Can't decide what MTL RTA I should buy. HELP

Kiicki · Mar 12, 2016

I need a MTL RTA for when I'm traveling and when I vape in public. Tanks that is for lung inhaling produces to much vapor and I don't like it if I lower the power to get less vape. I also don't prefer to keep the vapor in my lungs for a longer period to reduce the vapor. I rather get a good MTL with less vapor vs a bad direct lung hit with less vapor.

What I'm looking for in a MTL RTA is this:
#1 No or little leaking since the tank will be in my pocket a lot, it will probably also be sideways.
#2 Not huge vapor since I will be vaping in public if I have to
#3 Adjustable airflow or at least tight airflow. Non of those tanks that is for MTL but is to airy.
#4 Top fill is a bonus.
#5 Single coil (I prefer this when MTL)

f1r3b1rd · Mar 12, 2016

my three go to RTAs for MTL are a kayfun4, Hurricane and an Aqua v2. of the three the kf4 is the only one with top fill and the kayfun4 and hurricane are both single coil; and the aqua v2 can be single or dual.

f1r3b1rd · Mar 12, 2016

here is a thread with a lot of MTL gear
http://vapingunderground.com/threads/next-gen-shorty-tanks-designed-for-mtl-use-ex-smokers.147757/

vuJim · Mar 12, 2016

Given my druthers, I vape high-VG with an RDA or RTA. But that's not always workable. So I've got a Kanger Protank III Mini, with the optional AFC ring, and an iTaste VV4 to power it. I get a satisfactory hybrid MTL/DL vape from that combination, and it's kind of stealthy.
Alternatively: My ELeaf GS-Tank + Joyetech eVic-VTC Mini.

AlbyKortoona · Mar 12, 2016

No top fill, well you can fill it 1/2 full from the top, but this is one of my fav mouth to lung RTA's.

https://www.fasttech.com/product/2778100-ubertoot-uta2-styled-rta-rebuildable-tank-atomizer

pulsevape · Mar 12, 2016

The Origen genisis v2 mkII

BoomStick · Mar 12, 2016

You're getting great recommendations. Good stuff. Here's another.

Kayfun 3.1 (I prefer an Ehpro)

The base design and bottom cap make it leak proof. Super simple and a buzillion accessories are available for it so you can customize the crap out of it. Happy hunting. Let us know what you get and how you like it.

ej1024 · Mar 12, 2016

Serpent RTA by WOTOFO
You have to know what you doing though!!

Vape On

Emberwilde · Mar 12, 2016

I currently use a Taifun GT 2 but am waiting on delivery of a new one I ordered from Fasttech which looks amazing, the Ehpro Bachelor.

Kiicki · Mar 12, 2016

ej1024 said:
Serpent RTA by WOTOFO
You have to know what you doing though!!

Vape On

Many good recommendations here, but I got a problem with the Serpent RTA. Isn't that one of airiest RTA's out there?
And even if you could close it all the way down, would it still good? I have tried tanks that have adjustable airflow that can give tight draws but it's just not the same. I prefer tanks that was designed specifically for MTL.

ej1024 · Mar 12, 2016

Kiicki said:
Many good recommendations here, but I got a problem with the Serpent RTA. Isn't that one of airiest RTA's out there?
And even if you could close it all the way down, would it still good? I have tried tanks that have adjustable airflow that can give tight draws but it's just not the same. I prefer tanks that was designed specifically for MTL.

Well it's a SINGLE COIL OPTION RTA
it's airy compare to a KAYFUN, but it's not airy compare to a MUTANK/GRIFFIN ETcc.... you really want a tight draw RTA get a KAYFUN or TAIFUN GT

Vape On

Kiicki · Mar 12, 2016

ej1024 said:
Well it's a SINGLE COIL OPTION RTA
it's airy compare to a KAYFUN, but it's not airy compare to a MUTANK/GRIFFIN ETcc.... you really want a tight draw RTA get a KAYFUN or TAIFUN GT

