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  1. Rob B.

    Rob B. Bronze Contributor ECF Refugee

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    Recently I have started to collect AIO's, and decided to do a little write up, and give my personal take on what I have so far.

    The Contenders:

    1. Aspire Mulus 80W, 18650
    2. Asvape Micro 30W, 1100 mAh
    3. Lost Vape Q-Ultra 40W, 1600 mAh
    4. Rincoe Manto 80W, 18650
    5. Think Vape Zeta 60W, 18650

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    The more AIO's I get, the more of them I want. I'm excited, not only by the form factor, feature set, and convenience, but also by the selection of AIO's available out there. Especially the one's that have an RBA available. Out of that list, the one's I have RBA's for so far, are the Rincoe Manto and the Think Vape Zeta. I have RBA's ordered for the Aspire Mulus and the Q-Ultra. There are more AIO's I am interested in that I will link at the end.

    Think Vape Zeta 60W AIO. I've had this AIO for almost two weeks now, and I'm loving it. The coils that came with it are pretty decent, but it was the RBA that I was interested in. The RBA is easy to build, and performs really well. I used one of the pre-wrap coils that came with it. It came out to 1.06 ohm, and I'm vaping it at 15W. The taste is great, with good vapor production. Next build, I am going to wrap my own wire to make it a lower resistance, and vape at a higher wattage. The pod in the Zeta holds 3ml of e-juice. The Zeta is very solid, weighing in at 215 grams with an 18650, and is heavier than even my biggest AIO, the Mulus, but has a smaller foot print. It just feels of excellent quality and substance in the hand, and is the perfect size for my hand. Both sides of the Zeta have removable panels. On one side, is the fire button, display, and adjustment buttons. On the other side, is the pod, and battery compartment with a window to see the juice level. The panels rattle a bit, but don't bother me in actual use. The tank is easy to fill, and replace the coils/rba in. The Zeta can be used for either DTL, or MTL, and performs great for both. Over all, the Zeta is my favorite AIO so far. I would recommend it to people that like the AIO form factor, and like to build their own atty's.

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    Rincoe Manto. Another solid AIO, that has an RBA for it. The Rincoe coils are just mediocre, but the RBA is great. Easy to build, great taste and cloud production. The only thing I don't like about the RBA, are the post screws. They are tiny straight slots that the screw driver easily slips out of and stabs you. :huh: I dug through my extras, and found better grub/phillips head screws to replace them. Hopefully they will fix this on future versions of the RBA. Like the Zeta, the pod for the Manto holds 3ml of e-juice, and is also smaller than the Mulus, but weighs about the same as the Mulus, and is also more solid/quality feeling, weighing in at 154 grams with an 18650. It has one removable door panel on it, which covers the pod and the battery, and has a window where the juice level can be seen. On the other side are the power button, display, and adjustment buttons. Like the Zeta, the Manto can be used for both DTL and MTL, and is good at either. I like both the Zeta and Manto, but the Zeta edges the Manto out as my favorite AIO so far. I would recommend the Manto to people that like the AIO form factor, and like to build their own atty's.

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    Aspire Mulus. It's one of the AIO's I don't have an RBA for yet, but Aspire just released the RBA for it, and I have it ordered already. In the mean time I have been using the Nautilus 2S coils for it, which are really good. They are 0.4 ohm's, and rated for use at 23 to 28 watts. I use them at 27 watts, which is just perfect for me. You can also use any of the other Nautilus coils, like the BVC and AIO coils in the Mulus, so it's a very versatile device. The pod for the Mulus holds 4.2ml of e-juice. The Mulus has the biggest foot print of all my AIO's, and weighs in at 156 grams with an 18650. It has one removable panel. On the one side, there is the power button. On the removable panel side are the pod, battery, display, and adjustment buttons. The window to see the juice level is also located there. The Mulus is not a cheap feeling device. It's just not as solid feeling as the Zeta and Manto are. I have been using Aspire products for a long time, and have never had a problem with any of them. This is another AIO that can be used both DTL or MTL equally well. I like the Mulus a lot, and will be anxious to try the new RBA in it. I would also recommend the Mulus to those who like AIO's. I'll edit this post when I get the RBA to let you know what I think.

