30 year + smoker trying to quit

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  1. snake94115

    snake94115 Platinum Contributor Member For 2 Years

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    The first couple of weeks will be the hardest.After that it is smooth sailing.
     
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    This is the best mod I have owned so far. https://www.180smoke.ca/sigelei-kaos-spectrum-230w-mod The buttons are far enough from the atomizer that spilled juice doesn't get into the switches if you over fill or have a leak. 510 pin is solid and seems not to let juice inside the mod. All I do to clean it is wipe the top and blow excess juice out of the hole.. Sometimes I wipe with a bit of left over cotton from my wicks.
    230W should be more than enough to handle any tank you want to use. I vape around 115w.
    I've use this mod with an IJOY RDTA combo, various RDAs and my kanger toptank mini rba (around 30w) with great results. I also tend to doze off watching tv and drop this mod a few times a day, and it's still working like new. I wouldn't toss it off a roof, but a 3ft drop never damaged mine.
     
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    gbalkam Silver Contributor Member For 1 Year ECF Refugee

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    Use a mouth to lung tank with 18mg nicotine. (decrease as desired). When you NEED that cigarette, take a 5 minute vape break, just like you would if you were smoking a cigarette. Just sit, relax and vape until the urge passes. Keep telling yourself that you have QUIT smoking and are now a vaper.
    The worst part for me was cigarette dreams, where I would dream I was smoking and I could taste it.. GAG.. Bad enough taste that it woke me up. LOL.
     
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    The Cromwell VU Donator Diamond Contributor Member For 1 Year

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    You must decide to quit using vaping.
    It is not a totally painless process. And may not work for everyone for various reasons. Being more work than smoking not being the least of them.
    I quit a 40 yr 1-2 PAD smoking habit using cigalikes.
    AND found that I was allergic to some contents of most commercial ejuice.
    Found 1 that I could vape and then quickly moved into DIY.
    I started with 18 mg in a cigalike, now vape 1.5 mg in my DIY squonking mostly.

    SWMBO got me the overpriced cigalike kit so I figured that I MUST try it :D
    Now almost 3 yrs smoke free.
     
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    Welcome to the beginning of life without Tobacco!

    Myself I smoked for over 36 years, pack and a half a day. Tried the patch, gum, cold turkey, etc. noting worked until I tried Vaping and have been Tobacco free for over 2 years. My recommendation is to get a device for Mouth to Lung and NOT Direct to Lung. I was MTL for a few months before I transitioned to DTL. I started with an Aspire Nautilus Mini and a 30W iStick with 18mg juice, that's what got me off the Stinkies.

    My recommendation is
    • Aspire Nautilus X with the 1.5Ω
    • A decent single battery Mod, dual battery if you want the extra battery life for you'll only be vaping around 12-15W or so
    • At least 12mg nic juice
    That should get you off the Stinkies then if you like you can try subohming with a DTL kit, but first priority is to get off the Stinkies. It's not a magic bullet and you will have to make a conscience effort but it's not difficult. You'll still have a small desire for the Stinkies but with a little bit of effort you can easily get off the Stinkies. Most common in my experiance is 2-3 weeks with Vaping and no Stinkies you've done it.

    Edit: I would also highly recommend the Smoant Battlestar, that's almost a bullet proof regulated mod. It's dual battery so excellent battery life and if you choose to go subohm later more than enough power. Also it has a small form factor with excellent ergonomics
     
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  6. UncleRJ

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    Since I was a long time "Stogie Sucker", I started vaping with a Menthol 36mg of nic via a cartomizer and powered by a cigalike AKA 510 stick battery.

    And FYI I am NOT suggesting anyone use 36mg of nic!



    The guy I got them from told me that it was OK at first to alternate between smoking and vaping.

    Smoke a couple of Cig's when I get up then start vaping.

    Stick with vaping until you get to the point where you just have to have the real thing so ,do so.

    And of course, the last smoke before bedtime.

    So that is what I did while keeping in mind that I really wanted to quit via vaping.

    But every day I caught myself smoking less and vaping more.

    After about 2 weeks, I got up one morning and I decided I REALLY DID NOT want a smoke, but I did want my E-Cig and that was the end of my smoking.

    It's all right to stumble once in a while as long as you work toward the real prize of quitting the stinkies.
     
