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Hi All, Anthony Vapes back here with my review of the Lost Vape Paranormal DNA250C Mod. Please see bottom for disclaimers and links.
Introduction:
The Lost Vape Paranormal DNA250c is the latest mod from Lost vape, a company who really doesn't need an introduction. Lost Vape is one of the most popular brands in vaping due to their classy looking designs, well built mods, and the use of the evolv DNA chip which is an excellent chip and a community cult favorite. They launched the original paranormal last year with the DNA250 chip and this is the updated version with evolv's newest DNA chip the DNA250C. The Paranormal DNA250C is a dual 18650 mod rated at 200 watts (a bump up for DNA chips from their normal 166 watt limit in dual battery mods) and the new replay mode as well. Elementvape is selling the mod for 139.95 which is the pretty standard price for a Lost Vape DNA mod. Last time i purchased one personally was 149.95 for the therion 166 snakeskin edition so no surprise on the price there. It’s available in a crazy 15 color combinations with interchangeable side panels as well.
Manufacturer's Specs
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Initial Impressions
When I first got this Mod, I was pretty impressed with it. I’m no stranger to DNA mods or lost vape mods. Last year i purchased their therion snake skin dna166 edition and prior to that i purchased their triade DNA250 as well and i have quite a few DNA mods. They make some of the nicest looking mods in my opinion and the DNA chip itself is one of the best in temp control on the market. I love the design of the paranormal itself as i never got their older version. It has a upscale classy look and nice weight and quality to it. The new DNA C chip interfaces are much improved over the older non C versions with some new features and i was already familiar with it having reviewed a couple DNA 75C mods already as well. The big new feature here is replay which i’ll go over in a bit that wasn’t out when i did my DNA 75C reviews however you can upgrade the firmware to add it into the 75C chips now. Either way it’s safe to say my expectations were met form the start out of what i expected with this mod which were pretty high.
Watt Mode Performance (chart and spreadsheet in picture album)
Now let’s get into some data. I ran my normal testing. I used Sony VTC5A batteries for the testing. I also did the case analyzer and set the internal resistance (i’ll explain that more later) Testing resistances were done at .118, .15, .2, and .621 ohms. wattage points were max (200), 150, 100, 75, 50 and 25. At .118 ohms it maxed out at 198 watts and 41 amps. For the rest of the testing it was on point or a little on the low side 1-4 watts. Really accurate at such a low resistance where many mods struggle At .15 it maxed out at 207 watts. The rest were pretty good hitting slightly high across the board, it was 6 watts high at 150 setting but only 1-2 watts high 100 or less worse case. For the .2 test it maxed out at 206 watts. Again pretty good but a little on the high side. For 150 test it was 11 watts high but under 150 2-7 watts high. For the .621 testing it maxed out at 95 watts and 7.679 volts. For the rest of the testing 2-7 watts high. The volts shows there is no boost circuit in this mod like most dual battery mods on the market however the 7.679 was very good for a non boost circuit mod.
Overall I felt the performance of this mod was really good as expected from a DNA mod. However it’s not the dead on accurate much better than any other mod in power mode people tend to claim it is. Objectively speaking the test results shows it performs on par with other good performing power mode mods, but not any better either. I was impressed It didn’t really struggle with the .118 ohm build as I was able to get 198 watts at that resistance, but it’s not the only mod to push almost 200 at that resistance either. Once you get to the 150 watts on other resistances it tends to hit a little high as well as hitting a little high all the time at the .2 ohm resistance or higher. It’s most accurate at .15 ohms or less but still very good accuracy overall compared with other mods. They did add in a preheat option as well. The older DNA chips didn’t have one but could be tricked into it with escribe. The new one has a simple easy one to set up but all my testing was done with the preheat off (called boost) I’ll go over that more later.
I was able to get 207 watts max, so I consider it to be accurately rated at 200 watts, even a little underrated. It’s understandable as it’s a universal chip not made for just one mod and the max output actually changes based on the battery configuration used. In 2 battery mods like this 200 watts is the max. But with 3 battery mods it’s 250-300 depending on firmware and with 4 batteries listed at 400 watts. So essentially the chip will do 100 watts per cell. The 7.679 volt limit shows there is no boost circuit. I’m sure they have it listed somewhere but i couldn’t find a volt limit or amp limit specifically for 2 battery configuration on the chip. The 7.679 i got with a .621 ohm coil was good though. For amps the most i got was 41 with a .118 ohm coil but it was capped off by watts. It’s possible it could have gotten even more but the 41 is right around the average for a dual battery mod and supplying max wattage at such a low resistance means amps will never be an issue. The mod never got warm when stressing it at 150+ watts and handles it very well.
