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How do you guys clean your tools before and after? Whats the best stuff to use, soap and water, alcohol..etc

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All I use are syringes. I put them away clean, so I don't need to do anything to them when I start. Just rinse 3-10 times (depending on the flavor) with hot water, then 3-5 times with filtered water. That's it.

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I typically use hot tap water and shake everything off as much as possible. Certain flavors linger, such as menthol and some fruits, so I dedicate a syringe to favorites so as to avoid any flavor crossover.
 

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Everything gets a hot water rinse.

All syringes get the hot water treatment immediately after flavor use and I make sure I plunge hot water through the shaft & tip. (a few times) I then pull the plunger out and let everything air dry.

Before using again, I'll juice up the soft rubber part of the plunger with VG and run around 5-10ml's of vodka through it. (Just In case any nasties had grow inside the tip)

To keep the ml markings from washing off the syringes, I find putting a piece of clear packaging tape over them works well.

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Oh you filthy careless germy peeplez!

Soap and water??? Ewww, ick... That's just so unsanitary! What if a bacteria gets in???
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GAAAAAaaa!!!
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You need a nuclear autoclave... one that vibrates... and a flame thrower... and a squirrel. (preferably sterile) :)
You need bleach an' acids an' disinfectants... and tequila... and a shaman.

Ya's gotta cook 'em at elebenty tousand degrees for 2 days, then 40 minutes in 6 molar sulfuric acid.
Then the shaman must cast all teh ebil custard spirits outta the empty bottles.
(If you don't have a shaman, a midget will do ;))

Then, the final step in the sterilization process......

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...and then after ya drink the tequila.... yer' ready to mix! :)

Pay attention to this you dirty DIYers. This is gospel. Kill germs with fire! Burn, baby, burn!

Or just use a scale and there's almost no cleanup. :D
 

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Oh you filthy careless germy peeplez!

Soap and water??? Ewww, ick... That's just so unsanitary! What if a bacteria gets in???
willy_nilly.gif
GAAAAAaaa!!!
willy_nilly.gif


You need a nuclear autoclave... one that vibrates... and a flame thrower... and a squirrel. (preferably sterile) :)
You need bleach an' acids an' disinfectants... and tequila... and a shaman.

Ya's gotta cook 'em at elebenty tousand degrees for 2 days, then 40 minutes in 6 molar sulfuric acid.
Then the shaman must cast all teh ebil custard spirits outta the empty bottles.
(If you don't have a shaman, a midget will do ;))

Then, the final step in the sterilization process......

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...and then after ya drink the tequila.... yer' ready to mix! :)
In a former life I used to decon rad con contamination. I can get about as sterile as I want. Seems that anything above soap and water is just wasting time.

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Lil secret... Clear nail polish. ;)

I had seen that tip before and thought it a fine one! I then checked out what a small bottle of nail polish would cost me. I already had a roll of multi purpose tape and while that nail polish does have other uses; I could not think of one for me.

Please remember than when one looks up the word "thrifty" (or "Cheap Ba$tard") in a dictionary, often you can find my picture ...right there.:D

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I had seen that tip before and thought it a fine one! I then checked out what a small bottle of nail polish would cost me. I already had a roll of multi purpose tape and while that nail polish does have other uses; I could not think of one for me.

Please remember than when one looks up the word "thrifty" (or "Cheap Ba$tard") in a dictionary, often you can find my picture ...right there.:D

I'm the female variant of that. :D Besides, I can't abide the smell of nail polish, even when it's dry, it just reeks. I use tape on my syringes; the markings end up lasting longer than the syringe itself.

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Pffft... Infidel!
I'll bet you're one o' those guys that doesn't even have a machine to properly stir his juices. ...if you'll excuse the expression. o_O
I'll betch'er batteries aren't even married! :mad: They're just cohabiting!
YOUR SLUTTY BATTERIES ARE LIVING IN SINNN!!!
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Besides, everybody knows you can marry batteries by droppin' em in the crockpot for 2 hours.
Ok ok you win. I'll spend a few grand on the stuff and use rad con with contaminated asbestos controls.

