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Alright. For those who don't already know who I am, my name is Dr. Howard Porter. I am the author of Mashiach, and many other boring academic pamphlets that no one here would have ever heard of. I am touted as a leading expert on metaphysics, esoterica, and the occult.
More relevant to this forum, I am a former smoker (yet never an anti-smoker), hardcore vaper, cloud fetishist, nicotine advocate, and all-around corrupter of youth.
This survey is for my own use, and nothing taken from it will be used against you, this forum, or our beloved hobby. I am 100% pro-vaping, pro-smoking, pro-nicotine, and anti-government. Hell, I'm even pro-youth vaping.
I don't know your real names, addresses, emails, or anything, yet I give you my real name and intention. (Is that enough disclosure, gang?)
Now, on to the questions:
A) Since nearly all vapers are former or current smokers, it's safe to assume you smoked before you vaped. The first part concerns smoking.
1) How old were you when you started smoking?
2) Did you dream or fantasize about smoking before you started?
3) Did you start for social reasons (acceptance, fitting in, peer pressure, rebelion), or for other reasons (erotic, sensual, spiritual, curiosity)?
4) Do you have a smoking fetish (whether watching others or eroticising your own smoking)?
5) Was there anyone in particular who inspired you to smoke? If so whom?
B) The next section is about vaping.
6) This one is a question of style, not purpose (i.e. flavour chaser is not an option): Are you primarily a "cloud chaser" or a "tootle puffer"?
7) If vaping had been available when you started smoking, would you have chosen vaping over smoking?
8) Only if you have quit smoking: Did you switch for health reasons alone, or for any other (non health related) reason at all?
C) the last part is about nicotine itself
9) have you ever looked into the overwhelming evidence of nicotine's positive effects on the brain?
The last one is kind of long, but please humour me, I beg you.
The story:
In the 1940s, three major tobacco companies began researching the addictiveness of tobacco. After their research was complete, all 3 companies followed different strategies. One company (B&W) began extracting and using liquid nicotine in their cigarettes, and their sales increased a little. The second (RJR) began using higher nicotine yielding tobaccos, and their sales increased a little. Lastly, the third (PM) started extracting anatabine from tobacco, and only added it to a recently rebranded former ladies' cigarette called Marlboro, and within 20 years, it sold more than all other brands combined. They never disclosed this research to the public or the government, and even lobbied very hard to make sure that nicotine would be the only alkaloid tested for by the FTC. Over time, other tobacco companies discovered the secret of Marlboro's success, and the use of heavy dosages of anatabine became the standard.
Fast forward a few decades. A small pharmaceutical company called Star Scientific tested a new smoking cessation drug which turned out to be way more effective than even NRT and vaping combined, but the FDA deemed the drug untested and not legal for sale. That drug was CigRx, and its active ingredient? Anatabine.
The question:
10) If I handed you documentation for the above, and you already know that most ejuice contains no anatabine, and WTA and natural/rolling tobacco contain only trace amounts, would your views on smoking, vaping, and nicotine as a drug change? How?
 
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The last 3 years I smoked I stuffed my own with organic, non additive tobacco. It was stronger and had more nicotine than any cigarette and I was just as addicted to them as commercial cigarettes. I don't think the form of nicotine or even additives matter to some people; it's the nicotine...
 

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Did you know that they had to change the definition of addiction, just to classify nicotine as addictive? And by that definition, any pleasurable substance can be classified as addictive.
Sure, but I think most long time smokers are addicted, rather than just dependent... I've read post after post by vapers stating nicotine isn't addictive, while they buy freezers to stockpile their 'non addictive' nicotine...
 

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1) 13 younger after nicking some from the parents.
2) not really.
3) all of they above minus the sexual.
4) no my fetishes are not as mundane.
5) the stupids... in the 90s I figured the stupids were out to get me and to keep them alive I started smoking. any other influences are dead now.