A couple of things i wanted to point out here. I’m glad they added a preheat to the mod in power mode that is easy to set up. It’s called boost and you can turn it on and then pick form level 1 to 11. With that said there are 2 things i feel missing from this mod for power mode. The first is a watt curve mode. While i normally wouldn’t ding a mod for not having it and consider it a pro when a mod does, since the DNA chip is considered one of the best in the market and it seems like such an easy thing for them to add in, i’m surprised it hasn’t since many cheaper priced mods do have watt curve mode these days like geekvape, asmodus, aspire, smoant, voopoo and vaporesso and even the new pulse 80w VV chip. A high end company like evolv should be matching features from cheaper companies if those features make sense. The 2nd thing i feel is missing is a boost circuit. I do kinda get it since the chip can be used with 4 batteries in mods and deliver 400 watts and likely over 12 volts in that configuration so it wouldn’t be needed, however for a dual mod it makes a lot of sense so it could have been added in and programmed out if used in 3 or 4 battery mods. Especially since not many 3 or 4 battery mods are made these days yet dual mods are made all the time. If you go back to late 2016 no mods had boost circuits for dual battery mods so it made sense that DNA chips didn’t have them (yes i know the single battery ones have them like most single battery mods, i’m talking about the dual battery mods only here). If memory serves me correct the fist mod to have it was released in early 2017 with the SX mini G class which was a 200-250 dollar mod. However the DNA250c chip released in late 2017 IIRC and at that point companies like vaporesso, aspire, geekvape, and even some wismec mods have boost circuits so again it makes sense that DNA chips should match it
Now i know this section was long winded, but in short while it’s a great chip for power mode, I don’t consider it the best due to the lack of power curve, lack of boost circuit, and it’s accuracy isn’t any better then other good dual battery mods either so for the extra money you pay for a DNA chip it’s not worth it performance wise to only use a power mode mod as it has no advantages over other good mods in this mode and even has disadvantages.
Simplified TLDR Power Performance summary
Mod performance is really good. Mostly hits just a few watts off on the high side or on point. Accurately rated for watts (207), above average amp limit of 41. Volts tested at 7.679 with a .621 ohm coil. Also impressive you can get 198 or more watts (pretty much full watts) from a .118 to a .2 ohm coil. Lacks boost circuit and watt curve modes. Does have pre-heat.
Introduction:
The Lost Vape Paranormal DNA250c is the latest mod from Lost vape, a company who really doesn't need an introduction. Lost Vape is one of the most popular brands in vaping due to their classy looking designs, well built mods, and the use of the evolv DNA chip which is an excellent chip and a community cult favorite. They launched the original paranormal last year with the DNA250 chip and this is the updated version with evolv's newest DNA chip the DNA250C. The Paranormal DNA250C is a dual 18650 mod rated at 200 watts (a bump up for DNA chips from their normal 166 watt limit in dual battery mods) and the new replay mode as well. Elementvape is selling the mod for 139.95 which is the pretty standard price for a Lost Vape DNA mod. Last time i purchased one personally was 149.95 for the therion 166 snakeskin edition so no surprise on the price there. It’s available in a crazy 15 color combinations with interchangeable side panels as well.
Manufacturer's Specs
- Dimensions - 91.5mm by 55mm by 27.5mm
- Dual High-Amp 18650 Battery Platform - Not Included
- Patented Evolv DNA250 Color Chipset
- Wattage Output Range: 1-200W
- Temperature Range: 200-600F
- Min Kanthal Resistance: 0.1ohm
- Min Temperature Resistance: 0.08ohm
- Preheat Functionality
- Replay Functionality - Temp-Sensing & Tuning of Temperature Control
- Boost Mode - Increase Initial Power Output and Ramp-Up Time
- Intuitive OLED Display
- Die Cast Zinc Alloy Chassis Construction
- Genuine Leather Battery Door
- Highly Responsive Three Adjustment
- Reverse Protection System
- Upgradeable Escribe Software
- 98% Output Efficiency
- Cell-by-Cell Monitoring
- Cell Balancer
- Atomizer Protection
- Low Resistance Protection
- Short Circuit Protection
- Overheat Protection
- Low Voltage Step Down Protection
- Onboard Reverse Polarity Protection
- Micro-USB Port - 2A Balance Charging Capability
- Stainless Steel 510 Thread Point
- Spring-Loaded Nickel Plated Brass 510 Connection
- 1 Paranormal DNA250C Mod
- 1 spare set of panels
- 1 USB Adapter
- 1 Micro USB Cable
- 1 Warranty Card
- Instructional Manual
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Initial Impressions
When I first got this Mod, I was pretty impressed with it. I’m no stranger to DNA mods or lost vape mods. Last year i purchased their therion snake skin dna166 edition and prior to that i purchased their triade DNA250 as well and i have quite a few DNA mods. They make some of the nicest looking mods in my opinion and the DNA chip itself is one of the best in temp control on the market. I love the design of the paranormal itself as i never got their older version. It has a upscale classy look and nice weight and quality to it. The new DNA C chip interfaces are much improved over the older non C versions with some new features and i was already familiar with it having reviewed a couple DNA 75C mods already as well. The big new feature here is replay which i’ll go over in a bit that wasn’t out when i did my DNA 75C reviews however you can upgrade the firmware to add it into the 75C chips now. Either way it’s safe to say my expectations were met form the start out of what i expected with this mod which were pretty high.