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You can smell dry nail polish? :)

I've used tape too but it doesn't resist fluids as well.
My real favorite would be clear spray paint. I don't think that smells after curing.
...then again I can't smell dry nail polish. :rolleyes:

Absolutely I can smell dry nail polish. I can barely even walk past the nail salon they have in the front of Walmart stores; I have to hold my breath.

I have to wear "cheaters," reading glasses I get at the drug store -- and those lil rubber nose pieces? They're made of a plastic that smells exactly like bug spray. Everytime I get a new pair, my husband has to take the nose pieces off the old pair to replace those on the new glasses.

Once, I smelled a candle I had burning upstairs, behind a closed door -- I smelled it from downstairs; thought that was pretty weird, so I went up to check it -- it had exploded the glass ashtray it was sitting in, and caught the end of the desk on fire, which fire was about 6 inches from a plastic bottle of nail polish remover. Thank GOD I have a nose like a fucking beagle, or that would have been end of that apartment. As it was, it killed my boxed set of the first 3 of Anne Rice's Vampire Chronicles. :(

Andria

(ETA: all that happened when I was still a smoker -- imagine my sense of smell NOW!)
 

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That tore up thumbnail could use some work... :)

That's True!

Then again I've read on the internet that use of nail polish can cause heinnie burning. :D

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All I use are syringes. I put them away clean, so I don't need to do anything to them when I start. Just rinse 3-10 times (depending on the flavor) with hot water, then 3-5 times with filtered water. That's it.

Andria
I just rinse mine in hot tap water. I keep separate syringe for nic, another for most flavors but a different one for tobacco flavoring.
suck em full of clean water and blow it out about 6 times.
I clean immediately after use.
 

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I just rinse mine in hot tap water. I keep separate syringe for nic, another for most flavors but a different one for tobacco flavoring.
suck em full of clean water and blow it out about 6 times.
I clean immediately after use.

One of my major benefits is that I have filtered (reverse-osmosis) water right at my kitchen sink, "on tap" as it were. so after sufficient rinses with hot water to get the scent out (3-10), then I give it 2-3 rinses with the filtered water; it prevents mineral buildup, using the filtered water as the final rinse, which prolongs the useful life of the syringes.

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I have had to throw away 3 syringes in over a year of use. I currently have 5 in use and enough for 10 years in backup.
 

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You can smell dry nail polish? :)

I've used tape too but it doesn't resist fluids as well. (I keep and rinse my syringes in a cup of water while mixing)
My real favorite would be clear spray paint. I don't think that smells after curing.
...then again I can't smell dry nail polish. :rolleyes:

I am blessed/cursed with a phenomenal olfactory sense and find this to be unlikely. Once the solvent evaporates, there ain't nothin' to smell, Andria. Honestly! :)

Much as with faux marble or an ethyl wash; when it's dry, the odor molecules can;t move any more.
 

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I am blessed/cursed with a phenomenal olfactory sense and find this to be unlikely. Once the solvent evaporates, there ain't nothin' to smell, Andria. Honestly! :)

Much as with faux marble or an ethyl wash; when it's dry, the odor molecules can;t move any more.

Nah... I can still smell it, even when it's dry. I tried an experiment a few months back, painted a nail outdoors, and stayed out there till it was COMPLETELY dry, and then waited a few more hours.... held it to my nose, and yeah, I can still smell it... and I HATE that smell.

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I am blessed/cursed with a phenomenal olfactory sense and find this to be unlikely. Once the solvent evaporates, there ain't nothin' to smell, Andria. Honestly! :)

Much as with faux marble or an ethyl wash; when it's dry, the odor molecules can;t move any more.
Enamel paint can take months to fully dry/cure.
 

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Nah... I can still smell it, even when it's dry. I tried an experiment a few months back, painted a nail outdoors, and stayed out there till it was COMPLETELY dry, and then waited a few more hours.... held it to my nose, and yeah, I can still smell it... and I HATE that smell.

