ipv2.1? I heard sigelei's are huge. Also i'll need a charger, i just charge my ipv2 through usb. So i figure a dual bay would be better to get then a single. I dont wanna spend alot on a charger. I was going to get a efest soda dual bay charger, its only like $13. Will the soda dual bay be ok? And for batteries, would samsung 25 R inr18650 be good, i can get them for 6.95 each, or would efests be better?

I would spring for a little bit better charger. If you want a two bay I would say buy the Efest Luc v2 and your batts at Lightning Vapes and use the code OHMSWEETOHM for 17% off your total order. The charger comes to under 20 bucks with the discount and the batts come out to 6.64 after the discount and they ship free.

slayer420-x · May 3, 2015

Yea a pic would be nice thunderdan. Thanks fictitious character but im Canadian & will be ordering from here. I think the luc 2 is bout $25. You think itd be better to go with that one?

slayer420-x · May 3, 2015

It's actually the efest Luc S2 here for $25, not the V2 Is the soda 2 bay no good?

Fictitious Character · May 3, 2015

slayer420-x said:
Yea a pic would be nice thunderdan. Thanks fictitious character but im Canadian & will be ordering from here. I think the luc 2 is bout $25. You think itd be better to go with that one?

Doh. You Canadian's are always getting screwed on the deals jk lol.

I do think the Luc is better. I consider the Luc and Xtar to be the better chargers for our purposes.

Fictitious Character · May 3, 2015

slayer420-x said:
It's actually the efest Luc S2 here for $25, not the V2 Is the soda 2 bay no good?

The Soda would probably serve you fine. I just find the Luc and the Xtar brings more to the table, you can set your charging rate and bring back over discharged batts.

I never seen the Luc s2 before looks pretty similar to the v2 in features just different looking.

slayer420-x · May 3, 2015

Yeah im jelous of the cheap vape goods you guys get lol. Theres actually a D2 nitecore universal smart 2 slot charger thats same price as Luc s2. They both have lcd screens

Fictitious Character · May 3, 2015

slayer420-x said:
Yeah im jelous of the cheap vape goods you guys get lol. Theres actually a D2 nitecore universal smart 2 slot charger thats same price as Luc s2. They both have lcd screens

The D2 will work well too I don't know if you can set the charging rate on them, and I don't know if they will bring batts back though. I still think the Luc's and Xtars are better, but I have an Nitecore i4 that never let me down. If you were state side I could link you a place to get the D2 for 13.99

st0nedpenguin · May 3, 2015

BUDKISS said:
I am fairly close to my P4Y rep. Came straight from the horses mouth. One of the reason the ipv4 was delayed was because YIHI didn't want them to use the same chip as the SX mini. SO they developed a new chip for them.

That doesn't really make much sense though when an SX350 chip retails for almost as much as the IPV4 itself. P4U have been making cutdown chips for P4U to use for a while now.

Fictitious Character · May 3, 2015

BUDKISS said:
I am fairly close to my P4Y rep. Came straight from the horses mouth. One of the reason the ipv4 was delayed was because YIHI didn't want them to use the same chip as the SX mini. SO they developed a new chip for them.

I think the email that Vapor Tek sent out rings closer to the truth. They said that Yihi delayed the shipment of the ipv4 board until after the release of Yihi's SX M so that the flagship mod hit the market first.

Cloudy Peak Vapes · May 5, 2015

Fictitious Character said:
I think the email that Vapor Tek sent out rings closer to the truth. They said that Yihi delayed the shipment of the ipv4 board until after the release of Yihi's SX M so that the flagship mod hit the market first.

I also read somewhere, been doing a lot of iPV4 reading lately so I'm not sure if it was here or elsewhere. Anyway, apparently the initial battery sleeve/taco, whatever, was a metal piece. It was scratching the device, so they re did it in plastic. I think the initial prototypes had the metal sleeve. I don't doubt that stuff about YIHI, either. I'm fine with it, it gave them more time to test the product, and make some modifications. That makes adopting early more palatable to me.

thunderdan · May 7, 2015

slayer420-x said:
Yea a pic would be nice thunderdan. Thanks fictitious character but im Canadian & will be ordering from here. I think the luc 2 is bout $25. You think itd be better to go with that one?

http://imgur.com/a/yFHNh

Dan DePippo · May 7, 2015

Fictitious Character said:
I think the email that Vapor Tek sent out rings closer to the truth. They said that Yihi delayed the shipment of the ipv4 board until after the release of Yihi's SX M so that the flagship mod hit the market first.

I also think the delay was chip related as they converted the sx330 to temp controlled. I like the fact they used the 330 as it already goes to 150w on the ipv3 so upgrade for ipv4 must already be done.

