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I love how the SJW mindset stumps for socialism... ask the Germans, and the Jews how well that worked for them.
 

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A common misnomer is "locked and loaded" most people think its pertaining to a safety Lock after its loaded.........its in effect; "locked", Mag in the weapon....."loaded" , a round in the chamber........ready to roll

This phrase refers to the actions required to prepare a gun for firing. "Lock" is an archaic term for what is now called the "action" or the "receiver". It was originally called the "lock" because the mechanism locked the hammer back in the cocked position. The trigger releases the lock to fire the weapon. "Load" is to load the cartridge into the firearm, or the charge and ball in a muzzle loaded musket. It simply means get ready.
 

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I wonder if half the gun guys in the forum would consider me a "gun nut" compared to what they are...hmm
If you own 5-7 guns do you consider yourself a gun nut? If I own almost 30 different firearms do you consider me a gun nut or something else entirely?
 

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This phrase refers to the actions required to prepare a gun for firing. "Lock" is an archaic term for what is now called the "action" or the "receiver". It was originally called the "lock" because the mechanism locked the hammer back in the cocked position. The trigger releases the lock to fire the weapon. "Load" is to load the cartridge into the firearm, or the charge and ball in a muzzle loaded musket. It simply means get ready.
To me all of the above fits; Locked = my magizine is properly installed and not going to fall out, the bolt is in battery ready to fire or locked. But I could also figure locked as meaning the safety is engaged.
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I answer the question " how many guns are enough " the same way I would answer " how many PVs are enough " just one or 2 more
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The term "gun nut" is a classic liberal attack on a law abiding , gun owning, 2nd amendment defending, America loving , Patriot
O I know, but I dont mind when Im referred to as one....its better then "hoarder" or doomsday prepper"...as I only like to collect pistols and rifles and not much else. I see them as machine art, as a precision instrument, and a fun day in the woods. Unfortunately things have been getting more costly in the last 6 years.
 

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To me all of the above fits; Locked = my magizine is properly installed and not going to fall out, the bolt is in battery ready to fire or locked. But I could also figure locked as meaning the safety is engaged.
Never was in the Armed Forces, but enjoy my 2nd Ammendment Rights afforded me by those who have served...in part. Thank You!
You have hit the nail on the head, as far as the terminology argument has gone for a long time. You have used the term 'locked' while referring to the magazine inserted correctly, the bolt being in the battery and ready to fire or 'locked' and also 'locked' referring to the safety being engaged. Many have argued that 'locked' referred to the twisting action of the bolt (AR-10 or 15 style weapons, such as the M-16) that 'locked' the bolt into the chamber/battery/firing position.

There is more historical reference to 'lock and load' from WW II and the M-1 Garand (M-1 Thumb). All in all, everyone is correct and it usually comes down to a basic stubborn argument over terminology. The exception to the 'you are all correct regardless of terminology' train of thought usually goes off track when referring to Magazine vs Clip. The M-1 used a clip. The M-16 or modern handguns use magazines.
 

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Funny how they use that old Ronnie in that pic. I mean seeing as how he was the one who signed off on banning the sale of new automatic weapons, pushed the Brady Bill, supported assault weapon bans after he was president, and instituted mandatory waiting periods for handguns while he was the governor of California (Mulford Act). Just saying...
Ouch! Now if that`s not a Painful Truth..?...Politics as usual though..IMO
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You have hit the nail on the head, as far as the terminology argument has gone for a long time. You have used the term 'locked' while referring to the magazine inserted correctly, the bolt being in the battery and ready to fire or 'locked' and also 'locked' referring to the safety being engaged. Many have argued that 'locked' referred to the twisting action of the bolt (AR-10 or 15 style weapons, such as the M-16) that 'locked' the bolt into the chamber/battery/firing position.

There is more historical reference to 'lock and load' from WW II and the M-1 Garand (M-1 Thumb). All in all, everyone is correct and it usually comes down to a basic stubborn argument over terminology. The exception to the 'you are all correct regardless of terminology' train of thought usually goes off track when referring to Magazine vs Clip. The M-1 used a clip. The M-16 or modern handguns use magazines.
As in `stripper clip` ! ding, ding, ding! That`s what I`m talking about! not a stickler about it though....cool forum and as usual, easily drawn away from my original intent on finding Vape info.and talk firearms..lol
 

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I wonder if half the gun guys in the forum would consider me a "gun nut" compared to what they are...hmm
If you own 5-7 guns do you consider yourself a gun nut? If I own almost 30 different firearms do you consider me a gun nut or something else entirely?
Personally, I do not believe quantity of weapons possessed equals "gun nuts". They are many who collect (not fire, but collect and display) firearms from different time periods or styles and they probably are called 'gun nuts'. There are others who have a small collection of assorted weapons that are maintained in operation condition and ammunition is readily available for them. In my case, I have a few handguns (all different frame size and caliber), semi-auto and revolver, that I carry openly or concealed (Yes, open carry is legal in Arizona). I have a 12 ga. as a back up for home defense, as I prefer my Taurus Judge with .410 000Buck. I have owned several rifles over the years, but have evenly sold them all off. I am currently in the 'justify to the wife' over picking up an AR-10 from POF (Patriot Ordnance Factory). Cost is the issue on this one so far and I am losing the argument
 

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Personally, I do not believe quantity of weapons possessed equals "gun nuts". They are many who collect (not fire, but collect and display) firearms from different time periods or styles and they probably are called 'gun nuts'. There are others who have a small collection of assorted weapons that are maintained in operation condition and ammunition is readily available for them. In my case, I have a few handguns (all different frame size and caliber), semi-auto and revolver, that I carry openly or concealed (Yes, open carry is legal in Arizona). I have a 12 ga. as a back up for home defense, as I prefer my Taurus Judge with .410 000Buck. I have owned several rifles over the years, but have evenly sold them all off. I am currently in the 'justify to the wife' over picking up an AR-10 from POF (Patriot Ordnance Factory). Cost is the issue on this one so far and I am losing the argument
DPMS has a $200 dollar rebate going on right now...everyone who enjoys the shooting sports and such should own a LR308...tell her huff-N-Stuff say`s so..lol, I would like to add a Judge to my collection, thinking that would be a great choice for CC..vehicle anti- car jacking tool.
 