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    Lost Vape Q-Ultra. This is one that I EDC. It's as tall as the Mulus, but in a nice thin and light form factor, weighing in at only 92 grams, with a built in 1600 mAh battery. I don't have any experience with the previous Lost Vape AIO's, but this one is pretty nice. It's got a nice feel to it, and gives great flavor from its pod using the coils. I use the Ultra Boost M1 coils. They are 0.3 ohms, and rated for use at 30 to 40 watts. It also has 0.6 and 1.0 ohm coils available. There is also an RBA for this device that I have on order. The pod holds 4ml of e-juice, and has a convenient external fill port on the top of the pod. There are no removable door panels on the Q-Ultra. The pod attaches to the top of the device, and detaches with a slider switch. The power button, display, and adjustment buttons are all on the edge of the device. I like the Q-Ultra for its light weight. I can hardly tell that it's in my pocket. It's got some phenomenal flavor with the coils I use, but I am eager to try out the RBA. I'll edit this post when I get the RBA to let y'all know what I think. The Q-Ultra is advertised for use as DTL or MTL, but it has a fairly loose draw, no matter how you adjust the air flow. That's fine for me, because I am a DTL vaper, so I can recommend the Q-Ultra to DTL vapers, but probably not so much to MTL vapers.

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    Asvape Micro. The Micro weighs in at 85 grams, with a built in 1100 mAh battery. It also has the smallest capacity for e-juice, with a 2ml pod. It's nice for throwing in the pocket, and can be used for either DTL or MTL. It has one removable door that slides open to reveal the pod, display, and power adjustment buttons. On the other side is the power button. As far as I know, there is no RBA for the Micro. At least not that I've been able to find. The coils for the Micro give really good taste, and perform very well. I would recommend the Micro to those that just want a small, easy to use, stealthy device, that is a big step above a simple pod device. This fits the bill very well.

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    Well, that wraps up the comparisons. Overall, I like the AIO form factor and convenience. For the most part, they have the features of a mod and tank kit, and most of them have RBA's available for those that like to build. Most of them also have replaceable 510 drip tips, which I see as a plus. So, for anyone that wants a full featured device that's easy and convenient to carry and use, the AIO form factor is the way to go.

    As I mentioned earlier, there are several other AIO's that I'm interested in. Here are the links if you're interested in some of the other AIO's available out there. Thanks for taking a look at my little review today. Let me know what you think in the comments below. :)

    Artery Nugget GT 200W VW Mod Pod System

    Artery PAL II 2 PRO 22W Pod System

    SMOK FETCH PRO 80W Pod System

    SMOK RPM80 PRO 80W Pod System

    OXVA ORIGIN 40W Pod System

    Wismec R80 Pod Mod Kit

    Geek Vape AEGIS BOOST 40W Pod Mod Kit

    MECHLYFE Ratel XS AIO Starter Kit
     
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    Hi Rob,
    Nice review of the AIOs that you have used!
    I just got the Smok Fetch Pro 80w- It is a really nice AIO that uses an 18650 removable battery. I bought and have been using the Smok RGC RBA which is pretty much a DL vape, right up my alley for my type of vaping, Smok does sell a MTL RBA too. I haven't tried the factory coils yet. The Fetch Pro seems to be well built and lightweight, easy to throw in my pocket or purse. Love that this has a fire bar instead of a little button and a nice easy to see and use read out screen. The fill pod holds about 4 mls of liquid.