Vape On

Yeah, it's still one of the most airy single coil RTA's out there. It just doesn't fit the "MTL" profile if you know what I mean.
Maybe it is good for MTL, I don't know since I have never tried it. Sure I want a "tight" draw. I'm aiming to MTL.
MTL with a airy tank is just awful in my opinion.
I have considered some of the Kayfuns but I always find some weird problem with them. Weird filling options, weird way to adjust the airflow and things like that. Even the newest Kayfun has the problem with adjustable airflow.

ej1024 · Mar 12, 2016

Kiicki said:
Yeah, it's still one of the most airy single coil RTA's out there. It just doesn't fit the "MTL" profile if you know what I mean.
Maybe it is good for MTL, I don't know since I have never tried it. Sure I want a "tight" draw. I'm aiming to MTL.
MTL with a airy tank is just awful in my opinion.
I have considered some of the Kayfuns but I always find some weird problem with them. Weird filling options, weird way to adjust the airflow and things like that. Even the newest Kayfun has the problem with adjustable airflow.

TAIFUN GT...

Vape On

Huckleberried · Mar 12, 2016

Bottom fill, but adjustable draw.
Goblin Mini v1 (v2 has top fill but no adapter for single coil to my understanding)
Lemo Drop
Aqua v2 (can be found VERY reasonably priced)
Delta 2 has an available RBA

All are great for flavor. There are better ones out there, but these I have experience with.

Finding an MTL tank with disposable coils might be easier. There are some REALLY good ones out there, too.

AlbyKortoona · Mar 12, 2016

BoomStick said:
You're getting great recommendations. Good stuff. Here's another.

Kayfun 3.1 (I prefer an Ehpro)

The base design and bottom cap make it leak proof. Super simple and a buzillion accessories are available for it so you can customize the crap out of it. Happy hunting. Let us know what you get and how you like it.

I like that 3.1 by ehpro, the Kayfun Lite Plus V2 is another good one and I got the 3.1 for $6.99 and the Lite for $9.99...

AlbyKortoona · Mar 12, 2016

Huckleberried said:
Finding an MTL tank with disposable coils might be easier. There are some REALLY good ones out there, too.

Arrrgghhh, blasphemy...

Huckleberried · Mar 12, 2016

anschutz54 said:
Arrrgghhh, blasphemy...

I know, I know, LOL. I prefer to rebuild, too, but finding stuff for MTL is proving difficult, though more are coming out lately. Hoping it becomes a bit of a trend for those of us that prefer a tighter draw. Some sub tanks are good, closed off a bit, some are still too airy due to the AFC and the coils.

MTL vapers are vapers too!!

(and we want more than just protanks and nautilus)

BoomStick · Mar 12, 2016

anschutz54 said:
I like that 3.1 by ehpro, the Kayfun Lite Plus V2 is another good one and I got the 3.1 for $6.99 and the Lite for $9.99...

An ehpro 3.1 for $6.99?

AlbyKortoona · Mar 12, 2016

Yep, did a google search and found a clearance sale but of course I can't find it now. If I find it will post.

Did find where I got the Lite. https://www.vaporrange.com/EHPro-Kayfun-Lite-V2-22mm-RBA-Atty-p/ehp-kayfunliteplusv2.htm It came with the new style drip, not what is pictured

I prefer the ehpro clone, but for this price could put up with an hcigar

http://www.vaporbank.com/shop/index.php?p=product&id=3437

Innova · Mar 12, 2016

I still break out my lemo drop from time to time.

Huckleberried · Mar 12, 2016

anschutz54 said:
Did find where I got the Lite. https://www.vaporrange.com/EHPro-Kayfun-Lite-V2-22mm-RBA-Atty-p/ehp-kayfunliteplusv2.htm It came with the new style drip, not what is pictured

Another dude here gets stuff from them all the time. Great deals and I always forget about them.

Huckleberried · Mar 12, 2016

Innova said:
I still break out my lemo drop from time to time.

I just brought mine back out a couple days ago. Forgot how good the flavor is, but gives me a bit of trouble wicked with rayon.

Zamazam · Mar 12, 2016

expromizer 2.1 or 2.0 http://exvape.de/eXpromizer:::1.html?language=en

Best MTL I have ever owned.

mikeyboy74 · Mar 12, 2016

Huckleberried said:
Bottom fill, but adjustable draw.
Goblin Mini v1 (v2 has top fill but no adapter for single coil to my understanding)
Lemo Drop
Aqua v2 (can be found VERY reasonably priced)
Delta 2 has an available RBA

All are great for flavor. There are better ones out there, but these I have experience with.