  7. AndriaD

    AndriaD Shine on, you crazy... VU Donator Diamond Contributor Member For 3 Years ECF Refugee

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    Similar to my own experience -- the more I vaped, the less I was interested in smoking; one day I lit one up, it tasted foul and had zero throat hit compared to my vape, so I wondered why I was still bothering with the stupid stinky expensive things -- and by the end of that week, I decided I really didn't need to bother with them at all.

    What's really interesting though, is that over time, as a regular non-smoking vaper, even the leg-shackles to the vape start loosening. This morning, I'd been up and around for close to an hour before it even occurred to me to vape! I've noticed the same, after meals -- there have been a couple of occasions when I found that I had finished dinner AND even done the dishes, before I even thought of picking up the vape. Sure, I do sometimes have a random thought of smoking, and thank god for the vape at such times; other times, I just crave the vape itself.... but the chains that bind me to the suck-inhale-exhale habit are certainly far looser than they have been since 1975. :)

    Granted, all this takes time; how much time is a very individual thing -- some people apparently stopped smoking just by walking by a vape store. :D It's extremely counter-productive to try and rush it; it will happen, if you just relax and let it. Don't obsess or stress over the idea of quitting, because stress will just make you wanna smoke, like for spite or something -- I swear, when I see those idiot PSAs and commercials about the dangers of smoking or that Chantix shit, I'd like to smoke just to spite them! :giggle: But I just grab my vape and holler at the TV: "JUST VAPE, YOU MORON!"

    Andria
     
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    I've used a small crock pot with water on low and steeped that way but I prefer wrapping my bottles in a dish towel and fold a heating pad in half with the juice wedged in the center. Either way works but the crock pot method is best with glass bottles.

    Sent from my N9560 using Tapatalk
     
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    Might try getting some 0 nic of the same flavors to cut down the nic in what you have already (if ur really enjoying the flavor).

    Sent from my N9560 using Tapatalk
     
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    Similar story here and great movie reference too.

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    So hot she knocked boots with (Harry Hamlin) while filming (Clash of the Titans) oh and he was dang near 20 years younger than her at the time.
     
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    Hey, check it out. There's a place you can look at videos on how to build coils. ;) :)

    The big key thing/s are having a little working knowledge of Ohm's Law and a quick search engine query can point you to enough guides, and building coils that adhere to being safe according to Ohm's Law. In simple terms, use a bit of common sense and avoid blowing your face off. That is also reasonably easy to do, using common sense and being safe that is. :) Although please understand the usual disclaimers apply and as with any endeavor, poop can and will happen.
     
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    It has been about two decades since I took electronics courses that amounted to nothing but at least I still remember Ohm's law. Thank goodness capacitance and inductance doesn't have to be calculated. If a mod is ever made that runs on AC, that would sure be a game changer.

    I am better at learning theory than I am at doing physical stuff like make new coils but I'll get there eventually. My husband probably wouldn't be too comfortable with me using his Fluke multimeter so buying my own is probably the biggest impedance (no AC extension of resistance pun intended).
     
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    Maybe it is reluctance?
     
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    For the time being, you can say so. I'm going to start out simple with factory coils.

    Forgot all about magnetic reluctance.
     
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    http://www.steam-engine.org/coil.html?
    Very handy. If you are using a regulated mod, you can even measure resistance using this calculator, as long as being off by 0.05 ohm or so wont matter. Mechanical mods you should always check resistance with a meter.

    You can get a meter for 7 to 60 dollars, depending on how fancy you go.
     
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    I hope that Henry does not impede the purchase.
     
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    gbalkam Silver Contributor Member For 1 Year ECF Refugee

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    Many members have found this video series helpful when starting out with coil building. Stick with video one until you are comfy, then advance as you are ready. You WILL mess up some wire. So don't sweat it. LOL I had like 15 feet of knotted 32ga SS when i first started. (which is why I buy 100ft spools. )
    I think what members like about that video series is the "OMG if that idiot can build coils, I surely as hell can" lol.
     
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    AndriaD Shine on, you crazy... VU Donator Diamond Contributor Member For 3 Years ECF Refugee

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    And when you first start building coils, don't worry if they're not picture perfect like all the coil porn pics -- my first efforts looked pathetic, but they vaped, and that's the most important thing. Mine STILL don't look like the coil porn pics, 3+ yrs later, they're kinda haphazard sometimes... but still, they work.