6) I prefer flavor huffer.. not douchey as cloud chaser and not as fruity as tootie puffer.
7) Hell to the fuck yes.
8) health and anti taxation reasons.

9) yes and caffeine and another substance not named here. In and of themselves are benefits punch well above their weight class vs. the negatives.

10.. would have me fucking hating big tobacco and pharma and government even more.
 

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The last 3 years I smoked I stuffed my own with organic, non additive tobacco. It was stronger and had more nicotine than any cigarette and I was just as addicted to them as commercial cigarettes. I don't think the form of nicotine or even additives matter to some people; it's the nicotine...
actually you would be wrong on so many levels.
Criminally stupidly wrong.
 

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Please stop trolling, Steve.
 
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A) Since nearly all vapers are former or current smokers, it's safe to assume you smoked before you vaped. The first part concerns smoking.
1) How old were you when you started smoking? 21 - I waited until then because I promised my parents I wouldn't smoke until I was 21!
2) Did you dream or fantasize about smoking before you started? Nope
3) Did you start for social reasons (acceptance, fitting in, peer pressure, rebelion), or for other reasons (erotic, sensual, spiritual, curiosity)? I started because everyone around me smoked, and I really couldn't stand the smell of smoke. My thinking was 'if you can't beat them, join them!'
4) Do you have a smoking fetish (whether watching others or eroticising your own smoking)? No
5) Was there anyone in particular who inspired you to smoke? If so whom? Everyone smoked in that era - no one particular person 'inspired me!'
B) The next section is about vaping.
6) This one is a question of style, not purpose (i.e. flavour chaser is not an option): Are you primarily a "cloud chaser" or a "tootle puffer"? Interesting. I vape about 30 mls a day for nicotine and flavor. The clouds are accidental - although I vape around 50%mtl 50% DL. Subohm was a natural progression for me.
7) If vaping had been available when you started smoking, would you have chosen vaping over smoking? Moot point really - perhaps if people had vaped back in the 70s, but I didnt take it up for the coolness factor!
8) Only if you have quit smoking: Did you switch for health reasons, or for any other (non health related) reason at all? It was accidental, but at the same time I was aware that after 40 years I should give up before it had a noticeable affect on my health. It was so easy it just happened!
C) the last part is about nicotine itself
9) have you ever looked into the overwhelming evidence of nicotine's positive effects on the brain? Only since I took up vaping - doesn't mean a whole lot to me, although it's interesting, and becomes more relevant each year.
The last one is kind of long, but please humour me, I beg you.
The story:
In the 1940s, three major tobacco companies began researching the addictiveness of tobacco. After their research was complete, all 3 companies followed different strategies. One company (B&W) began extracting and using liquid nicotine in their cigarettes, and their sales increased a little. The second (RJR) began using higher nicotine yielding tobaccos, and their sales increased a little. Lastly, the third (PM) started extracting anatabine from tobacco, and only added it to a recently rebranded former ladies' cigarette called Marlboro, and within 20 years, it sold more than all other brands combined. They never disclosed this research to the public or the government, and even lobbied very hard to make sure that nicotine would be the only alkaloid tested for by the FTC. Over time, other tobacco companies discovered the secret of Marlboro's success, and the use of heavy dosages of anatabine became the standard.
Fast forward a few decades. A small pharmaceutical company called Star Scientific tested a new smoking cessation drug which turned out to be way more effective than even NRT and vaping combined, but the FDA deemed the drug untested and not legal for sale. That drug was CigRx, and its active ingredient? Anatabine.
The question:
10) If I handed you documentation for the above, and you already know that most ejuice contains no anatabine, and WTA and natural/rolling tobacco contain only trace amounts, would your views on smoking, vaping, and nicotine as a drug change? How?[/QUOTE] No. I'm still enthralled that it was so easy to break a 40-year pack a day habit that I'm really not interested in any other smoking cessation methods or why I had such trouble giving up. I suspect my 40-year smoking habit attributed as much to nicotine as to a hand-to-mouth habit.
 
