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Whats that ohm at? I got a .3 24n80/32n80 dual coil and its a freakin monster.... havent touched any other mod since i got it a week or 2 ago...

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Mine is running right about the same .33
 

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A single coil build at 7.5 wraps, 3.0mm ID would put you at about 0.11Ω pulling approximately 38 amps.
Well like 2 weeks ago I ordered the Kbox 200w that fires down to .05 if any of you guys want some to play around let me know
I also have some big 26650 RDAs so maybe this might just work ok for mods at the moment I have
Ipv4s,cube 2, cube mini,FuChai,the UD balrog and the Arctic dolphin and the smy 170 I just put that out there because someone was saying make sure your device can handle it.


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Couple new builds

Quad 24k 2.5 mm 6 wrap in my kennedy .12 on a tesla invader 2

Dual fused clapton, 2x26ni80 core wrapped in 32k, 5 wraps at 3mm in my troll on an AR mech .17

Really pleased with Both. Thought I'd share
 

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tried my hand at staged/fused claptons this morning. dual 6 wrap 2-28k/40k staged with 24k. not too bad. the pics kind of suck cuz i dont have my phone cord to link the better pictures to my phone.
 

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BrattVapes

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Trying to find 26 Kanthal... Usually go Nichrome and its no issue to find.. Why is 26 Kanthal so hard to find???

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Trying to find 26 Kanthal... Usually go Nichrome and its no issue to find.. Why is 26 Kanthal so hard to find???

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I always end up with 26 nichrome. Mainly because I like it for cores. I did just do my first 24k core fc and turns out I like that better that the 26 n80 cored fc's. At least in the indestructible rda I do. I can't get over how smooth the airflow is in that rda. It isn't airy at all. Lots of airflow and all dense vape. Right now it is clocking in as my favorite rda to vape. I went from that to my past high favorite of my 13h9h and I notice the vape is a lot less dense and more airy.

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I always end up with 26 nichrome. Mainly because I like it for cores. I did just do my first 24k core fc and turns out I like that better that the 26 n80 cored fc's. At least in the indestructible rda I do. I can't get over how smooth the airflow is in that rda. It isn't airy at all. Lots of airflow and all dense vape. Right now it is clocking in as my favorite rda to vape. I went from that to my past high favorite of my 13h9h and I notice the vape is a lot less dense and more airy.

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Have you gotten a double vision yet? I've been using it over the velocity lately. Still running these 28ss/40n80 fc's
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They're gettin nice and grimey and still rocking on flavor

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Wire Building Pic I did Earlier...2 x 22K/44N60
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Wow the Griffin is the largest deck RTA in 22mm and best for us builders..
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The Build in the MT Tank is just about touching the Barrel:
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..Ive heard everyone says the "MT Tank has the biggest deck and probably bigger then the griffins deck"....Here is its chamber inside of the Griffins lol
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MidwestExpress

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Have you gotten a double vision yet? I've been using it over the velocity lately. Still running these 28ss/40n80 fc's
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They're gettin nice and grimey and still rocking on flavor

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Yep, that what I have that horrid hammered out 30x 40k twist framed in 24k wrapped in 40k in. It is and ugly coil but it vapes smooth and nice at 110w as well. I still like the vape from the indestructible better. I would have to build matching coils to truly compare. I just ripped the old coils out of my velocity mini and my 13h9h. Trying get to figure what I'm going to build for them now... hmmmm

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I'm going to try a micro clapton helix.. But I think I'm out of cotton :(

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I'm going to try a micro clapton helix.. But I think I'm out of cotton :(

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26/34 Clapton and Helix'd with 38 then Staged with 24g is a really good vape, even in single coil its pretty badass....
 

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26/34 Clapton and Helix'd with 38 then Staged with 24g is a really good vape, even in single coil its pretty badass....
26/34 single core... Twisted with another 26/34? 38 staging wire seems very small to stage with...?

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26/34 single core... Twisted with another 26/34? 38 staging wire seems very small to stage with...?

