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Hey guys kinda new to the building but I recently bought pre made Claptons and love the flavor i have duel Claptons on Atty cubed its awesome but the heat up sooo slow I would like to build something so they heat up faster thanks

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Hey guys kinda new to the building but I recently bought pre made Claptons and love the flavor i have duel Claptons on Atty cubed its awesome but the heat up sooo slow I would like to build something so they heat up faster thanks

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Diameter should be smaller
And yes they CLAPTONS are AMP KILLER MAKE SURE AUR USING A REGULATED BOX MOD OR MAKE sure you know ur battery capabilities aight ...
I'm using
22g BASE
32g OUTER N.80
5/6 wraps on a 2 diameter...
you will have to practice and practice until you get it...
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Villagedavis

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I have them in a sigelei 75w and i run it on 60 and yea it takes a long time to heat up and kills my battery. Does your take a long time to heat upuploadfromtaptalk1449027313226.jpg

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You can either make a smaller diameter coil, or use a lower resistance wire like he's using (Nichrome80) use a thicker core wire Or pick up a regulated device like a Sigelei and adjust your wattage to your liking.

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That Sigelei 75W is very bad for battery life - mine cuts off at 3.8 at highish wattage!
 

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That Sigelei 75W is very bad for battery life - mine cuts off at 3.8 at highish wattage!
Mine will barely run my Hercules temp for a couple hours but I have a ipv 4s but I use my smok tank on it

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I would suggest using Nichrome. People having issues with claptons ramping up on even their mech mods have switched to Nichrome from kanthal and seen faster ramp up time.

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Try a regular Clapton for now, and yes they are battery destroyer
If you don't want double battery mods, consider getting a 26650 box regulated mod. That Sigelei will not handle it properly bro... Too much for a single 18650 box mod


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I would suggest using Nichrome. People having issues with claptons ramping up on even their mech mods have switched to Nichrome from kanthal and seen faster ramp up time.

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Do i use all nichrome core and outside wrap?

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I would suggest 24g Nichrome80 core, 32, 34, or 36g Kanthal on the outside. 2mm diameter

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Claptons are nice coils. I'd love to give them another go, but I only have thick wire .-. So 24g/28g Nichrome helix coils it has been for awhile lol

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Claptons are nice coils. I'd love to give them another go, but I only have thick wire .-. So 24g/28g Nichrome helix coils it has been for awhile lol

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Yes these are very tasty just gotta build so they heat up faster i ll have to get me some nichrome 80

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Try a regular Clapton for now, and yes they are battery destroyer
If you don't want double battery mods, consider getting a 26650 box regulated mod. That Sigelei will not handle it properly bro... Too much for a single 18650 box mod


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I have a ipv 4s but I run my smok tank on it so I have been looking at the snow wolf 200w. Any recommendations i like double battery mods lll

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Helix coils are also nice coils. One of my go to's. Its 24g twisted with 28g twisted into the grooves that the 24g creates. This concept can also be used with claptons.

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Helix coils are also nice coils. One of my go to's. Its 24g twisted with 28g twisted into the grooves that the 24g creates. This concept can also be used with claptons.

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Now your way over my head lmao I'll have to do some major reading/youtubing for that lpl

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Run ur tank on the sig
Then ur Clapton s on the ipv, it's all about safety brother...
I know the matching game
But U still have to consider safety bro


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Run ur tank on the sig
Then ur Clapton s on the ipv, it's all about safety brother...
I know the matching game
But U still have to consider safety bro


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Really the reason I was running the tank on the ipv is because the smok is running the quad coil which is .16ohms I didn't figure the sig could handle it?

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Really the reason I was running the tank on the ipv is because the smok is running the quad coil which is .16ohms I didn't figure the sig could handle it?

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Oh damn too low


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Oh damn too low


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Yup looks like I better buy me another mod lol yea I'm all about safety I might order the snow wolf the week

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You can put the quad coil in your TFV4 on an unregulated box, or the Sigelei 150w can fire as low as .1 I believe. You can get either for pretty cheap. The unregulated boxes will run cheaper than the 150w, but those are pretty cheap nowadays too. Like it's been said before, safety is the most important rule, but it looks like you've been pretty cautious with things More so than others on here. And as far as helix coils, Twisted Messes has some nice videos on them, they have a lot of juice channels. I was thinking about posting up a couple tutorials myself and videos on the importance of battery safety and such when building.

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Snow wolf does look pretty cool and you can get them on a good deal. I think the Bluetooth thing is kind of overkill though. Not sure what the purpose behind that is besides bells and whistles.