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Psychological addiction is quite real, but the antis clearly state that nicotine is physically addictive, which is a blatant lie. There is a huge difference, medically, even if one kind of addiction feels like another subjectively.
If lack of a substance in the bloodstream or addition of a substance causes chemical responses in the body and brain, where is the line drawn between physiological and psychological addiction?
 

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1) 13 younger after nicking some from the parents.
2) not really.
3) all of they above minus the sexual.
4) no my fetishes are not as mundane.
5) the stupids... in the 90s I figured the stupids were out to get me and to keep them alive I started smoking. any other influences are dead now.

6) I prefer flavor huffer.. not douchey as cloud chaser and not as fruity as tootie puffer.
7) Hell to the fuck yes.
8) health and anti taxation reasons.

9) yes and caffeine and another substance not named here. In and of themselves are benefits punch well above their weight class vs. the negatives.

10.. would have me fucking hating big tobacco and pharma and government even more.
Thank you so much, BigNasty.
 

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Please stop trolling, Steve.
 
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A) Since nearly all vapers are former or current smokers, it's safe to assume you smoked before you vaped. The first part concerns smoking.
1) How old were you when you started smoking? 21 - I waited until then because I promised my parents I wouldn't smoke until I was 21!
2) Did you dream or fantasize about smoking before you started? Nope
3) Did you start for social reasons (acceptance, fitting in, peer pressure, rebelion), or for other reasons (erotic, sensual, spiritual, curiosity)? I started because everyone around me smoked, and I really couldn't stand the smell of smoke. My thinking was 'if you can't beat them, join them!'
4) Do you have a smoking fetish (whether watching others or eroticising your own smoking)? No
5) Was there anyone in particular who inspired you to smoke? If so whom? Everyone smoked in that era - no one particular person 'inspired me!'
B) The next section is about vaping.
6) This one is a question of style, not purpose (i.e. flavour chaser is not an option): Are you primarily a "cloud chaser" or a "tootle puffer"? Interesting. I vape about 30 mls a day for nicotine and flavor. The clouds are accidental - probably more of a 'tootie puffer' than a cloud chaser, although I vape around 50%mtl 50% DL. Subohm was a natural progression for me.
7) If vaping had been available when you started smoking, would you have chosen vaping over smoking? Moot point really - perhaps if people had vaped back in the 70s, but I didnt take it up for the coolness factor!
8) Only if you have quit smoking: Did you switch for health reasons, or for any other (non health related) reason at all? It was accidental, but at the same time I was aware that after 40 years I should give up before it had a noticeable affect on my health. It was so easy it just happened!
C) the last part is about nicotine itself
9) have you ever looked into the overwhelming evidence of nicotine's positive effects on the brain? Only since I took up vaping - doesn't mean a whole lot to me, although it's interesting, and becomes more relevant each year.
The last one is kind of long, but please humour me, I beg you.
The story:
In the 1940s, three major tobacco companies began researching the addictiveness of tobacco. After their research was complete, all 3 companies followed different strategies. One company (B&W) began extracting and using liquid nicotine in their cigarettes, and their sales increased a little. The second (RJR) began using higher nicotine yielding tobaccos, and their sales increased a little. Lastly, the third (PM) started extracting anatabine from tobacco, and only added it to a recently rebranded former ladies' cigarette called Marlboro, and within 20 years, it sold more than all other brands combined. They never disclosed this research to the public or the government, and even lobbied very hard to make sure that nicotine would be the only alkaloid tested for by the FTC. Over time, other tobacco companies discovered the secret of Marlboro's success, and the use of heavy dosages of anatabine became the standard.
Fast forward a few decades. A small pharmaceutical company called Star Scientific tested a new smoking cessation drug which turned out to be way more effective than even NRT and vaping combined, but the FDA deemed the drug untested and not legal for sale. That drug was CigRx, and its active ingredient? Anatabine.
The question:
10) If I handed you documentation for the above, and you already know that most ejuice contains no anatabine, and WTA and natural/rolling tobacco contain only trace amounts, would your views on smoking, vaping, and nicotine as a drug change? How?
No. I'm still enthralled that it was so easy to break a 40-year pack a day habit that I'm really not interested in any other smoking cessation methods or why I had such trouble giving up. I suspect my 40-year smoking habit attributed as much to nicotine as to a hand-to-mouth habit.[/QUOTE]
Thank you, Amanda.
 

