SO is it me or what

I was just thinking

that box mods started out as just that. along the way we have had many slight change sin teh traditional box mod. We have the C shaped mods to the flask to the lovely looking deviate mod. we could make the mods look like just about anything we want.

But manufacturers keep going back to that basic rectangular shape.

look at the new sig 200, the sig 75, the 3li , the asolo, etc etc etc

when you look at the shape is it me or doe sit remind you of a pack of cigarettes?

So do they keep that basic cigarette pack shape to help us out psychologically. Like we see something thats the basic shape of a cigarette pack and we feel comfortable with that, and we are subconsciously drawn to it for that reason?

Or is it just easier to manufacturer rectangles? and noone has put that much thought into the psychological proess of the shape on ex smokers

I think that the shape is easier. Many people use pre-made project boxes like Hammond boxes for instance. Anything you do that is unique or any change in shape that in any way adds to the process adds to the price.

I could see some validity in that theory. I always assumed it was because boxes are easier to grip and they provide a bigger space inside to work with. Putting a sled and wiring in a tube can be tricky depending on the size. (not that tiny boxes couldn't be...)

I like the box mods. The smaller ones. They fit comfortably in my hand, super functional, easy to carry around, or toss in my purse. My egos, though slender, stuck out of pockets, stuck out of my purse, dropped them numerous times... the only one I've had that kind of resembled a pack of smokes was my MVP2. But, really, I don't "see" a pack of cigs when I look at these. I see my mod/ecig/pv.

Huckleberried said:

I don't "see" a pack of cigs when I look at these. I see my mod/ecig/pv.

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I'm with you there, I dont see it either.

i dont see a pack a cigarettes either.

but is the reason we like these box mods and manufacturers keep going back to the traditional rectanglular shape because of some deep seeded psychological feeling we get from that size and shape and how it relates to a pack of cigarettes.

I myself prefer the feel of say a d2 in my hands but i keep reaching for 3li...its wierd

I want the dual 18650 foot long stick mod with led lights so between vapeing i can play with my lightsaber. (the one that lights up)

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I like the smaller box mods, and I wish they would come out with some new tube types , I did kinda like some of my tube mech's for carrying but VV for me is where its at

Whiskey said:

I like the smaller box mods, and I wish they would come out with some new tube types , I did kinda like some of my tube mech's for carrying but VV for me is where its at

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They really should come up with some tube style Li-po mods. 22mm, regulated with a curved OLED screen, USB charging. Look at the Vapor Shark DNA 200, a think a little clever engineering could get that box into a pretty tight tube.


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there are those expensive german made tube ones. I cant think of their name. someone who reads this will know which ones i mean and post it

Mattp169 said:

i dont see a pack a cigarettes either.

but is the reason we like these box mods and manufacturers keep going back to the traditional rectanglular shape because of some deep seeded psychological feeling we get from that size and shape and how it relates to a pack of cigarettes.

I myself prefer the feel of say a d2 in my hands but i keep reaching for 3li...its wierd

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Just for the record, I would like to confess. Most packs of cigarettes feel like I'm carrying a brick in my pants pocket. So the box mod just made sense. Now if I could find a lighter one, I would carry it in my shirt pocket like a pack of cigarettes also.

Haha, maybe, though honestly, I don't find anything about a pack of cigarettes appealing. Even when I was still making the switch, I thought that box mods looked kinda funky and cumbersome. There's nothing even remotely cigarette-like about smoking out of a box .

Back when I got my first DNA30 box, I was annoyed at how it felt in my pocket and how much space it took up, though now that I think about it, it did feel somehow "right" to hold.

I think that's just a matter of ergonomics. If you think about the shape of your hand, it makes sense that a box would be more comfortable to hold. The large, flat surfaces facilitate a more stable grip that demands less pressure. Fewer muscles are used to hold onto it than something with a tube shape. I've got a mech that I barely use because my hand cramps just from holding it and the repeated action of pressing the button.

It's an interesting observation and speculation on your part, though. I must admit, I struggled with the fact that my ego/1st-gen-clearo setup didn't look or feel at all like a cigarette, so I can see there being some reality to the mental association with boxes and cigarette packs. However, I think it's pretty far-fetched to suggest that it's been a major contributing factor to the prevalence of boxes and the widespread preference for their form[factor.] Range of features, comfort, aesthetic and practicality come to mind as more significant factors.

