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I am new to diy eliquid but am a very experienced vaper and was wanting to try the diy eliquid to save money! I need to know how much flavor concentrate to add to the bottle. Or how much flavor concentrate per ounce of pg! If you can help please do so!


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jap1988 said:
I am new to diy eliquid but am a very experienced vaper and was wanting to try the diy eliquid to save money! I need to know how much flavor concentrate to add to the bottle. Or how much flavor concentrate per ounce of pg! If you can help please do so!


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There is no single answer to your question. It depends entirely on many different things:

1. Which flavor or blend of flavors you're using
2. Which brands of a given flavor you're using
3. Whether you're using PG, VG or a blend of PG and VG - and if it's a blend, what is the ratio?
4. What flavor profile you're going for (e.g. Dessert, fruit, tobacco, etc.)

I've been mixing for a long time now and there are a few things I've found to be fairly consistent:

- in *most* cases, single-flavor mixes aren't that great - typically a blend of flavors is going to make a much better liquid
- 100% PG is not nearly as good (IMO) than a VG/PGblend or (as I prefer) max VG.

As to your original question, the percentages of flavors in a given mix can range from 0.15% to over 20 to 25%! It FULLY depends on the particular flavor and blend. I personally have no single flavor recipes. All of my recipes vary from about ~5% total flavor all the way to ~22-23% total flavor. All of my recipes have 3-4 or more flavors - in fact, most of them have more than 5 (I have a few that over 15!).

Also, it is very common to use different percentages of the same flavor for different flavor profiles. For example, I have a butte cookie custard flavor where I mix in one of my custard flavors at ~4% - whereas I have a more traditional vanilla custard flavor where I use the same custard flavor at 7.5% (and still other mixes where I use it at under 2%...as an accent flavor). Now, those recipes work with *THAT PARTICULAR* custard flavor at those percentages - now if I were to use a different vendor's custard flavor, the percentages would be completely different.

One last thing to note - in a lot of mixes (ALL of my mixes) using 'finishers' (sweeteners, smoothers, bitters, sours, spices, etc.) is what makes a 'good' liquid a *great* liquid.

I could go on and on and on - I guess what I'm trying to illustrate is that, there really is no answer to your question in all honesty (sorry) and that DIY is a very deep and intricate subject and (almost 2 years later) I'm still learning more every day! Perhaps if you'd elaborate on exactly what you already have and what you're going for, we can possibly help guide you there.
 
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Start with 5ml, add a few drops. Calculate the percentages. You'll have to use math :eek::eek::eek:

or use one of the many eliquid calcs online.
 
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jap1988 said:
I am new to diy eliquid but am a very experienced vaper and was wanting to try the diy eliquid to save money! I need to know how much flavor concentrate to add to the bottle. Or how much flavor concentrate per ounce of pg! If you can help please do so!


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These forums contain a wealth of information from credited and vetted sources to spend tons and tons of time instructing others who don't care enough to bother to read it. Why not read some of the tutorials or watch some of the videos about DIY?? I hope this helps because the question you asked has no real answer other than you need to read up.
 
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jap1988 said:
I am new to diy eliquid but am a very experienced vaper and was wanting to try the diy eliquid to save money! I need to know how much flavor concentrate to add to the bottle. Or how much flavor concentrate per ounce of pg! If you can help please do so!


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You should read up more about DIY on the forums here, much more info.
You really don't want to mix the whole 128ml of PG with one flavor, it might be terrible...
Get some 10-15ml bottles to make small samples to test with first, until you find something you like.
Download an Ejuice Calculator like Ejuicemeup.
 
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define experienced vaper !!!

you are planing on making an entire GALLON of juice ?!?! whadda fug ?? if you vaped just that one mix and in a cloud chaser aty you'd be vaping it for at a good 6 months or so ..you really need to reconsider this concept
 
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exodus said:
define experienced vaper !!!

you are planing on making an entire GALLON of juice ?!?! whadda fug ?? if you vaped just that one mix and in a cloud chaser aty you'd be vaping it for at a good 6 months or so ..you really need to reconsider this concept
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Nope @exodus he's not making juice. His vast experience tells him to vape pg with flavoring. I'm not sure what the hell that is but it ain't juice. Skeeeery....
 
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ok but whats your point ??
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If there was a point to be made, it was just a silly comment like yours.
I don't think the industry standard for "juice" is considered PG+Flavoring.
Don't think I know anyone, DIY or Commercial, that makes juice like that.
Obviously the OP needs to do lots more research before jumping in.
 
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If there was a point to be made, it was just a silly comment like yours.
I don't think the industry standard for "juice" is considered PG+Flavoring.
Don't think I know anyone, DIY or Commercial, that makes juice like that.
Obviously the OP needs to do lots more research before jumping in.
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and that shows your noobness to vaping !! in the beginning there was no VG ,just PG + flavoring and nic..and there are still juicers making that type of juice too
 
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exodus said:
and that shows your noobness to vaping !! in the beginning there was no VG ,just PG + flavoring and nic..and there are still juicers making that type of juice too
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In the beginning, there was also no fire but look what happened while you were playing world of warcraft! Juice can be considered, by definition anything That fuels an electronic cigarette. That could be kerosene or gasoline for a hardcore online vaping professional like you. But, since the industry standard changed for the most part, to using vg/pg, the rest of us who aren't real "students of the craft" or "purveyors of the industry" like you Exodus, can take the easy way out.

