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  1. vapesmooth1234

    vapesmooth1234 Member For 1 Year

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    I realize I'm about 2 years late to the party of these jumbo 30mm+ RDAs but what's strange is that they seem to be so popular that they're all sold out almost everywhere on the web, but manufacturers didn't replenish production.
    Basically I just want a huge RDA to mess around with huge clouds now and then, not a regular vape.

    I asked for suggestions on forum and did my own search and after a few days, find that almost all are sold out, or aren't really meant for 4 or more coils.

    What I really want is the so Horney 6-coil RDA but can't find it anywhere even authentic. Anyone got a clone they'd sell me? I'll pay $25. They cost $10.

    I realty want the Goliath also but can't find it in stock anywhere to ship to USA.

    -I found 30mm Mason available but not sure if the posts can fit dual fused Clapton in each hole to make it a quad coil. Anyone know about that? Or maybe I can just drill out the holes larger?

    -30mm Temple dual velocity can't find anywhere for sale, can stack quad long fused claptons for huge vapor but can't find for sale.


    -Found the authentic Obese Buddha 36mm for like $75 but not crazy about the build deck as quad coil (have to angle 2 coils on each side to allow wicks to drop down, otherwise would have to fish wick through 36mm total of 2 coils which is not fun or easy)

    -Did find 28.5mm Zephyr Buddha V2 Styled RDA for $8, but not crazy about that build deck and not sure if I can fit 2 fused Claptons in each post (maybe can drill out holes though bigger).
    https://www.fasttech.com/products/3028/10013161/2893800

    -30mm prophet triple coil can't find anywhere.
    -30mm Buddha z v4 triple coil cant find anywhere

    -30mm Buddha V3 RDA velocity DID find authentic but not crazy about the plastic (or delrin or whatever it is) top section.


    There were a bunch others in the Jumbo RDA category but I really didn't like the decks or they just weren't meant for 4+ coils.

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    So anyone got a Goliath or so horney they'll sell me for like $25? PM me I'll paypal, thanks. Or maybe there's a rule you can't profit from it, but maybe we can trade or something?

    I did search 27mm RDA, 28mm RDA, 29mm RDA, 30mm RDA - 40mm RDA, but I might find some by adding .5 to the end.
    If I can get at least a 26mm velocity, I can stack quad Claptons in it and should be plenty of vapor. I'm only using a 250W DNA250 BTW with triple vtc6s so I can't power much for long but I just want to try huge vapor RDA now and then.
     
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    I just realized I can actually put 8 coils in the Buddha. the mason 30mm though, can't fit that much wire in the small post holes (would be 4 wire tails per hole and I'm questioning if it'll even fit two for a Quad build)

    Would be tricky with the obese Buddha but basically can stack coils (4 on each side, and bend the ends of the wire on the upper coils so they are raised up).

    but I dunno, maybe just a quad Clapton build in a velocity 25mm (which should be able to find), would max out my DNA250 mod anyway.
     
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    skt239, thanks but that's basically the same build deck as this $8 clone
    https://www.fasttech.com/products/0...hyr-buddha-v2-styled-rda-rebuildable-dripping

    not even about price (and I'd rather get that genuine one because the metal is probably cleaner grade),

    but what I'm saying is I don't know if I can fit 4 coils (post holes might not fit 2 fused Claptons each), and if it could, there'd be a bunch of bent un-usable wire to place coils where needed while still connecting to the off-set post. I think the Buddha would be better in quad/octa (although tricky to get 4 coils set just right and then tighten down the post/plate.)

    Centurion V2 RDA 30MM Clamp style looks enticing also,
    http://www.evcigarettes.com/centurion-v2-rda-cci/
    put 2 long fused claptons over each other on each side.

    but maybe I can just max out my MOD capability with just a $10 25mm velocity with stacked quad clapton
     
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    You could get a Timesvape 30mm Mask RDA....its actually pretty decent, along with the Norris RDA, Death Trap, and others that are fairly new.
    Ive got some authentics if interested...they are mint and used less then a handful of times.

    Mask 30mm:

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    30mm Death Trap RDA:

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    yea I like the mask style, as quad (if a DNA250 triple VTC6 can even power that), clamp style fit quad without wires all bent offset to reach posts. (wasted wire = wasted watts)

    And the Norris 30mm same thing, dunno HOW I missed these in my search:/
     
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    The deck

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    Again thank you so much for mentioning the Mask and Norris. I ended up getting those, for cheap too ($36 Norris, $19.99 Mask) and I actually preferred these to the $55+ ones.


    They're basically the same but the Norris I think has a wider build deck because it doesn't have a second screw at the outer edge of the clamp like the Mask one does therefore can fit longer coils. I got the mask though just because it was cheap and I can sell it later if I only use the Norris, plus the Mask has bottom air flow. With my regular 23mm RDA it has adjustable side air flow and that's good enough (Has a bottom air flow in the past but it would leak sometimes), but this big RDA I'll be checking the coils more often instead of accidentally over-dripping causing leaks, and I want to see if the bottom air flow work better for these huge builds.

