I haven't loaded these on the site yet but I have them. Need to finish inventory and photographing them. Bought 12 and 5 were sold when I placed the order and I am keeping one. 6 are available. More details coming. FYI, these are made from L80 Brass, same stuff Zildjian cymbals are made of and they are covered with an acrylic resin sleeve that is polished. 24mm at the top tapering out to 26mm.