I do not envy your olfactory acuity. Mine's pretty good; I'm still enjoying the delightful scent of AP after I spilled a drop in the mixing room a couple of months ago and I'm good about alerting my wife that the cat's litter box needs attention ... from the car ... as we pull in the driveway. :D
 

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I do not envy your olfactory acuity. Mine's pretty good; I'm still enjoying the delightful scent of AP after I spilled a drop in the mixing room a couple of months ago and I'm good about alerting my wife that the cat's litter box needs attention ... from the car ... as we pull in the driveway. :D

I bet your wife appreciates that about as much as my husband does. :D My ears are like that too.... my husband says if by some chance, I don't HEAR the neighbors fart, I'll definitely smell it. :D

In my own defense, I believe it's a manifestation of the "hypervigilance" symptom of PTSD -- my passive senses which work even when I'm sleeping.

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I do, but I wash out bottles and sometimes use droppers to measure :)

Dang, I knew that a moment after I posted. I (sorta) do the same thing but I use disposable pipettes for flavorings (must order more) and run the bottles through the dishwasher, having come up with a method to disassemble the glass dripper from the squeezy part & place the breakables where they don't. Break, that is. :D
 

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Dang, I knew that a moment after I posted. I (sorta) do the same thing but I use disposable pipettes for flavorings (must order more) and run the bottles through the dishwasher, having come up with a method to disassemble the glass dripper from the squeezy part & place the breakables where they don't. Break, that is. :D
Yup, I also use the dishwasher sometimes! I do occasionally use pippettes, but I keep running out LOL
 

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I clean my DIY gear with dish soap and water especially the glass jars I use to store my juice in. Just plain hot water doesn't cut the film inside the jars so they become hazy in time. I have also washed my kanger subtanks in soap and water(totally torn apart) and as long as they are rinsed completely I have had no soapy taste. Ejuice is a oil and oil needs to be cut to be cleaned properly.
 

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I clean my DIY gear with dish soap and water especially the glass jars I use to store my juice in. Just plain hot water doesn't cut the film inside the jars so they become hazy in time. I have also washed my kanger subtanks in soap and water(totally torn apart) and as long as they are rinsed completely I have had no soapy taste. Ejuice is a oil and oil needs to be cut to be cleaned properly.

Ejuice is very definitely NOT oil; it is water soluble. If it was oil, we'd all have lipoid pneumonia.

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Ok who has the chemical formula especially for holy cow pleased as punch, 100 dollar pumpkin pie and drip vaults punched

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Ejuice is a oil and oil needs to be cut to be cleaned properly.

I know Andrea already addressed this, but in case any newer person reads this thread, it's worth repeating.

We are not vaping oil.

There are an unknown number of people mixing juices with oil-based extracts, and this is a bad idea. You can tell if you have oil in your juice because the oil will bead up in the solution.

The reason you might not be able to clean juice off vape parts right away is because the juice is thicker than water. That doesn't mean juice is non-water soluble. That annoying film on your windows isn't oil either. There are plenty of reputable websites available where you can read about the chemical composition of PG/VG.

Cleaning: 1 tablespoon of bleach per gallon of water is an accepted sanitizing solution for the food service industry. Clean, sanitize, rinse, dry.
 

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I know Andrea already addressed this, but in case any newer person reads this thread, it's worth repeating.

We are not vaping oil.

There are an unknown number of people mixing juices with oil-based extracts, and this is a bad idea. You can tell if you have oil in your juice because the oil will bead up in the solution.

The reason you might not be able to clean juice off vape parts right away is because the juice is thicker than water. That doesn't mean juice is non-water soluble. That annoying film on your windows isn't oil either. There are plenty of reputable websites available where you can read about the chemical composition of PG/VG.

Cleaning: 1 tablespoon of bleach per gallon of water is an accepted sanitizing solution for the food service industry. Clean, sanitize, rinse, dry.