Watt Mode Performance (chart and spreadsheet in picture album)
Now let’s get into some data. I ran my normal testing. I used Sony VTC5A batteries for the testing. I also did the case analyzer and set the internal resistance (i’ll explain that more later) Testing resistances were done at .118, .15, .2, and .621 ohms. wattage points were max (200), 150, 100, 75, 50 and 25. At .118 ohms it maxed out at 198 watts and 41 amps. For the rest of the testing it was on point or a little on the low side 1-4 watts. Really accurate at such a low resistance where many mods struggle At .15 it maxed out at 207 watts. The rest were pretty good hitting slightly high across the board, it was 6 watts high at 150 setting but only 1-2 watts high 100 or less worse case. For the .2 test it maxed out at 206 watts. Again pretty good but a little on the high side. For 150 test it was 11 watts high but under 150 2-7 watts high. For the .621 testing it maxed out at 95 watts and 7.679 volts. For the rest of the testing 2-7 watts high. The volts shows there is no boost circuit in this mod like most dual battery mods on the market however the 7.679 was very good for a non boost circuit mod.
Overall I felt the performance of this mod was really good as expected from a DNA mod. However it’s not the dead on accurate much better than any other mod in power mode people tend to claim it is. Objectively speaking the test results shows it performs on par with other good performing power mode mods, but not any better either. I was impressed It didn’t really struggle with the .118 ohm build as I was able to get 198 watts at that resistance, but it’s not the only mod to push almost 200 at that resistance either. Once you get to the 150 watts on other resistances it tends to hit a little high as well as hitting a little high all the time at the .2 ohm resistance or higher. It’s most accurate at .15 ohms or less but still very good accuracy overall compared with other mods. They did add in a preheat option as well. The older DNA chips didn’t have one but could be tricked into it with escribe. The new one has a simple easy one to set up but all my testing was done with the preheat off (called boost) I’ll go over that more later.
I was able to get 207 watts max, so I consider it to be accurately rated at 200 watts, even a little underrated. It’s understandable as it’s a universal chip not made for just one mod and the max output actually changes based on the battery configuration used. In 2 battery mods like this 200 watts is the max. But with 3 battery mods it’s 250-300 depending on firmware and with 4 batteries listed at 400 watts. So essentially the chip will do 100 watts per cell. The 7.679 volt limit shows there is no boost circuit. I’m sure they have it listed somewhere but i couldn’t find a volt limit or amp limit specifically for 2 battery configuration on the chip. The 7.679 i got with a .621 ohm coil was good though. For amps the most i got was 41 with a .118 ohm coil but it was capped off by watts. It’s possible it could have gotten even more but the 41 is right around the average for a dual battery mod and supplying max wattage at such a low resistance means amps will never be an issue. The mod never got warm when stressing it at 150+ watts and handles it very well.
A couple of things i wanted to point out here. I’m glad they added a preheat to the mod in power mode that is easy to set up. It’s called boost and you can turn it on and then pick form level 1 to 11. With that said there are 2 things i feel missing from this mod for power mode. The first is a watt curve mode. While i normally wouldn’t ding a mod for not having it and consider it a pro when a mod does, since the DNA chip is considered one of the best in the market and it seems like such an easy thing for them to add in, i’m surprised it hasn’t since many cheaper priced mods do have watt curve mode these days like geekvape, asmodus, aspire, smoant, voopoo and vaporesso and even the new pulse 80w VV chip. A high end company like evolv should be matching features from cheaper companies if those features make sense. The 2nd thing i feel is missing is a boost circuit. I do kinda get it since the chip can be used with 4 batteries in mods and deliver 400 watts and likely over 12 volts in that configuration so it wouldn’t be needed, however for a dual mod it makes a lot of sense so it could have been added in and programmed out if used in 3 or 4 battery mods. Especially since not many 3 or 4 battery mods are made these days yet dual mods are made all the time. If you go back to late 2016 no mods had boost circuits for dual battery mods so it made sense that DNA chips didn’t have them (yes i know the single battery ones have them like most single battery mods, i’m talking about the dual battery mods only here). If memory serves me correct the fist mod to have it was released in early 2017 with the SX mini G class which was a 200-250 dollar mod. However the DNA250c chip released in late 2017 IIRC and at that point companies like vaporesso, aspire, geekvape, and even some wismec mods have boost circuits so again it makes sense that DNA chips should match it
Now i know this section was long winded, but in short while it’s a great chip for power mode, I don’t consider it the best due to the lack of power curve, lack of boost circuit, and it’s accuracy isn’t any better then other good dual battery mods either so for the extra money you pay for a DNA chip it’s not worth it performance wise to only use a power mode mod as it has no advantages over other good mods in this mode and even has disadvantages.
Simplified TLDR Power Performance summary
Mod performance is really good. Mostly hits just a few watts off on the high side or on point. Accurately rated for watts (207), above average amp limit of 41. Volts tested at 7.679 with a .621 ohm coil. Also impressive you can get 198 or more watts (pretty much full watts) from a .118 to a .2 ohm coil. Lacks boost circuit and watt curve modes. Does have pre-heat.