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Physical dependence and increasing dosage required.
I basically always smoked a pack of cigarettes a day, more if drinking. If I didn't smoke for a prolonged period of time, I would get irritable and have headaches. Wouldn't that be a psychological response to the withdraw?
Like vapers who need more and more power and clouds to get a good vape?
 

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Please stop trolling, Steve.
 
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No, like a ****** user's needed dosage exceeding a fatal dose, and cessation resulting in DTs and death (get enough = dead and quit = dead).
Seems like a rather extreme scenereo, rather than an average case. A physiological addiction doesn't have to be so extreme. The reason vaping works for some is the act placates the hand and mouth action of smoking... With nicotine and smoking I believe there is no clear cut line between physiological and psychological addiction; more so a combination of the two...
 

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Please stop trolling, Steve.
 
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If cigarettes were physically addictive, everyone who smokes would continually increase the amount they smoke so that within a year, they would require 16 packs a day just to feel normal. ALL withdrawal symptoms associated with nicotine are 100% psychosomatic. period.
No way - lack of coordination (to the extent you can't even get behind a wheel), fuzzy thinking, headaches - those are physical for sure - aren't they? Granted they are gone within about 72 hours, and the rest I agree is more from a lifetime habit, but those first 72 hours are surely physical. And brutal (I rememember those quit efforts well!)!
 

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Please stop trolling, Steve.
 
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No way - lack of coordination (to the extent you can't even get behind a wheel), fuzzy thinking, headaches - those are physical for sure - aren't they? Granted they are gone within about 72 hours, and the rest I agree is more from a lifetime habit, but those first 72 hours are surely physical. And brutal (I rememember those quit efforts well!)!
I wish my fog was 72 hours long.
2 weeks and I was still foggy as shit, what is funny when I tried to stop the first time I made it 14 days with my 510 kit and snus. Almost stabbed bunch of mouth breathers with a machinist scribe... The hell of the job at the time and trying to quit was not a recipe for quitting.
Then went for triple use and was easier the second time around.
 

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If cigarettes were physically addictive, everyone who smokes would continually increase the amount they smoke so that within a year, they would require 16 packs a day just to feel normal. ALL withdrawal symptoms associated with nicotine are 100% psychosomatic. period.
Physical withdrawal symptoms would leave me to believe otherwise...
 

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There is a clear distinction between the two medically. You have to be fucking with me, to see if you can get a rise, because no one can be as misinformed as you are pretending to be. This is high school health class level stuff. How can you even be here and not know the difference?
I've seen page after page of physical quit smoking symptoms some who quit smoking have. its not just in their minds, but their bodies reacting to withdrawal from smoking and nicotine. Addiction affects everyone in different manners. There is no clear cut definition...
 

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No way - lack of coordination (to the extent you can't even get behind a wheel), fuzzy thinking, headaches - those are physical for sure - aren't they? Granted they are gone within about 72 hours, and the rest I agree is more from a lifetime habit, but those first 72 hours are surely physical. And brutal (I rememember those quit efforts well!)!
All psycho somatic, proven beyond any doubt years ago. The resulting effects manifest as physical symptoms, but are all caused by the mind, hence the term psychosomatic, meaning mind over body. I quit smoking several times, and never suffered a single withdrawal symptom, simply because I decided not to.
 