As for Sig or ipv4 I debated on this and went with ipv because of temp control which I may or may not use but at least I have the choice.

modvapa50w · Sep 26, 2015

slayer420-x said:
Ya im leaning more towards a Sigelei. I have a ipv2.1 atm. Would the sigelei be alot bigger? Kinda seems huge. I sold my mvp2 so i want another backup mod, kinda wanted somthing small for when im out & about like an istick, but i think i should get a higher watt dual 18650 since i use rdas now

If you are looking for a great small adjustable watt sub ihm device ..the Modvapa MK1 is excellent, i use this as my everday vaper, cost effectice.3~50watts, i run a to ecco suoer mi.i top fill tank that has dual .5 verical atlantis v2 coils..never had to run it past 40watts, fill with a 50/50blend of 6 nic...has usb carger and sony. 18650 batt, ran my kanger sub tank with .5 coil on i t for awhile..but hate turning my devices upside down to lose juice.
However my other device is a segelei 150w tc...with SMOK TFV4..another great top fill..vut do.t run it past 75w..just no need, not a cloud comp'er..run the quad coils in the tank..and it fits well in the hand its smaller than online pics make it seem, but suvgest you have 4 batts..2 to run 2 charging and marry the sets ..A set...B set...so your not usin the same batt over and over.
Unless you ha e sony, panasonic, LG Or samsung youre batts are re-wraps.,meaning a grade lower than A that doesnt meet the top 4 quality srandards...just a fyl

slayer420-x · Sep 27, 2015

I ended up getting a sigelei 150 ive had few months now & Very happy with it, glad I didnt go with ipv4.

conanthewarrior · Sep 27, 2015

I had to make this choice yesterday myself. I decided to go with the new Sig 150TC, I own the old 150W, but actually quite like the angular lines, the material seems durable, the YIHI chip (I know the old one was YIHI too, but an updated one) made me choose the Sig150TC.

I didn't do much research on the IPV 4 or 4S (Same price here in the UK, one a hundred watts the plus is 120) But as I own quite a few Sigelei devices and know they are solid, I went for it.

I got that as the Sig 75TC was not really as impressive as I hoped for, and I do prefer the IPV d2 out of them both for TC. For out and about I use the sigelei 75W in power mode, or the D2 with the workaround at 20-25 watts with a tank, perfect take out vapes, but I also got a super cheap mod called the smowell that I have now been taking out, as if it gets damaged I will not be bothered.

But, if I want TC out and about, I will use the IPV D2, and the 150TC for when I know I need long battery life.

I personally would go for the Sig, due to P4U's past mishaps, plus the D2 needing a workaround for low wattage firing, I went for the Sig as I doubt there will be any bugs like that in the Sigelei. Not that its a major issue, and the workaround is a piece of cake, but I just would like the power mode to work fully, and not have to use TC mode with kanthal, Overriding the TC and adjusting joules instead of watts. But, remember the chinese did mess up, and they did not convert joules, they just renamed the watt to joules, so 1 joule=1 watt so for 20 watts, I select 20 joules.

conanthewarrior · Sep 27, 2015

slayer420-x said:
I ended up getting a sigelei 150 ive had few months now & Very happy with it, glad I didnt go with ipv4.

Thats good to hear. This will be my second high wattage TC device, my other being the Xcube 2 160W. That does TC like a dream, and you don't actually select wattage in TC mode, it does it itself, you just set the temp, and when I connect it via bluetooth to my phone to see what its doing,

It generally fires up for a second or so at 60+ watts, then drops to around 10-20 to maintain a smooth TC experience. I find that and my D2 to work the best TC, am hoping the same with the Sigelei, as I am not a full TC convert yet, my tanks are still set to kanthal, but I have a couple of drippers for TC. (Note, the Sig 75 does work in TC mode, I just feel/find for me personally the IPV D2 and the Xcube 2 do it a bit better, and I really like the fact you can adjust coefficient yourself on the Xcube 2).

Wingsfan0310 · Sep 27, 2015

If I was comparing a PFU mod to the Sig 150 TC, it would be the IPV3 Li, not the IPV4S (the 3 Li and 150 TC are both brands top of the line imo, until the Sig 200 TC is released). My 3Li has been a workhorse, 200 watts and built like a tank. User upgradeable. I'm hoping for a SS TC upgrade but not holding my breath. Since it is upgradeable, at least there is a chance, however slim it may be.

conanthewarrior · Sep 27, 2015

Wingsfan0310 said:
If I was comparing a PFU mod to the Sig 150 TC, it would be the IPV3 Li, not the IPV4S (the 3 Li and 150 TC are both brands top of the line imo, until the Sig 200 TC is released). My 3Li has been a workhorse, 200 watts and built like a tank. User upgradeable. I'm hoping for a SS TC upgrade but not holding my breath. Since it is upgradeable, at least there is a chance, however slim it may be.

That is very true. I felt like 150 Watts was more than enough for me personally, and grew to like its strange design, thats the main reason I went for the Sig over the IPV 3 LI. Plus it was cheaper by £20 lol.

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