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Not Getting Good Flavor or Sweet Taste--HELP

arrowcrest

Member For 4 Years
I have just recently bought 2 Temp Control Mod boxes , a IPV4S and a Sigelei 75 Watt , I have the New Crown tanks on both. One tank has the factory Ni 200 coil and the other I built a .13 coil for there RBA. Both have weak or poor flavor and I don't taste sweetness in either. I am using Kringles Curse ,That I make so I know how it should taste. I had been using a SMOK 15 watt with a Aspire Nautilus and there 1.8 ohm coils.
I keep seeing all the reviews on You Tube and they keep saying " Great Flavor and Vapor " but I'm not getting close to Great. I even tried a couple store bought Flavors and got the same thing. I mix my juice at 40PG/60VG and 30PG/70VG. Both of those ratios worked fine in the cheaper non-temp controlled SMOK.
What am I doing WRONG!!!
Thanks for reading -- Hope to get Problem solved
 

Jimi D

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No matter how much I adjusted TC. The flavor was muted compared to good ol simple wattage. It seems that TC just vaporizes the juice too fast. My TC usage was short lived. Flavor over a dry hit is more important to me. Hopefully some TC experts will chime in and help.
 

arrowcrest

Member For 4 Years
No matter how much I adjusted TC. The flavor was muted compared to good ol simple wattage. It seems that TC just vaporizes the juice too fast. My TC usage was short lived. Flavor over a dry hit is more important to me. Hopefully some TC experts will chime in and help.
Thanks for reading. I hope I get several opinions.
 

Neunerball

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Bump up the temperature and Jules/Watt. Temperature for more vapor, thus more flavor. Power for shorter heat up time of the coils. Adjust until you find the sweet spot.
 

AmandaD

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Member For 4 Years
Bump up the temperature and Jules/Watt. Temperature for more vapor, thus more flavor. Power for shorter heat up time of the coils. Adjust until you find the sweet spot.
Bump up the temperature and Jules/Watt. Temperature for more vapor, thus more flavor. Power for shorter heat up time of the coils. Adjust until you find the sweet spot.
I agree! I ran those coils around 60 watts at 525F. I still prefer the regular SS Crown coils over the Ni200 coils, but you should be getting much more flavor than you are!

What did you build the .13 coil with - nickel?
 

ironman

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Member For 4 Years
Try a twisted 30ga 10 wraps. Try not to stuff your cotton other wise it won't work properly. I'm having awesome flavor and clouds with mine.
 

arrowcrest

Member For 4 Years
I agree! I ran those coils around 60 watts at 525F. I still prefer the regular SS Crown coils over the Ni200 coils, but you should be getting much more flavor than you are!

What did you build the .13 coil with - nickel?
Ni200
 

arrowcrest

Member For 4 Years
Bump up the temperature and Jules/Watt. Temperature for more vapor, thus more flavor. Power for shorter heat up time of the coils. Adjust until you find the sweet spot.
I'm getting good vapor. I have the iPV 4S set at 30 Jules , temp at 370 degrees
 

ironman

Bronze Contributor
Member For 4 Years
I'll try that. Do you keep your windings spaced? I ask because of RBA limited room.
No they are micro coils.
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AmandaD

Platinum Contributor
Member For 4 Years
I'm getting good vapor. I have the iPV 4S set at 30 Jules , temp at 370 degrees
Nothing like enough for those coils in my experience. Try bumping it up to at least 50J and 525F and see if you get more flavor (I'm sure you will)!

375F isn't enough for get any flavor out of any TC coils - that I've tried anyway.
 

AmandaD

Platinum Contributor
Member For 4 Years
And what defines a coil as "micro".

It used to mean very small diameter coils - like 1.5mm. Also nickel coils are more commonly spaced, due to the fact you can't heat them to compress and are more likely to get hot spots. Titanium coils work fine as contact coils.
 

ironman

Bronze Contributor
Member For 4 Years
Nothing like enough for those coils in my experience. Try bumping it up to at least 50J and 525F and see if you get more flavor (I'm sure you will)!

375F isn't enough for get any flavor out of any TC coils - that I've tried anyway.
I agree. I kick it to 500 but let it at 35-50 dependin on the juice
 

arrowcrest

Member For 4 Years
Nothing like enough for those coils in my experience. Try bumping it up to at least 50J and 525F and see if you get more flavor (I'm sure you will)!

375F isn't enough for get any flavor out of any TC coils - that I've tried anyway.
I kind of understand , but what if higher temp feels to hot to my throat?
 

arrowcrest

Member For 4 Years
It used to mean very small diameter coils - like 1.5mm. Also nickel coils are more commonly spaced, due to the fact you can't heat them to compress and are more likely to get hot spots. Titanium coils work fine as contact coils.
So do you use Titanium for your coils and do you think most people do?
 

arrowcrest

Member For 4 Years
It used to mean very small diameter coils - like 1.5mm. Also nickel coils are more commonly spaced, due to the fact you can't heat them to compress and are more likely to get hot spots. Titanium coils work fine as contact coils.
What is , if there is one , the better size diameter coil for temp controlled coils?
 

AmandaD

Platinum Contributor
Member For 4 Years
What is , if there is one , the better size diameter coil for temp controlled coils?

I make mine somewhere between 2.5mm-3mm, depending what fits!

I think there is likely an equal split between people who use Ni200 and people who use Ti. I simply use Ti because it's easier to work with, but Ni200 is also popular, although it has to be spaced since it can't be pulsed to get out any hot spots.
 

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