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I would suggest using Nichrome. People having issues with claptons ramping up on even their mech mods have switched to Nichrome from kanthal and seen faster ramp up time.
Yeah. Personally, I prefer nichrome for my tube mods, but I don't really like the performance of those too much. They're harsh and the flavor/vapor just isn't up to par with what I can do with kanthal on a series or regulated mod. It's all very vapable and better than standard coils in many ways, but I've never done anything that wasn't inferior by clapton standards.

I do occasionally use nichrome for the outer wire with kanthal for the core. Whether or not this is a superstitious practice, I couldn't tell you. I'm not entirely convinced that nichrome heats up all that differently from kanthal. Any difference from kanthal would be due to density and heat capacity, since the outer wire is basically inactive, electrically.

Claptons are generally power-hogs. They pretty much always need more than natural voltage (4v) to get there. Even a high-current build needs more power than it can get on a 4.2v mech because the outer wire has so much mass to it. The ratio of mass to power needed doesn't change with the amount of current. Standard mechs are harder to match a clapton to. It can be done, but your options are very limited. You have to keep the coils pretty small for the amount of current they pull. They're not ideal.

And then, on the flipside, if you use a regulated box, you still have to watch the mass of your coil. If it's too big, the heat-retention will be through the roof and the coils will quickly overheat from the wattage it takes to get them going. If it takes a long time to heat up, it'll take at least as long to cool down. And if you pump extra voltage to it, then it will get that much hotter that much faster, but it won't cool down any faster.

So it's sort of a balancing act. Everyone has different tastes, vaping habits, and combinations of gear. It takes some trial and error. Ask any clapton user and they will say that it's worth it, but none of them will deny the fact that they are finicky bitches. Once you get a feel for how different parameters affect performance, it's easy to tweak and intuit the kinds of builds that will get you what you want, but you're probably gonna do a lot of throwaways to get there.

But hey, at least by then, you'll have the technique down to the point where you can make clapton wire without looking.

One thing that will always help with speed and reducing heat retention is using thinner outer wire. Personally, I go with 36g and smaller. My favorites for pretty much any clapton are 38g and 40g. I find that they get more flavor and much more of that dense, chewy texture. The difference in speed is night and day, too. They're much more efficient and still carry all of the benefits of claptons with thicker outer wraps. I think it's a good compromise.

You can also use thinner cores and parallel them in a fused clapton. Two strands of 28g have different heating properties than a single strand of 24g. The individual strands transfer heat much faster, allowing you to squeeze in similar surface area to thicker wires and pull about as much current without as much ramp-up or overheating. It just doesn't have to get as hot to perform.

You could always do singles, too. Lots of clapton users do. They're not like standard singles. Clapton singles can have every bit as much surface area as a dual, but because of their unique wicking and heating properties, they can be very MEAN and yet, very balanced.
 
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Yeah I've always done a single Clapton.. Any speciality coil I do is usually a single coil. I find doing dual is overkill and I'm a single coil kinda guy anyway

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Yup, i agree single Clapton etcccc is the way to go, but for me I find it too cold for my liking I like this dual CLAPTONS 22gn/32gn 4/5wraps 2 diameter ADC


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Warm Vapes are nice Vapes :)

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Can you guys give me some great regulated boxes for dripper

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Can you guys give me some great regulated boxes for dripper

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Sigelei fuchai
Koopor 200
Wismec DNA 200
Wismec RX 200
I don't like ipvs sorry
This is my personal recommendation


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Lavabox 200 seems promising too. But I've always liked Sigelei because I've heard so many great things about them. Don't think I can recall of anyone complaining about one. Seem very trustworthy

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Think my next mod will be a Lipo just because :)

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Lavabox 200 seems promising too. But I've always liked Sigelei because I've heard so many great things about them. Don't think I can recall of anyone complaining about one. Seem very trustworthy

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I still have my OG 150 no problem at all,,
I heard some bad shit about the 150 with TC


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Sigelei fuchai
Koopor 200
Wismec DNA 200
Wismec RX 200
I don't like ipvs sorry
This is my personal recommendation


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Just ordered the koopor 200w 49.99

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I still have my OG 150 no problem at all,,
I heard some bad shit about the 150 with TC


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Just got an original 150w myself. I don't think I'll ever use the TC setting, so I thought getting one would be a waste of money.

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Nice,if u don't like the sleeve sell it to me


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I'm waiting for one lol
39 bucks a month wait FML


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What rda is that

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