    I also have the DotMod AIO SE- another nice AIO, removable 18650 battery. No read out screen and this is a 35W device
    4 power levels, very soft, soft, medium and strong. This device can use Aspire BVC and Dotmod coils, but you can buy the Dot RBA for it. I am using the Dot RBA and a small 1.0Ω micro coil- this is more of a MTL vape. Even with the air flow fully open, still a MTL vape. The Pod holds about 3 1/2 mls of liquid.Nice that you can buy separate decorative covers to customize the look. The Dot AIO is small but not as small and lightweight as the Smok.
    I am really liking these AIOs- small and easy to grab and go- these are what I take when going to be out of the house for a while.

    I have been using the Kanger Nebox 40w for over 4 years- one of the 1st AIO's- love that thing- vapes great, holds 10 mls of liquid and a removable 18650 battery. It will leak if standing up right , but I keep on its side- no leaking. It also has an RBA another plus- uses the OCC and the SOCC kanger coils- I have been lucky getting these cheap on great sales.
     
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    Thanks for your input SD NY! I am looking at the Fetch Pro real hard. My local vape shop has them, and the owner loves his. @Nailz has one, and he and I have been talking about them too. I will get one before long. As you can see at the end of my comparison review, that I have a bunch of wants... broke.gif

    I have been considering the Dot SE, but I like display screens. If a future version comes out with one, I will give it a closer look. :)
     
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    I got the MTL RBA head today, I didn't want to give up on the fetch, even though wasn't get a good MTL vape on it, because I do really like the mod, love the fire bar and the screen on it. Not built the MTL RBA head yet, plan to tomorrow, but bad thing is, no 510 connector for it, so no micro coils, never been a fan of spaced, but still got hopes for it :)
     
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    There is a 510 connector for the Smok RGC RBA that you have in the little clear case- could you use that one for your new MTL RBA. Really stupid not to include a 510 adapter for your MTL RBA. Not everyone is a fan of spaced coils!
    I really hope this new RBA does the trick and you will really like the Fetch. Stop back and let us know what you think!
     
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    I agree I like display screens much better. I wouldn't buy one of these AIOs without an RBA either, plus a removable 18650 a must for me too and I like the box shapes better too.
    Nailz is a great guy and we have discussed the Dot AIO- we both have the SE.
    The Aspire Mulus has been one I have wanted to buy, but without the RBA for sale a no go for now.
     
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    Yea for some strange reason you can't use one on this RBA, I did try the 510 connector from the RGC, but won't work, there is no threads on the bottom of the RPM to screw one on. I find micro are better for flavor for me, but still hoping get good flavor from the spaced, it sure looks like a MTL RBA, short chimney and smaller air hole under the coil.

    Mulus RBA is live, me and @Rob B. have already got one on order - https://online.aspirecig.com/aspire-mulus-rba-pod-p-401.html
     
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    Thanks about the Aspire Mulus RBA- hopefully some US shops will get them in stock- looks like a pretty nice AIO too!
    That is terrible that the 510 connector doesn't fit the MTL RBA- I do hope that is a better MTL vape for you- I believe there is a small clear plug to make it even more tighter MTL vape. I watched a few reviews on the MTL RBA, but none of them used that plug.
     
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    I looked in the bags that came with the RGC, never saw a plug, unless it was in with the cotton bag, just threw that one away.

    I would of rather ordered from the US, but as only on the Aspire site, though by the time US sites have it, hopefully I would of already have it :)
     
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    Nailz start watching this video at 8:36 - the clear little plug is in the bag with the orings and the screw driver- she explains the plug and where it goes on the RBA- this plug would be in the spare parts bag with the new MTL RBA you got today- The RPM RBA- the plug should be in this kit- not the RGC is the DL RBA.
     
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    Yea I just found it, but only comes with the RPM RBA, and doesn't fit in the RGC, just tested it, so decided to build the RPM, as had it out anyway, and...............it's a success, I did not use the plug, as that hole is tiny.