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A normal Clapton, the helix wire would be a wire that fits in the claptons grooves. The staging wire would be a parallel wire..
This is a overblown version of what I was referring to but single core, the 34 where the clapton outer wire is and the 38 as the single outer wire..Then a Parallel 24G Between the Wraps of the Clapton Helix Wire.
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If its a Fused Clapton then it will look more like this(Left pic) but with the setup on the right pic:
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BrattVapes

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Gotcha was just trying to figure out what you're trying to convey. I'll try to whip something up!

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Yep I ordered some, thank you Dawn!

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No problem I use mainly them and k.bee they're similar in prices but for some reason on eBay they have 500ft of tempered ni200 for 26.99 they don't even offer it in that many ft on their website and the 100ft roll is like only 7$ less than the 500ft so I keep stocking up thinking thinking someone is messing up. Same thing with the 34g Ni 200 tempered
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I don't know why you are having the issues you are with the Aromamizer and Crius, I've had zero issues concerning dry hits and wicking... Now, the Aromamizer will leak if tipped for too long and I'm one of the unlucky ones that got a leaky Crius as well... But, as far as performance, they have both been stellar...

All that being said, my Griffin will be here tomorrow...

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I don't know why you are having the issues you are with the Aromamizer and Crius, I've had zero issues concerning dry hits and wicking... Now, the Aromamizer will leak if tipped for too long and I'm one of the unlucky ones that got a leaky Crius as well... But, as far as performance, they have both been stellar...

All that being said, my Griffin will be here tomorrow...

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And the Aromamizer will go into the parts bin after you receive it...I didnt like the Aromamizer because of its limitations, stuck under 70w or dry hits even with drilled out juice ports, the tank even full seemed half empty at best, tiny build deck, it was chunky and for little return and expensive....I just never saw the value in that RTA...
The Griffin has almost no limitations to what can be built in it, if it fits in a 22mm Velocity or Twisted Messes then it will fit in the Griffin. It is well built and the parts seem quality. The design is flawless and I have yet to dislike anything on it. It is top fill and you can remove the tank from the deck without draining juice (or spilling it like the Aromamizer...)
If you need a tut on wicking the Griffin for optimal results I will post a link to my tut. I just finished my comparison to the MT RTA also, next will be the Diablo RTA.
The only reason the Griffin IMO is better then the VCMT is the VCMT has a shitty designed Juice Control that is floating and can spin when tightened and I see that as a flaw, when the 25mm Griffin is released I think it will be the greatest platform/capacity RTA there will be for some time to come.
 

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Any one tried any fancy builds with ni200?

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Any one tried any fancy builds with ni200?

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Nope resistance would be so low you wouldnt be able to fire them....Unless you twist it with Kanthal and make many wraps....
I will try them with some SS wire when I get some though...
 

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Nope resistance would be so low you wouldnt be able to fire them....Unless you twist it with Kanthal and make many wraps....
I will try them with some SS wire when I get some though...
I have some 28ss430 dual core wrapped in 40k with 7 wraps on both coils. 14 wraps total. Comes in at .13 ohm. I have that in my freak show. Vapes great in both vw and tc. You can go either way with that build.

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I have some 28ss430 dual core wrapped in 40k with 7 wraps on both coils. 14 wraps total. Comes in at .13 ohm. I have that in my freak show. Vapes great in both vw and tc. You can go either way with that build.

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How would 26g/36g+ Fused Clapton fair? I ordered a spool of 26g in 316L and I was going to try a high 30's for a outer wrap...I didnt know if that would be too low though but I will get different sizes of SS as soon I try it out...
 

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How would 26g/36g+ Fused Clapton fair? I ordered a spool of 26g in 316L and I was going to try a high 30's for a outer wrap...I didnt know if that would be too low though but I will get different sizes of SS as soon I try it out...
430 has a coefficient of .00138 due to near complete lack of nickle. 316 has a coefficient of .00092. So that
How would 26g/36g+ Fused Clapton fair? I ordered a spool of 26g in 316L and I was going to try a high 30's for a outer wrap...I didnt know if that would be too low though but I will get different sizes of SS as soon I try it out...
430 has a coefficient of .00138 due to near complete lack of nickle. 316 has a coefficient of .00092. So 316 is 15% less resistant than 430 around 400 degrees. That is if my math is correct.