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I've seen page after page of physical quit smoking symptoms some who quit smoking have. its not just in their minds, but their bodies reacting to withdrawal from smoking...
From the WTNA, tar, MAOIs, and other pharma dumped into the tobacco sure those symptoms suck.
The cold turkey quit matches pretty fucking close to the serotonin crash symptoms of ssri withdrawal.
 

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I wish my fog was 72 hours long.
2 weeks and I was still foggy as shit, what is funny when I tried to stop the first time I made it 14 days with my 510 kit and snus. Almost stabbed bunch of mouth breathers with a machinist scribe... The hell of the job at the time and trying to quit was not a recipe for quitting.
Then went for triple use and was easier the second time around.
Over a 40-year period I managed to quit 3 times for a period of 1-4 months. The last effort my then teenage daughter (or maybe younger) suggested I just smoke, because I was so tough to live with LOL

Just want to add she became a huge fan of vaping, because nothing changed except the delicious smell of cookies in the house:p
 

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All psycho somatic, proven beyond any doubt years ago. The resulting effects manifest as physical symptoms, but are all caused by the mind, hence the term psychosomatic, meaning mind over body. I quit smoking several times, and never suffered a single withdrawal symptom, simply because I decided not to.
I suggest you were fortunate in that case. All the studies I read suggest there is a relatively short , but tough, physical withdrawal period.
 
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All psycho somatic, proven beyond any doubt years ago. The resulting effects manifest as physical symptoms, but are all caused by the mind, hence the term psychosomatic, meaning mind over body. I quit smoking several times, and never suffered a single withdrawal symptom, simply because I decided not to.
Actually it is mislabeled IMHO that it is a withdraw from NiC..
But is it the self medication from tobacco that is a withdrawal and not a psychosomatic withdrawal in it's entirety.
MAOIs and other serotonin influencing chemicals need to be weened down to not cause a serotonin crash. Ever wonder why so many on MAOIs and SSRIs are heavy chain smokers?
 

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Please stop trolling, Steve.
 
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I suggest you were fortunate in that case. All the studies I read suggest their is a relatively short , but tough, physical withdrawal period.
...and I bet all of them were funded by the American Heritage foundation or one of its fronts.
 

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Actually it is mislabeled IMHO that it is a withdraw from NiC..
But is it the self medication from tobacco that is a withdrawal and not a psychosomatic withdrawal in it's entirety.
MAOIs and other serotonin influencing chemicals need to be weened down to not cause a serotonin crash. Ever wonder why so many on MAOIs and SSRIs are heavy chain smokers?
Exactly, it's like believing you can have aspirin withdrawals.
 

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O.K. Wait Wait Wait! I forgot all the warnings about Steve. Forgive my dealing with him at all. I'm truly sorry. I had no idea what I was getting into.
 

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Yes, there is a clearcut definition, and every medical student knows it. The fuzzyness was created by anti-smoking groups in the minds of the television brainwashed public. The only physically addictive thing in cigarettes is anatabine, and its pharmacokinetic speed is very slow, and it would take about 120 years of smoking to be able to produce the kind of symptoms you describe. ALL withdrawal symptoms from nicotine are from the mind. it is scientifically proven. The only studies that purport to contradict these known facts are all junk science bought and paid for by the American Heritage Foundation.

I think maybe those who conducted such studies were never smokers... Addiction is never clear cut...
 

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O.K. Wait Wait Wait! I forgot all the warnings about Steve. Forgive my dealing with him at all. I'm truly sorry. I had no idea what I was getting into.
That's a pretty narrow and simplistic viewpoint from one who clains to be an intellectual. Sounds more like an addict trying to defend their addiction...
 

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I quit cigs... heard it is tougher than ******...
Quitting smoking is not that hard when you want to quit. When you don't want to quit and you are being made to by parents, family, or whatever, then it seems impossible to.
 

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That's a pretty narrow and simplistic viewpoint from one who clains to be an intellectual. Sounds more like an addict trying to defend their addiction...
Steve, you sound like a TROLL looking for attention! Weren't you banned from ECF for being a trolling turd????
 