    Building on it, is a bit challenge, as no 510, you are trying to hold the base as installing the coil, but I've done worse, sure is not for a newbie to build on for sure, so did spaced of course and came out to 1 ohm, and now vaping at my normal 20 watts again, was having to use 25 watts with the RGC RBA, even with the air slot fully open and no plug, is still a nice restricted MTL vape, flavor seems good, but used a new juice, so can't say how good, but enjoying it a lot more than the RGC head :)

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    Yippee- you built it, looks Awesome- lol! Yes these decks are tiny for sure! Glad that the new RPM RBA head is a MTL for you- glad actually that they have 2 different RBA heads- really stinks that the RPM RBA has no 510 base attachment and would make it harder to build without it!
    The Fetch Pro to me is such a great little AIO - I have been using mine daily since I got it. I love the RGC RBA- I bought a pack of the .6Ω RPM coils- ut oh- maybe too tight of a MTL for me? They were sold out of the RGC coils.
     
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    Watch Jay's video on it, not a huge fan of his, but he is so right on it :giggle::giggle::giggle::giggle:



    But it is a good vape though :)
     
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    :giggle::teehee::giggle::teehee::giggle::teehee:

    what a PITA- lol
    he is right on about this RBA. It should have better screws and a 510 adapter for sure!
     
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    I came really close to buying the SXK Billet Box and attachments- but not a rabbit hole I wanted to fall into- I thought it would probably be too MTL for my liking as well.
     
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    Thanks for all the great posts everyone! For some reason, I stopped getting notifications for this thread. Here's hoping this post will fix that.
     
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    You never tried the DotAio with the Dotshell bridge. By far my favorite AIO followed by the Bantam V2 by SXK.
     
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    Just ordered the dotshell last week for my DotAio, look forward to trying it out :)
     
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    I have it on my radar. I like having a display on my devices. If Dot ever puts a display on their AIO like BB did, I will grab one. :thumb:
     
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    BTW, do not have the Asvape Micro but I do have the BMI micro. It's a great vape but the 2ml capacity really ticks me off. Needed a 3.5ml pod. And whyb a fill port on the side? Should be on the front. Just va poor design for the pod.
     
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    Yeah, shortly after I got the Asvape Micro, I discovered the BMI....and really wanted it. Couldn't find it anywhere at the time, so I forgot about it. Just looked it up, and found it. $65 -$75. WTH? It's just a glorified Asvape micro. Only difference is the stainless steel body. Hope you didn't pay that much for it. Only paid $35 for the Asvape. It's damn sharp looking, but not $30 to $40 more sharp looking.
     
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    I paid 40 for the BMI. The body is solid and the engravings the tits. So no terrible
     
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    Where did you order that from? Do I need that?
    Is it MTL? I would rather have a RDL or DL RBA.
     
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    The Dot AIO has 4 power adjustments that are not too bad- yes it is not showing the watts, but you can adjust the power of the hits , so not too bad.
     
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    Yeah, I know. It's just I'm a little OCD... :crazy: I am one of the Shiny's ya know. Sunny.gif We are after all, a very discriminating bunch...:p
     
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    Did you get the Fetch Pro?
     
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    Why yes I did. :) I also got the rba, and just got it built yesterday. Giving it a few days, and then I'll post my take on it.

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    RDL or MTL, I watched todds review on it and pretty much covers all you need to know, I ordered it from 3fvape, as was in the 'ship in 24 hours' category.

     
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    You will not regret it. It mis a mainstay in my collection.
     
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    Thank you so much for all the info- looks like a really nice RBA.
    I have it in my cart there!
     
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    What do you think of the Fetch Pro 80w ?
    Which RBA did you get? I have the RGC which is more RDL to DL - love it!

    :vino:
     
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    I really like the Fetch Pro. Nice solid little device. I like both the RBA and the stock coils. I use the RPM80 RGC 0.17ohm stock coils. I have the RGC RBA also. I like it a lot. That's what I have in it right now. Have some tri-twisted wire in it right now. Next build, I am going to use single strand 28g to see if I can get a lower resistance, higher wattage build. Right now with the tri-twisted, it's at .39 ohm's, puffing at 16W. I'd like to get it down to .2 ohm's @ 30-40W.
     
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