To your meaningless comment above as to who I am. .. I'm just someone who shares on forums, not claiming to be an authority or source to anything. I didn't yank your chain, or say anything to provoke your childish bullshit. Until you sport tags by your name that indicate more than the vast majority of us here, I guess you're pretty much a ??? Also.

Have a swell day and get outside a little. The world changed a little.
 
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I think I still have some of that pg only chinese juice... horrible is an understatement..
The smell alone is enough to induce a gag response, consider vaping it might actually make me puke..
SO glad we have progressed BEYOND that.
 
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talonz said:
In the beginning, there was also no fire but look what happened while you were playing world of warcraft! Juice can be considered, by definition anything That fuels an electronic cigarette. That could be kerosene or gasoline for a hardcore online vaping professional like you. But, since the industry standard changed for the most part, to using vg/pg, the rest of us who aren't real "students of the craft" or "purveyors of the industry" like you Exodus, can take the easy way out.

To your meaningless comment above as to who I am. .. I'm just someone who shares on forums, not claiming to be an authority or source to anything. I didn't yank your chain, or say anything to provoke your childish bullshit. Until you sport tags by your name that indicate more than the vast majority of us here, I guess you're pretty much a ??? Also.

Have a swell day and get outside a little. The world changed a little.
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thats another one of those blah blah blah posts
 
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exodus said:
and that shows your noobness to vaping !! in the beginning there was no VG ,just PG + flavoring and nic..and there are still juicers making that type of juice too
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My apologies then...
Thanks for the History lesson, as I actually learned something new.
And yes I'm still a noob at only 2 years with still much to learn.
Surprised to hear people still use that method tho cause I've never heard about it.
Just glad I didn't have to go through that learning curve too.
 
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My apologies then...
Thanks for the History lesson, as I actually learned something new.
And yes I'm still a noob at only 2 years with still much to learn.
Surprised to hear people still use that method tho cause I've never heard about it.
Just glad I didn't have to go through that learning curve too.
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Some are sensitive to vg, or coconut or soy... some vg is derived from those also.
Others just do not know.
Others do not care.
 
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BigNasty said:
Some are sensitive to vg, or coconut or soy... some vg is derived from those also.
Others just do not know.
Others do not care.
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I switched to the VG made from Coconuts cause I didn't like the idea of using the GMO Soy.
Don't know if I can tell the difference in taste, it just makes me feel better mentally if I can avoid GMO in something:D.
 
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I switched to the VG made from Coconuts cause I didn't like the idea of using the GMO Soy.
Don't know if I can tell the difference in taste, it just makes me feel better mentally if I can avoid GMO in something:D.
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Soy sensitive here so I use palm based or coconut based vg.
Quality is not subjective, I found my go to supplier if I feel like making a trip if not then I will order it.
 
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Soy sensitive here so I use palm based or coconut based vg.
Quality is not subjective, I found my go to supplier if I feel like making a trip if not then I will order it.
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That would be a pain to find out after you just bought a gallon of the Soy based VG.
Luckily I don't have allergies to any of this stuff so far.
I've heard of the palm based but haven't tried any yet.
 
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That would be a pain to find out after you just bought a gallon of the Soy based VG.
Luckily I don't have allergies to any of this stuff so far.
I've heard of the palm based but haven't tried any yet.
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I use palm based, just went the middle ground route.
 
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BigNasty said:
I think I still have some of that pg only chinese juice... horrible is an understatement..
The smell alone is enough to induce a gag response, consider vaping it might actually make me puke..
SO glad we have progressed BEYOND that.
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I have some 0% 100%PG "Heavenly" Vanilla e-juice (Theravape), it's supposed to taste like vanilla ice cream.

I can definitely say that it tastes like unwashed ass.
 
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I love the GMO comments. Do you guys eat free range (code for: we use a bigger cage) eggs?
 
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I love the GMO comments. Do you guys eat free range (code for: we use a bigger cage) eggs?
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Free Range does not = bigger cages or they're not really free range are they?
I've had fresh eggs from a local farmer, not free range, that were much better tasting with bigger yokes that didn't break so easily.
No chemicals used like steroids and such, but still being fed with GMO grains and other things, (chickens will eat almost anything, like pigs):D.
But they do get to go outside in the summer to eat bugs and such, so, a bigger cage I suppose, but still not really free range.

Cost is quite high to buy totally organic these days, unless you DIY organic farming, home canning, and livestock keeping.
And that's an awful lot of work, time, and cost too.

But for vaping, the non-GMO Palm/Coconut VG is comparable in cost to the GMO Soy VG, well it's slightly higher but no overly so.
It's just one of the few things left in our lives that we still have some control over, for now.
 
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I have some 0% 100%PG "Heavenly" Vanilla e-juice (Theravape), it's supposed to taste like vanilla ice cream.

I can definitely say that it tastes like unwashed ass.
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So then it's safe to assume you have tasted unwashed asses.

Profound!
 
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jap1988 said:
I am new to diy eliquid but am a very experienced vaper and was wanting to try the diy eliquid to save money! I need to know how much flavor concentrate to add to the bottle. Or how much flavor concentrate per ounce of pg! If you can help please do so!


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64 ounces should do the trick.

I'd use bacon or crab flavorings.
 
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