So it will be interesting to see. Would work fine in a wide deck. If I have to guess. 9 wraps on each side would work for 316 fc's at that awg. Be interesting to see!

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How would 26g/36g+ Fused Clapton fair? I ordered a spool of 26g in 316L and I was going to try a high 30's for a outer wrap...I didnt know if that would be too low though but I will get different sizes of SS as soon I try it out...
Im running a 28-316l/40n80 fc setup and its very nice. So much so i havent built anything in the past week

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2x 26n80 / 4xtwisted 32k in petri v1.5
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Trying to find something to do with this ud 4xtwisted 32k... seems this worked out rather well.

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How would 26g/36g+ Fused Clapton fair? I ordered a spool of 26g in 316L and I was going to try a high 30's for a outer wrap...I didnt know if that would be too low though but I will get different sizes of SS as soon I try it out...
Youll be looking at about .33 per coil with 8 wraps with a 3mm id for a 26ss/36k fc

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Ok I'm having some issues here my first build on my crius that's on my RX200 went fine worked great no issues I redid it and now temp protect comes in a second what's more likely the issue the number of wraps or the gauge I might have used 28 the first time and 26 this time. I turned the watts way down even tho it wasn't an issue before I'm just trying to figure it out


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Any one tried any fancy builds with ni200?

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I've made nickel claptons that worked quite well.
It was 28g nickel wrapped in 30g nickel.
Still with spaced wraps.
I don't remember how many wraps or ohms it came out to I just remember it worked and quite good.
 

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I'm loving this Griffin RTA, but i feel it needs a slightly higher build than some I've seen. I did have a 5 wrap fused Clapton 36/24K1 in it and it was way too hot at .13. There's just not enough airflow for me for a build that hot. I backed down to a 32N80/24K1 7 wrap standard Clapton and it's so much better at .27. Really amazing. I have an almost identical build in my Twisted Messes RDA and I can barely tell the difference, I just don't have to drip! This tank is amazing.

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I'm loving this Griffin RTA, but i feel it needs a slightly higher build than some I've seen. I did have a 5 wrap fused Clapton 36/24K1 in it and it was way too hot at .13. There's just not enough airflow for me for a build that hot. I backed down to a 32N80/24K1 7 wrap standard Clapton and it's so much better at .27. Really amazing. I have an almost identical build in my Twisted Messes RDA and I can barely tell the difference, I just don't have to drip! This tank is amazing.

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I love a .11-.15 Fused Clapton (110w-140w ADV) in it but thats me...Isn't it the greatest RTA :D I cant tell by the pic but it looks like your coils are 3-4mm from the airflow, if you raise them up a bit then it should open the airflow up more and shouldnt be as hot. It should have the same amount of airflow as a Twisted Messes RDA closed one bump when the Griffin is wide open.
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You can see there should be plenty of room for air to envelope the coils and keep it cool, hell even at 150w its not "that hot". I see your rocking normal claptons though, that may be the reason for your issues...
 
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i never even knew what a helix coil was. so i watched a tutorial by OHMBOYOC on the stapled helix and made an "all kantal" version since all i use is kanthal. all i can say is WOW. i normally only deal in dual coils, but this single coil trumps all the duals ive done to date. now its not perfect cuz its the first one ive ever done. but see what you think. 0.133 ohms 4wraps 3mm id. 2x26 twisted framing 5x0.4 ribbon stapled with 36.
 

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i never even knew what a helix coil was. so i watched a tutorial by OHMBOYOC on the stapled helix and made an "all kantal" version since all i use is kanthal. all i can say is WOW. i normally only deal in dual coils, but this single coil trumps all the duals ive done to date. now its not perfect cuz its the first one ive ever done. but see what you think. 0.133 ohms 4wraps 3mm id. 2x26 twisted framing 5x0.4 ribbon stapled with 36.