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I wonder if half the gun guys in the forum would consider me a "gun nut" compared to what they are...hmm
If you own 5-7 guns do you consider yourself a gun nut? If I own almost 30 different firearms do you consider me a gun nut or something else entirely?
Seems normal to me


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Personally, I do not believe quantity of weapons possessed equals "gun nuts". They are many who collect (not fire, but collect and display) firearms from different time periods or styles and they probably are called 'gun nuts'. There are others who have a small collection of assorted weapons that are maintained in operation condition and ammunition is readily available for them. In my case, I have a few handguns (all different frame size and caliber), semi-auto and revolver, that I carry openly or concealed (Yes, open carry is legal in Arizona). I have a 12 ga. as a back up for home defense, as I prefer my Taurus Judge with .410 000Buck. I have owned several rifles over the years, but have evenly sold them all off. I am currently in the 'justify to the wife' over picking up an AR-10 from POF (Patriot Ordnance Factory). Cost is the issue on this one so far and I am losing the argument
I dont know if you saw my posts in the other firearm thread, I thought I saw you in it...
Im having the same argument with my wife, Ive wanted a Kimber 1911 for a nice carry piece and I think this year is the year Ill buy one...Crimson Carry II Super-She doesnt see spending 1500 on a pistol when I already have a few. She doesnt seem to understand the quality and craftsmanship in it either...I also was looking at a Serbu SS 870 with the Breacher Muzzle but that'll be another fight...another day :rolleyes:

She doesnt hear me even mention anything when she wants something....o_O
 

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...Im having the same argument with my wife, Ive wanted a Kimber 1911 for a nice carry piece and I think this year is the year Ill buy one...
Just a little bit of Kimber eye candy to keep you motivated @raymo2u! I had the same argument a year ago when I got my Springfield Lightweight Operator.

 
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That is a nice 1911 but Im VERY picky when looking through them...I like the Black slide/barrel, steel frame and red stained grips, no rail. I want slide cuts front and back, 30ppi on the back and 25ppi checkering on the front strap with a deep undercut trigger guard. Also a Beveled mag entry, wide ambi saftey, Wilson Combat style hammer and I do fancy the SW E series trigger (the one with the E cut into it) I prefer tritium nightsights but also like fiber (red rear/green front) and a mag plate...
Starter guns of choice would be:STI Escort or 4" Lawman, Kimber Crimson Carry or Super Carry, or S&W PC.
BUT if I could find a nice Detonics Street Master then I'd start with that...Other pistols, shotguns and rifles I dont think about like that for some reason...

The Bigger Slide on the Smaller frame would make me happy...
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Not as bad, but kind of like my desire to find a 1911 made by Singer (actually has the Singer stamp). Produced during WW II and very rare and expensive today. I know nothing of Detonics except that their current 1911 is F'n Ugly.
Detonics was one of the only Manufacturers that made a 5" slide (Fullsize Slide) on a Officers Frame (Ultra/Compact) 1911 and did this in the late 80's, it was a hit for CC Holders due to it having the Accuracy of a Fullsize but the Footprint of a 3" 1911. The slide isn't what matters when carrying concealed, its usually the grip that shows through the clothing and it was the perfect combo for a 1911 crack-shot. It may not be pretty to many but its one of the only guns where the consumer was listened to and not many was were due to the company being the size a a Dollar Tree when producing them after hours.
I would love to due some Checkering, Modern Milling, and Personalizing to one if I ever got the chance to buy one and I wouldnt hesitate to drop 3-5k on one.
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Theres been one or 2 Similar guns out there from Colt but they were made in small Quantities.
 
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Detonics was one of the only Manufacturers that made a 5" slide (Fullsize Slide) on a Officers Frame (Ultra/Compact) 1911 and did this in the late 80's, it was a hit for CC Holders due to it having the Accuracy of a Fullsize but the Footprint of a 3" 1911. The slide isn't what matters when carrying concealed, its usually the grip that shows through the clothing and it was the perfect combo for a 1911 crack-shot. It may not be pretty to many but its one of the only guns where the consumer was listened to and not many was were due to the company being the size a a Dollar Tree when producing them after hours.
I would love to due some Checkering, Modern Milling, and Personalizing to one if I ever got the chance to buy one and I wouldnt hesitate to drop 3-5k on one.
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Theres been one or 2 Similar guns out there from Colt but they were made in small Quantities.

Great idea for CC use, but it is just 'wrong' looking to me with that short grip and back strap for a 1911. I sure could have used one of these in the mid 80's when I lived in WA and wore a shoulder holster and coat/jacket everyday.
 

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I wonder if half the gun guys in the forum would consider me a "gun nut" compared to what they are...hmm
If you own 5-7 guns do you consider yourself a gun nut? If I own almost 30 different firearms do you consider me a gun nut or something else entirely?
I would consider you ready. The question is, if you had to " bug out" because the shit hits the fan do you know what 2 or 3 guns you would grab?
 

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