    Andria
     
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    Just going to add. Coil building is a good vape related hobby to keep you busy while you quit smoking. I once went 8 hours without a vape while building a coil. (no smokes either)
     
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    Thank you all for the encouragement. I am pretty confident I will get there one day.

    I got to start out buying my stuff already. If my husband didn't need to buy a truck and I didn't need to spend $300 on a new phone this Black Friday, I'd already be there. Both have to wait until around Black Friday now.

    Once I get my Battlestar/Nicolas/Tastemaker True setup to scratch my faux intellectual ideal smoking emulation itch, I will move onto flavors I enjoy and vaping at a higher wattage with rebuildable attys and almost certainly another mod with the Battlestar being a reliable backup.

    Throughout my life, I've been better at comprehending electrical theory than doing physical stuff like making coils but I will manage and have people like yourselves on this site for support.
     
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    It's a rather fun and rewarding hobby. I started rebuilding with basic bare wire then on to twisted and parallel coils. I then tried some pre-spun Clapton wire to see what all the hype was, really enjoyed the vape but only thing I could find was 26x2/32 or 28x2/32 wire so I learned how to spin my own Fused Clapton wire. So now I can knock out around 10-12 inch's of wire ranging from 24x2/34 to 34x2/44 in just a few min's and you know what? It's rather fun for it really takes my mind off of things and it's wonderful to enjoy the fruits of your own labor. All this takes is a bit of practice along with some trial and error.
     
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    AndriaD Shine on, you crazy... VU Donator Diamond Contributor Member For 3 Years ECF Refugee

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    I was completely terrified of "messing with electrical shit"... but then discovered that it's actually a piece of cake. I started my son right out with building his own rather than buying them, because he doesn't have disposable income for buying them -- at first I built them for him, but with him standing by and observing... then he did a few while i stood by and observed him... within a week or two of starting to vape, he was building his own, completely on his own, and within a month of starting to vape, he was mixing his own ejuice -- based on some of my recipes, but to suit his taste rather than mine.

    I dunno much about electrical theory, other than just basic comprehension of circuits, but coil building is no more difficult than tying your shoes.

    Andria
     
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    ^^^^ This
     
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    Thanks for the encouraging analogy.
     
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    See the big problem is those (coil-porn pics) are essentially just for show.Some actually do work.
    Below is 1 of the just for fun variety.

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    However this next 1 might actually be functional.

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    That 1 above is called an (Inception Coil) as it is a coil within a coil.Confused yet?
    Good cause we're not even 3 layers deep yet.

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    You'll get equal amounts of encouragement & frustration from vaping.
    Here are some examples below.

    Day 2 of vaping !!! OMG !!! this vape tastes so awesome why the fuck did I ever smoke?
    Day 2.3 of vaping !!! WTF !!! My nose is all runny what the hell is going on?
    Day 15 of vaping !!! Yee-haw !!! I just purchased a new and better mod/device.
    Day 19.6 of vaping !!! FFS !!! It just arrived and the damn thing isn't working I better watch that YouTube video again.
    Day 20 of vaping !!! Yay !!! It just needed to be charged up
    Day 23 of vaping !!! SMH !!! Where the hell did I put that charger?

    By the way not saying this will happen just preparing you for some possibilities.

    Oh and before I forget...Cheers!

     
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    AndriaD Shine on, you crazy... VU Donator Diamond Contributor Member For 3 Years ECF Refugee

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    *Sigh*

    Here's one of my typical coils: not fancy, not pretty, doesn't even remotely resemble jewelry or modern art. But it vapes -- and that's ALL it needs to do.

    mysimplecoil.jpg

    Andria
     
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    Thanks!
     
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    Great advice. Thanks!
     
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    I'm waiting for my digiflavor siren 2 to get here before I buy anymore coils for the Nautilus. I bought 5 coils when I bought the Nautilus. I am curious to compare the siren 2 to the nautilus. If I like one better than the other I'll likely double down so I have a spare. I definitely try those coils in the nautilus though.

    Thanks!
     
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    I'm feeling it. The lack of smoking is beating me up a bit. I just keep vaping through the cravings.
     