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i am getting slightly confused,
doc are you saying cigarettes have no phsical addition to them. Its all in your mind???
I can see that
and all teh withdrawl symptoms that are reported that are physical like,
getting a cold
headaches
etc
are not from withdrawl but form the body purging all the nastiness we inhaled while smoking that built up in our system

am I on the right page?
 

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I found it absolutely impossible until I discovered vaping!
Well, when I was smoking I did not want to quit because I loved watching my clouds, but when I started to vape, I loved it!! Big, Huge Clouds. mmmmmm clouds!! I can go both with nic and without, either way it is the clouds that matter to me..
 

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Interesting response. I wasn't seeing trolling in this thread, merely a different point of view - which didn't seem out of line to me!
thats steves problem
1. he trolls some threads
2. he ALMOST ALWAYS takes a different view point then the majority
3. most of the time its the words he uses that piss people off and get everyone irritated so easily
. he has a past from ecf with many here it seems and letting go of the past aint easy

I personally like his different views, even if they are completely wrong sometimes. It gets ya thinking.
I just wish he'd learn how to present his view without pissing everyone off
 

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Well, when I was smoking I did not want to quit because I loved watching my clouds, but when I started to vape, I loved it!! Big, Huge Clouds. mmmmmm clouds!! I can go both with nic and without, either way it is the clouds that matter to me..
I was never interested in clouds at all! I smoked/vape for the nicotine and hand to mouth habit.
 

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thats steves problem
1. he trolls some threads
2. he ALMOST ALWAYS takes a different view point then the majority
3. most of the time its the words he uses that piss people off and get everyone irritated so easily
. he has a past from ecf with many here it seems and letting go of the past aint easy

I personally like his different views, even if they are completely wrong sometimes. It gets ya thinking.
I just wish he'd learn how to present his view without pissing everyone off
I'm well aware of his history. However in this thread I didn't see any controversy except that his opinion different from the OP - as did mine!
 

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That's a pretty narrow and simplistic viewpoint from one who clains to be an intellectual. Sounds more like an addict trying to defend their addiction...

I think maybe those who conducted such studies were never smokers

Like vapers who need more and more power and clouds to get a good vape?

I've read post after post by vapers stating nicotine isn't addictive, while they buy freezers to stockpile their 'non addictive' nicotine

theres what he said to troll this thread the rest was a different view point
but he cant just be nice about it
theres always derogatory material added in there and a superior, holier then thou attitude
 

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theres what he said to troll this thread the rest was a different view point
but he cant just be nice about it
theres always derogatory material added in there and a superior, holier then thou attitude
Nah he is a shameful vaper.
If you do not conform to his innokin, shill fatlardo 7 watt carto way then you are scum.
 

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Nah he is a shameful vaper.
If you do not conform to his innokin, shill fatlardo 7 watt carto way then you are scum.
not innokin- prorape.

I'm all for a spirited debate and can agree to disagree with damn near anyone, Usually I don't even remember 5 minutes later. With him, it's not just the words used its the way its done. -like Matt said the past doesn't go away so easily, and when one crosses the lines of decency so frequently forgetting becomes almost impossible. Forgiving is easy, forgetting not so much. I know that makes it sound like im carrying a grudge like a child - far from it, I hit the log off button and go to work and this place doesn't exist.
 

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1) I started smoking at 15
2) I never dreamed about it
3) I started because it was offered and I thought I had gotten a girl pregnant
4) I don't think I have a smoking fetish
5)my grandpa
6) depends on your definition. 50-60w for a thick, dense flavorful vape
7)I would have chosen vaping
8)I chose to quit for health reasons choose to vape because I enjoy it; but, will go a day or two without vaping at times.
9) I have as not only does it have positive effects on the brain but on cardiac tissue as well.
10) my views would not change- as combustible tobacco and its delivery still presents overall negative effects on the body; despite, the positive effects on neural pathways and cardiac tissue, the negative effects of combustible tobacco far outweigh the positive effects.
 