Finding an MTL tank with disposable coils might be easier. There are some REALLY good ones out there, too.

Can you suggest a few with prebuilt coils that might work as either restrictive DL or looser MTL? Same interests as the OP here. And, our state is voting on March 16 to ban inside public place Vaping, and to add a big fat tax. Uninformed SOB's they are.

Looked at Bachelor, but I've not seen anyone stock the ready to wick semi prebuilt coils yet. Will check again tonight.

f1r3b1rd · Mar 12, 2016

Huckleberried said:
I know, I know, LOL. I prefer to rebuild, too, but finding stuff for MTL is proving difficult, though more are coming out lately. Hoping it becomes a bit of a trend for those of us that prefer a tighter draw. Some sub tanks are good, closed off a bit, some are still too airy due to the AFC and the coils.

MTL vapers are vapers too!! (and we want more than just protanks and nautilus)

telling ya the hurricane firebird from ephoenix
http://www.3fvape.com/rebuildable-a...eel-glass-5ml-22mm-diameter.html#.VuSYH2y7W00

glass tank and a perfect mtl single coil vape

Huckleberried · Mar 12, 2016

mikeyboy74 said:
Can you suggest a few with prebuilt coils that might work as either restrictive DL or looser MTL? Same interests as the OP here. And, our state is voting on March 16 to ban inside public place Vaping, and to add a big fat tax. Uninformed SOB's they are.

Looked at Bachelor, but I've not seen anyone stock the ready to wick semi prebuilt coils yet. Will check again tonight.

Eleaf GS Tank, (not necessarily the GS Air, but they use the same coils). Great flavor, less restricted MTL, and open wide up, approaching DL, but not quite DL, LOL.
Delta 2 tank (takes coils also has RBA available)
Kanger Subtank nano

First 2 have the best flavor, but all have adjustable airflow, delta also has adjustable juice flow. These are just the ones I have that I'd recommend. If you don't mind fiddling with a tank, the UD Balrog is an excellent flavor producer, but can be REALLY fiddly at times.

Heabob · Mar 12, 2016

All are cheap, and on the small side, and great for MTL.

Anyvape Davide BCC Glassomizer with Kanger Airflow Controller.(bottom fill, uses Kanger PT2 coils and can be rebuilt)
Joyetech Tron-S with 1.0 ohm CLR heads, bottom fill, but can rebuild too.
Joyetech Cubis with 1.5 ohm Clapton, top fill but you have to buy coils, as the RBA head is crappy.

AstroTurf · Mar 13, 2016

KayFun Mini V3

Markw4mms · Mar 13, 2016

I also recommend the Lemo Drop, it's not a top fill, but is a very well built tank.

vuJim · Mar 13, 2016

Huckleberried said:
Eleaf GS Tank, (not necessarily the GS Air, but they use the same coils). Great flavor, less restricted MTL, and open wide up, approaching DL, but not quite DL, LOL.

This ^^^^^, if what you seek is either an MTL or MTL/DL "hybrid" kind of vape.

Huckleberried · Mar 13, 2016

vuJim said:
This ^^^^^, if what you seek is either an MTL or MTL/DL "hybrid" kind of vape.

Hybrid... yeah. I can see that, LOL.

vuJim · Mar 13, 2016

Huckleberried said:
Hybrid... yeah. I can see that, LOL.

Yeah

I start out with a short DL and finish-up MTL. TBH: I prefer DL, but that works when I can't.

Huckleberried · Mar 13, 2016

vuJim said:
Yeah I start out with a short DL and finish-up MTL. TBH: I prefer DL, but that works when I can't.

Just really great flavor!

bcr500 · Mar 13, 2016

Aspire Natalis

mikeyboy74 · Mar 13, 2016

Thanks everyone. I do line the idea of a tighter DL/MTL, and will review all these and make a pick.

Would these be OK with 50/50 6 nic as equivalent to the 70/30 or max VG 3 nic in a Crown or tfv4? I don't want to back to the ego days where 18 nic might have been on the weak side. Also, I occasionally get a 15 ml 6 nic to spice up the Kanger mini a little, so I usually use the Kanger at 4-4.5 nic.