Nice Framed Staple Helix! :rolleyes::D
A Helix is a wire that travels the grooves of other twisted wire or its wire that crosses the core wires into frames of twisted wire grooves...Some seem to think its advanced wires twisted but it the Extra wire that follows the groove that makes it a Helix Coil.
This is a 2 x 24K/36N80 Twisted Fused Clapton Helix'd with 32g
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i never even knew what a helix coil was. so i watched a tutorial by OHMBOYOC on the stapled helix and made an "all kantal" version since all i use is kanthal. all i can say is WOW. i normally only deal in dual coils, but this single coil trumps all the duals ive done to date. now its not perfect cuz its the first one ive ever done. but see what you think. 0.133 ohms 4wraps 3mm id. 2x26 twisted framing 5x0.4 ribbon stapled with 36.
Nice clean helix, it's the same wire that got me into building complex stuff.
Where you went wrong with the staple cores is that they should be stacked vertically for optimal juice flow into the wires.

On the next ones try to keep them like this.
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Nice clean helix, it's the same wire that got me into building complex stuff.
Where you went wrong with the staple cores is that they should be stacked vertically for optimal juice flow into the wires.

On the next ones try to keep them like this.
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When doing a build like this, is it better to just do the staple wraps or to wrap the whole coil like with fc's?

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I love a .11-.15 Fused Clapton (110w-140w ADV) in it but thats me...Isn't it the greatest RTA :D I cant tell by the pic but it looks like your coils are 3-4mm from the airflow, if you raise them up a bit then it should open the airflow up more and shouldnt be as hot. It should have the same amount of airflow as a Twisted Messes RDA closed one bump when the Griffin is wide open.
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You can see there should be plenty of room for air to envelope the coils and keep it cool, hell even at 150w its not "that hot". I see your rocking normal claptons though, that may be the reason for your issues...
Of course since I'm finally getting a Griffin I have a question for you here with this... Higher up from the air inlets give a cooler vape. How high is too high from the inlets with this deck?

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I don't know why you are having the issues you are with the Aromamizer and Crius, I've had zero issues concerning dry hits and wicking... Now, the Aromamizer will leak if tipped for too long and I'm one of the unlucky ones that got a leaky Crius as well... But, as far as performance, they have both been stellar...

All that being said, my Griffin will be here tomorrow...

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It's not the RDTAs it's my builds one build will be great no issues and then my next build temp protect comes on in like 2 seconds so I was more asking where should I start troubleshooting my builds


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It's not the RDTAs it's my builds one build will be great no issues and then my next build temp protect comes on in like 2 seconds so I was more asking where should I start troubleshooting my builds


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Ha, I posted this in the wrong thread I think, lol... Wasn't directed at you Dawn0810.

As far as trouble shooting, try to be sure you're doing, as close as humanly possible anyway, the exact same thing every time. Double check that connections are tight, etc.

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Of course since I'm finally getting a Griffin I have a question for you here with this... Higher up from the air inlets give a cooler vape. How high is too high from the inlets with this deck?

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Touching the Chimney may be a bit too high :p I like mine around 5mm above the Air Holes and I place the coils directly over them, alot of people like it so the coils are positioned like on a Freakshow (closer to the posts and air travels behind the coil then up...I like the whole coil getting the air since I dont need to drip.
 

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Touching the Chimney may be a bit too highI like mine around 5mm above the Air Holes and I place the coils directly over them, alot of people like it so the coils are positioned like on a Freakshow (closer to the posts and air travels behind the coil then up...I like the whole coil getting the air since I dont need to drip.
I can understand that as I have a freakshow I build on. Tried putting the coils over the inlets in that and you don't get good airflow. Pull tight to the posts and then you are good but I know that had to mute the flavor a bit.

I will keep that in mind when I do my first build. Trying to figure it what to put in there. Stapled helix, fc's, or framed ribbon with full wrap.



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I can understand that as I have a freakshow I build on. Tried putting the coils over the inlets in that and you don't get good airflow. Pull tight to the posts and then you are good but I know that had to mute the flavor a bit.

I will keep that in mind when I do my first build. Trying to figure it what to put in there. Stapled helix, fc's, or framed ribbon with full wrap.



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Cs, FCs, Ribbon FCs, or something along those lines...It needs to be efficient at wicking but still produce flavor and heat, I think a Staple might be nice but your resistance may be a bit low with dual coil....I just slapped in some large FCs and next I think Ill use some Ribbon FCs....then try something else down the road...
 

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