    I probably won't even make the wick tails reach the well (I'll just cut them short to use the whole width of the deck and make sure they're always saturated with dripping instead of relying on wicking up the well).


    I realized the So Horney RDA I wanted yes is 6-coils but only 23mm, so in theory 6x23mm = 138mm of coil can fit. Is not much difference that just putting quad coils in a 30mm RDA which is 120mm total of coils. The real numbers are smaller than that because post-to-post is less than outer diameter of RDA, but you get the idea.
    I do wonder though if it'll have less ramp up and/or better vapor to use 6 smaller coils vs 4 longer coils but I asked this on 2 forums and no one had an answer so it's probably no a common knowledge thing.

    I did find a 30mm velocity authentic for $55 but I think the Norris in quad mode will be just as good and no need to get the velocity also (for quad). Other than that, I didn't want any of the other build decks for huge quad coils, or they are just all Sold Out.
    Anyway thanks again.
     
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    In practice the So Horney is more like 6×6mm coils, so a very far stretch away from being 6×23mm coils. But even so, 3 fully charged Sony VTC6 batteries in a regulated mod are─and I really hate to sound like a broken record here─not nearly enough battery power for 6×6mm coils at 3mm ID, both in theory and in practice.
     
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    post-to-post on the So horney's gotta be more than 6mm, maybe 15mm?, but anyway yeah not much difference in coil mass vs quad in a 30mm.

    Anyway, So I should get Three VTC5A cells you already suggested me in another thread? Those 2600 mAh but about 5 more Amps vs 3000 mAh vtc6s. ACTUALLY, I forgot I have three brand new pink Samsung 30Q I was gonna vape this 30mm quad with, but those are even worse for this application than vtc6s?

    And I realize this is a lot of coil mass to expect battery life, but if I can get 10ml out of a charge cycle I'll be more than happy - just wanna try some dense clouds now and then.

    Lastly, should I not use Kanthal or SS in power mode for attempting to vape quad 8-12 wrap coils in these 30+mm RDAs? Need TC-compatible wire for faster ramp?
    I know a custom powercurve hack with escribe is possible but doesn't seem like something I'd ever learn to do correctly.

    thanks again man
     
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    You also have to factor in enough room for the wicks to fall down properly or else the juice won't go up to the topmost pair fast enough. At 3mm ID, I'd say 7mm already is pushing it, and then you also have to consider the fact bigger coils are asking for even higher watts.

    Yeah, with three VTC5A batteries you should be good. The reason I'm saying this isn't about the battery life, but rather, it's about the max wattage and the safety of these batteries. I own eighteen VTC5A batteries myself. They are what the guy I was talking about in the other thread was using in his Lost Vape Triade DNA 250 at the time when he demoed his authentic So Horney at 250 watts. The build he had in it ohmed out at .1 ohm, it was 6 fused clapton coils at 6.5 wraps, 3mm ID, 28g Ni80 / 38g Ni80. With the 3 separate airflow rings and a fairly long, deep drag, the density of the vapor was beyond anything I thought was possible for any person to inhale. He exhaled it slowly, and, it just kept coming and coming and coming... I remember asking him, "if it's all wet vapor, then with such a huge quantity, aren't you getting water into your lungs?" No, he said, and from that moment I just knew I was going to try and buy it off him (I did just over a week ago). I believe only 100 pieces were ever made.

    I stay away from SS because it wears out way too fast IMO, and it makes the coils ramp up slower vs using Ni80. With a lot of metal in the coils, even Ni80 ramps up slow enough to justify using a custom power curve. Kanthal heats up much, much slower than Ni80, but for the core wires in the general sense it can be a great option to consider nevertheless, simply because it has a higher resistance than Ni80 so it can help solve the problem of getting too low resistance to be in range of what the mod can work with.

    AFAIK custom power curves in EScribe are a supported feature, not some sort of hack. It's essentially just an editable numbers table, something like time values in one column, wattages in the other column... so the wattage changes over the course of your drag (e.g. at 0.1 second intervals).
     
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    cool thanks I'm new to TC (never even tried it) but I'll learn, will just try kanthal while I'm anxious to first use these RDAs though.

    so I should get 3 VTC5A and not even use the Samsung 30Qs? Basically I'm looking at Amps ratings for this type of build? So 25A for the VTC5A is best followed by 20A VTC6 (but more mAh hence why I use it for smaller builds) and the worst is the 15A 30Q?


    I'm not even gonna rely on the well. I'm gonna try just clipping the cotton right where it comes out of the coil and then make sure I drip it frequently enough to avoid a dry hit.

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    I also just scooped up an authentic Buddha V3 30mm Velocity for $55. Basically in case it's too much a PITA to install quad coil in a clamp style Norris/Mask. Although the pic above shows it's definitely possible. I might stuff some cotton in well to prop up coils in place before screwing down.