I have a 1.5 in Kanger now. It's bearable, but any of the 0.5 's are much better. It's like the Kanger can do MTL but flavor and vapor are much better in sub ohm mode. Hopefully some others here are more versatile for the hybrid Vape.

VinnySem · Mar 14, 2016

If you're interested, I have an authentic Kayfun lite I'll sell ya cheap. Tight draw, single coil that's super easy to build on, I've never had a leaking problem with it. I'm a MTL guy too, but it was a little too tight for my liking. I switched to the v4 which can be opened up a little more.

AlbyKortoona · Mar 14, 2016

How cheap?

VinnySem · Mar 14, 2016

Private message me.

BoomStick · Mar 14, 2016

A reasonably priced, authentic Kayfun would be a great acquisition. BUY IT!!

f1r3b1rd · Mar 14, 2016

^^^ what he said

AlbyKortoona · Mar 14, 2016

It's still available.

BoomStick · Mar 14, 2016

Wish I wasn't broke.

VinnySem · Mar 14, 2016

f1r3b1rd said:
telling ya the hurricane firebird from ephoenix
http://www.3fvape.com/rebuildable-a...eel-glass-5ml-22mm-diameter.html#.VuSYH2y7W00

glass tank and a perfect mtl single coil vape

Do you have this tank? Thinking about replacing my KFV4s with these

f1r3b1rd · Mar 14, 2016

VinnySem said:
Do you have this tank? Thinking about replacing my KFV4s with these

not yet, I'm waiting to hear back from a friend to see what kind of deal I can make on one.
I have the hurricane which is pretty much the same thing only with a different tank.

WP_20160309_12_42_41_Pro%202_zpsuf4qfiiq.jpg

VinnySem · Mar 14, 2016

f1r3b1rd said:
not yet, I'm waiting to hear back from a friend to see what kind of deal I can make on one.
I have the hurricane which is pretty much the same thing only with a different tank.

Is yours a clone? And if so which did you get?

riverdan · Mar 14, 2016

Huckleberried said:
Bottom fill, but adjustable draw.
Goblin Mini v1 (v2 has top fill but no adapter for single coil to my understanding)
Lemo Drop
Aqua v2 (can be found VERY reasonably priced)
Delta 2 has an available RBA

All are great for flavor. There are better ones out there, but these I have experience with.

Finding an MTL tank with disposable coils might be easier. There are some REALLY good ones out there, too.

I thought I remembered looking this up the other day

Goblin Mini V2

1.Top filling

2.Double pendulum air ring

3.Ceramic single coil adapter

4.Drip Tip and chimney with rifling line

5.Much bigger build deck

6.Full SS 304 body + heat resistant pyrex tank

7.Height: 28.6mm (exclude drip tip & 510 thread),

8.Diameter:22mm，Juice capacity: 3ML

9.color:Black,Steel

Huckleberried · Mar 14, 2016

riverdan said:
I thought I remembered looking this up the other day

Goblin Mini V2

1.Top filling

2.Double pendulum air ring

3.Ceramic single coil adapter

4.Drip Tip and chimney with rifling line

5.Much bigger build deck

6.Full SS 304 body + heat resistant pyrex tank

7.Height: 28.6mm (exclude drip tip & 510 thread),

8.Diameter:22mm，Juice capacity: 3ML

9.color:Black,Steel

Thank you. I may have been thinking of the nano.

riverdan · Mar 14, 2016

No problemo.

They don't actually list the adapter in the box contents which is weird.

Hopefully someone that has one can confirm.

Huckleberried · Mar 14, 2016

riverdan said:
No problemo.

They don't actually list the adapter in the box contents which is weird.

Hopefully someone that has one can confirm.

@Brewbear should be able to, or @CJ.

f1r3b1rd · Mar 14, 2016

VinnySem said:
Is yours a clone? And if so which did you get?

mine is not, that I am aware of. But, the ones at 3fvape are super high quality!
in fact I'm waitng fo them to get the firebird in stock so that I can get one. - the authentic is in the 350$ neighborhood. - I don't care if its named after me, I am not dropping that much on a tank

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