Yep. And if you use high-PG, you don't even get the annoying film. I've been blowing vapor at my flat-screen here for 2 yrs.... no film. I dust it every few days, and that's all it needs. I've been vaping in our truck for 2 yrs.... no more film than would otherwise be the case, and a hell of a lot less than when I was filling the truck with smoke.

And again... vaping oil will lead to lipoid pneumonia, so just don't. PG/VG are not oils, they just feel "oily" on the fingers.

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According to Nude Nicotine, hot water only sans soap/detergent. I probe the stream of my kitchen faucet and start rinsing at the 140°F mark.
 

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Ejuice is very definitely NOT oil; it is water soluble. If it was oil, we'd all have lipoid pneumonia.

Andria

I know its not a oil as per say but what's on the inside of my windshield or on the inside of the windows in my office that just smears when you wipe it?
I've tried ammonia that doesn't work, windex that doesn't work, window cleaners that just kinda work. I had to use Mr Clean to cut the window film that again kinda worked but the film came back very quickly.
 

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I know its not a oil as per say but what's on the inside of my windshield or on the inside of the windows in my office that just smears when you wipe it?
I've tried ammonia that doesn't work, windex that doesn't work, window cleaners that just kinda work. I had to use Mr Clean to cut the window film that again kinda worked but the film came back very quickly.

It's the universe telling you that you use too much VG in your vape. :D

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@Alter

Think of that film more like a syrup. Rub it and it just smears.

http://vapingunderground.com/threads/cleaning-car-windows.35961/#post-848105

That's one of several threads on the topic. It has my recipe for homemade window cleaner... water, vinegar and rubbing alcohol only. No detergents or other cleaning solutions that leave streaks. Straight rubbing alcohol will work on windows as well, but it gets pricey after a while; it's overkill as well.

Keep a pile of rags handy that haven't been washed with fabric softener. Dump a bunch of that window cleaner on a giant rag, turning the rag occasionally. Wipe the remaining liquid off the windows with paper towels.

I just did that this morning on our gigantic wall-sized window in our house. Worked quick. Didn't need a second application.
 

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@Alter

Think of that film more like a syrup. Rub it and it just smears.

http://vapingunderground.com/threads/cleaning-car-windows.35961/#post-848105

That's one of several threads on the topic. It has my recipe for homemade window cleaner... water, vinegar and rubbing alcohol only. No detergents or other cleaning solutions that leave streaks. Straight rubbing alcohol will work on windows as well, but it gets pricey after a while; it's overkill as well.

Keep a pile of rags handy that haven't been washed with fabric softener. Dump a bunch of that window cleaner on a giant rag, turning the rag occasionally. Wipe the remaining liquid off the windows with paper towels.

I just did that this morning on our gigantic wall-sized window in our house. Worked quick. Didn't need a second application.

I also like alcohol for cleaning; at the dollar store, I get 50% isopropyl, then dilute it half again with purified water.... makes an outstanding cleaner for my glasses, my monitors, and my syringes if the flavor I used was very smelly, though naturally I then rinse the syringes *extremely* with hot water and then purified water.

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Windex works on the windows and mirrors in my house!

I'm too cheap to use the real thing.:)

Instead...
Glass Cleaner/All Purpose Cleaner

  • 1 cup Water
  • 1/4 cup White Vinegar
  • 2 to 3 drops Dish Soap
  • Combine water, white vinegar, and dish soap in an empty spray bottle
-The Frugal Girls

http://thefrugalgirls.com/2010/11/homemade-glass-cleaner.html

If it just doesn't seem right, add blue food coloring.:D

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I'm too cheap to use the real thing.:)

Instead...
Glass Cleaner/All Purpose Cleaner

  • 1 cup Water
  • 1/4 cup White Vinegar
  • 2 to 3 drops Dish Soap
  • Combine water, white vinegar, and dish soap in an empty spray bottle
-The Frugal Girls

http://thefrugalgirls.com/2010/11/homemade-glass-cleaner.html

If it just doesn't seem right, add blue food coloring.:D

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Yup, I've tried that. But the ammonia in the Windex seems to do a better job at cutting the film!
 

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