    Other than that, the 3 30mm RDAs I ordered are basically the same; adjustable side air (but not so much the Norris but I can always drill it out if I want a ton more).

    Worst case scenario is I sell one or two later after finding my fav, for a ~$10 loss or maybe make profit since they're rare.

    The only place I could find the Buddha was Fogvapor.com He has the Buddha V4 triple coil also I don't think I found anywhere. Can even use PayPal.


    I coulda got a 30mm velocity clone Buddha V3 or Temple from fasttech for 10 bucks ea but a) been sold out b) even the authentic Temple has brass and I just don't like anything but plain SS and the authentic Buddha is 304 (safe) and not the cheaper SS. Supposedly brass not a concern but quad exotic will be a hot build I'd rather not use brass.

    thanks for your help again.
     
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    Technically the VTC6 is still also only a 15A battery, just like the 30Q. But the VTC6 hits harder than the 30Q making the VTC6 the better performer for both mech mods and regulated mods, albeit the difference is small. (Harder hitting = smaller voltage sag so the battery runs at a higher voltage, as the resting voltage minus the voltage sag is the voltage that the battery runs at.) Both the VTC6 and the 30Q can be used at 20A continuously, but that is only if the battery temperature does not exceed 80°C for the VTC6, and does not exceed 75°C for the 30Q. In any case, the CDR of these batteries is only 15A. Whereas the VTC5A has a CDR of 25A, but can be used at 30A continuously if the battery temperature does not exceed 80°C. This is all according to Mooch.

    That said, if using a 3-battery DNA 250 mod at its maximum power capability of 250 watts, then the highest current draw per battery already exceeds 25A, the CDR of the VTC5A. If you're going to vape above the CDR anyway, then at least have the common sense to pick a battery the CDR of which is close enough to what you're going to vape because, if you do I promise you'll live longer, and, even if you don't, then at least your battery will. In case you were wondering if you really need those 250 watts... you don't. But you said you wanted to see clouds so that's that.

    As for TC mode, I never use it. Custom power curves have absolutely nothing to do with TC mode, as they are an entirely separate feature.

    I own an Obese Buddha and 2× Buddha V4 as well as a small bunch of other 30mm RDAs (everything's authentic). BTW, both the Mason V2 and the Mason Gemini Series II are velocity style with four 3mm post holes, and the holes in the postless deck are 3mm also, but all of these 30mm goodies appear to be out of stock now so it looks as if the cloud hatin' tootle puffers finally won the battle. :sad:
     
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    I've seen some crazy builds on the mason that's around 40mm. Was on a 26 battery paraseries box that was like inhaling lava. The 30mm mask rda is decent although may be challenging for more than two coils.

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    I received the Norris (clamp style) and have to say that personally it IS a hassle to build on even only a dual coil. Quad will be much harder. I stick a piece of cotton in each side of the well to prop the coils in place before screwing them down but it's still tricky. spring loaded clamps would have been nice.

    With fused claptons, they have a cross section of a rectangle or oval (not round), so if both ends (or all 4 if quad) aren't flat, then one wire gets clamped tight but the other one just slips out. I could have swore I had both ends in flat and also on to pof each other but I had a coil slip out like 5 times, very frustrating. I heat the coil to remove hot spots etc and tighten down again when the wire is warm and more pliable seems to help.

    I'm glad I got the 30mm Buddha velocity coming too. Quad on that shouldn't be too bad. Dual would be simple.

    I made a dual kanthal Clapton spaced 10-wrap 4mm (20X 4mm wraps total dual build lol) and it's so much vapor that it's basically too much. There's only so much vapor lungs can take in. I did this with straight VG no flavor or nic and it tastes like I'm drinking warm VG lol.

    I used 3 LG brown 18650s that are 18 months old and baffled how they still even hold a vape because I used only these cells for 18 months but anyway, that 20 wrap 4mm Clapton build came out to .7 ohms and my DNA250 vapes it fine at just like 75W. I would imagine Watts should be at least over 100W, but when I do that, it seems too warm and gives me that drinking VG taste and also a bit harsh.

    I feel like I get just as much vapor from a much smaller dual build I make with a 22mm RDA but with needing a longer inhale, and this 30mm is more like a quick puff otherwise it's just too much vapor to take in. I also need to close the air flow quite a bit.


    But I will say that one of these large tanks, if mellowed down (not super high wattage and not super wide open air), that the vape is pretty cool. I could see myself using this as an everyday vape on a more mellow configuration, which is not at all why I even bought them to begin with. Sort of a quick dense vapor puff on a less extreme setting, I might end up using these 30mm RDAs for regular vaping instead of only experimenting with clouds is why I bought them to begin with.
     
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    Voltrove has 30mm Modfather RDA's on their site on sale for $30
    I ordered 2 on Friday
     

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