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    I am vaping at 11 watts. I feel like a noob. lol
     
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    My chocolate hazel nut brownie is 18mg while my blueberry cake is 12mg. It's strange as the blueberry gives me headaches. Not so much that it's unbearable, just enough to annoy me. I'm powering through.

    Thanks for your words of support!
     
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    I find that vaping is actually more convenient for me. I won't smoke in my house or truck/car. So usually I would have to go outside or pull over to smoke. Vaping allows me to stay inside. I definitely am having some cigarette cravings. I am turning to vaping to get through the cravings. So far it's working.

    Vaping does seem to make cough a bit. I'm sure I'll adjust.
     
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    I purchased the regular Nautilus and joined it with a joyetech 150w (upgradable to 200w). I also purchased a digiflavor siren 2 which is due to arrive by this Friday.

    Thanks for your advice!
     
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    I'm trying avoid all cigarettes like the plague. For me it just takes one and I'll be smoking like a chimney. So far it's working.

    Thanks for your encouraging words.
     
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    Love this!
    I used a coffee mug and microwaved water. I just soaked my bottles for 15 minutes, gave a good shake, freezer for 10 minutes and repeated until the juice darkened quite a bit and had a pleasant smell.
     
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    Good idea. I will do just that once I find my special flavors.

    Thanks!
     
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    I have a good working knowledge of Ohm and his laws.
     
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    I get lost when working on electronics or writing code. The world simply ceases to exist around me. Smoking could never find me when I crossed into my alternate reality.
     
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    What are going to buy for your tank and mod, polargirl?
     
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    Wattage isn't important. Getting the proper vape to quit is. I'm vaping at 120W BUT Im vaping 3mg nic juice. I'm probably getting the same amount of nicotine that you are, just getting it faster from bigger clouds. Its fine to maintain nicotine but direct to lung is not really great to kick the smoking habit.
     
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    Makes me cough still if I take to large a hit. But it isn't hacking like with smokers cough. I figure it's fine. Clear out crap in my lungs from years of smoking. It took about 3 weeks for my sputum to lose the brownish tint and turn clear. If it is a problem after a couple weeks, increase the vg% in your juice. Then you can start decreasing nicotine a bit. It took me 6 months to go from 18mg to 3mg.
     
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    Those are homemade coils?
     
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    Edit: :oops: I won a Tigertek Springer S RTA not a Nautilus. Now that completely throws my plans into a loop.
     
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    AndriaD Shine on, you crazy... VU Donator Diamond Contributor Member For 3 Years ECF Refugee

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    I started out vaping at about 8w; now I vape at about 9.5w -- and I've been vaping over 3 and a half yrs. Just because now one CAN vape at some godawful extreme wattage, doesn't necessarily mean that one SHOULD.

    Andria
     
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    I applaud your will power & self discipline. Please do not rub it in, as I've been vaping roughly two years
    and am still at 18 mg per ml. Would like to get to 6 mg per ml, ... eventually. In fact, am recently becoming
    aware I need to decrease nicotine intake.

    Yes, some here do build such coils & do not work at shops or manufactures. Then, some do work for those and still build these kind of coils for work, or hobbies. I find building coils akin to Zazen (Zen) meditation. Today, I made up some wire. I halfway braided and halfway twisted three strands of 30 awg Kanthal A1 wire, then folded that and twisted the two 3 strand wires together. I'll try building something with it tomorrow, thinking a dual coil set up possibly, though it'll depend upon how low the Ωs go even on a single coil. It's not advisable to go below 0.20 Ω for mechanical mods like I use. I am merely a padawan coil building Jedi, though I've decided upon the path of the Gray Jedi.
     
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    I laugh in your general direction. <joking> I do agree with you. Seems akin to having the might to kill in excess not meaning you go murdering folks, might does not equate right.
     
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    AndriaD Shine on, you crazy... VU Donator Diamond Contributor Member For 3 Years ECF Refugee

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    It's not a contest! You should use whatever works best for YOU, nevermind everyone else! Everyone told me to start at 18mg, but 18mg AND 12mg made me sick as a GOAT.

    Andria
     
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    Vaping is a contest to many.
    Who can blow the biggest cloud.
    Who can get the latest Atty first.
    Who can get the hardest to get Vape stuff.
    Who can make the strangest looking coil.

    With many everything is a contest.
     
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