It's also possible that it's a product of vaping culture. Box mods are generally considered to be superior in some ways, possibly because they originally took hold in a time when vaping was still in its infancy and represented something completely new and far more advanced. Perhaps that's where some of the positive association stems from, now. Regulated tube mods are "dated" and "out of fashion." This may be to blame for the perception that boxes provide a more satisfying experience.

With that in mind, you could also look at it as having come full-circle. Boxes are now so prominent that people simply trust them more because of their legacy and reputation as being a top choice for vapers of all levels of experience. The fact that they're well-established as top-shelf devices may have a galvanizing effect on one's perception of owning and using one.

Another problem I see with this theory is that it neglects to acknowledge that not all vapers were ever cigarette smokers and yet, some still prefer box mods. What about cigar smokers and dip-chewers? What about pipe users and hand-rollers?

You have to be careful going the psychological route when explaining things like this. It is easy to make connections and form a detailed, logical explanations of human thought patterns and behavior, but the reality behind it can be so far from that as to eschew practicality. This is where Frued went wrong. Although a lot of his ideas about the mind made perfect sense and seemed to explain everything, his approach proved largely unreliable when put into practice.

I don't think this one looks at all like a pack of cigarrettes



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I don't think this one looks at all like a pack of cigarrettes

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It sure doesn't.

Rectangular mods are simple to design manufacture and assemble. I thinks that's why most mods are rectangular. I don't see any connection to a pack of cigarettes.

As for ergonomic mods, I love my Wismec Presa 40 Watt. Its small enough that it almost feels like a tube mod in your hand.

The idea that there is a connection to a pack of cigarettes is just silly. It's a matter of simple ergonomics and design. You need something that fits in the hand and will hold a battery or two. A cylindrical tube or a box are the two most efficient shapes.

There are some very underrated tube devices out at the moment IMHO, I just 2 and ego one. Only used the ijust2 but I believe the batteries are very similar. Even for a mechanical type mod I really like it, with the right resistance coil for the power, kinda like Im guessing mechs are. And the funky expensive German company that makes temp tubes is called dicodes. Also saw something called a little boy on fast tech that is like a 26650 vamo type thing, freaking huge.

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I prefer the feel of a glass or wood drip tip over a metal once because they emulate the feel of a cig, same for chuff tips. Now as far as the cigarette box comparison, how many times have you held the pack whilst smoking? I understand exactly what you are saying, and it took a level of intelligence to theorize that some people lack yet i still disagree.

I just see yet another box, nothing unique, cool, stylish, not ergonomic.
Where as an Istick 20,30,40,60, coolfire4, subox, Defender, egrip, to name a few all have their own look, are stylish and unique in their design, plus not a bunch of square edges that don't fit well in the hand.
But that's JMO

Mattp169 said:

I was just thinking

that box mods started out as just that. along the way we have had many slight change sin teh traditional box mod. We have the C shaped mods to the flask to the lovely looking deviate mod. we could make the mods look like just about anything we want.

But manufacturers keep going back to that basic rectangular shape.

look at the new sig 200, the sig 75, the 3li , the asolo, etc etc etc

when you look at the shape is it me or doe sit remind you of a pack of cigarettes?

So do they keep that basic cigarette pack shape to help us out psychologically. Like we see something thats the basic shape of a cigarette pack and we feel comfortable with that, and we are subconsciously drawn to it for that reason?

Or is it just easier to manufacturer rectangles? and noone has put that much thought into the psychological proess of the shape on ex smokers

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I don't know if the whole cig-box thing was intentional, but I sure do like your intuitive line of thinking... Just as vaping very much replicates smoking by delivering nicotine to the body via the lungs, the vision of a box that looks just about like a pack of cigs could be comforting to smokers as well.

That said, when you have a pack of cigarettes in your hand, you don't put your mouth on the top of it and start inhaling .

So, the only weakness in your hypothesis is that the manual motor skill required to vape a box mod is considerably different than holding a cigarette. But to reiterate, I like your train of thought. Perhaps it was a fortunate accident (serendipity?) that many box mods are about the size of a box of smokes.