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Alright. For those who don't already know who I am, my name is Dr. Howard Porter. I am the author of Mashiach, and many other boring academic pamphlets that no one here would have ever heard of. I am touted as a leading expert on metaphysics, esoterica, and the occult.
More relevant to this forum, I am a former smoker (yet never an anti-smoker), hardcore vaper, cloud fetishist, nicotine advocate, and all-around corrupter of youth.
This survey is for my own use, and nothing taken from it will be used against you, this forum, or our beloved hobby. I am 100% pro-vaping, pro-smoking, pro-nicotine, and anti-government. Hell, I'm even pro-youth vaping.
I don't know your real names, addresses, emails, or anything, yet I give you my real name and intention. (Is that enough disclosure, gang?)
Now, on to the questions:
A) Since nearly all vapers are former or current smokers, it's safe to assume you smoked before you vaped. The first part concerns smoking.
1) How old were you when you started smoking? 15
2) Did you dream or fantasize about smoking before you started? No
3) Did you start for social reasons (acceptance, fitting in, peer pressure, rebelion), or for other reasons (erotic, sensual, spiritual, curiosity)? Curiosity.
4) Do you have a smoking fetish (whether watching others or eroticising your own smoking)? No, I like clouds but do not fantasize about them.
5) Was there anyone in particular who inspired you to smoke? If so whom? No. Most adults I knew smoked. Though in my family only my mother smoked.
B) The next section is about vaping.
6) This one is a question of style, not purpose (i.e. flavour chaser is not an option): Are you primarily a "cloud chaser" or a "tootle puffer"? Cloud
chaser. Not for the clouds as much as about flavor. I can't get the flavor I want from "tootle puffer" devices.

7) If vaping had been available when you started smoking, would you have chosen vaping over smoking? Yes. I knew of the harms of smoking. Were I have been able to try nicotine without the tobacco risks, I would have.
8) Only if you have quit smoking: Did you switch for health reasons alone, or for any other (non health related) reason at all? Health reasons first, and tax reasons second. I fucking HATE "sin" taxes.
C) the last part is about nicotine itself
9) have you ever looked into the overwhelming evidence of nicotine's positive effects on the brain? Yes, I have read some of the research.
The last one is kind of long, but please humour me, I beg you.
The story:
In the 1940s, three major tobacco companies began researching the addictiveness of tobacco. After their research was complete, all 3 companies followed different strategies. One company (B&W) began extracting and using liquid nicotine in their cigarettes, and their sales increased a little. The second (RJR) began using higher nicotine yielding tobaccos, and their sales increased a little. Lastly, the third (PM) started extracting anatabine from tobacco, and only added it to a recently rebranded former ladies' cigarette called Marlboro, and within 20 years, it sold more than all other brands combined. They never disclosed this research to the public or the government, and even lobbied very hard to make sure that nicotine would be the only alkaloid tested for by the FTC. Over time, other tobacco companies discovered the secret of Marlboro's success, and the use of heavy dosages of anatabine became the standard.
Fast forward a few decades. A small pharmaceutical company called Star Scientific tested a new smoking cessation drug which turned out to be way more effective than even NRT and vaping combined, but the FDA deemed the drug untested and not legal for sale. That drug was CigRx, and its active ingredient? Anatabine.
The question:
10) If I handed you documentation for the above, and you already know that most ejuice contains no anatabine, and WTA and natural/rolling tobacco contain only trace amounts, would your views on smoking, vaping, and nicotine as a drug change? How? No. Combustible tobacco is still harmful. Breathing any smoke is. While the tobacco companies did pull some underhanded shit to have a more captive, loyal audience, we still choose to smoke. Preservatives in our foods are harmful to our health too. It causes the higher rates of cancer we have today, among other issues. Are we pissed off at food manufactures?
There are risks in everything we choose to do. Some behavior is riskier than others.

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