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Any news on why ecf banned mention of vaporjoe's?

Jonnymac

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Hi guys,

Casual vaper, non-smoker, glad to be a part of the underground >:)

See y'all around.

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Gonzi

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sandy vagina syndrome? I don't know
 
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Jonnymac

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But they haven't made any public announcement as to why? It's definitely a ridiculous and stupid thing to do because, let's face it, I hardly imagine any self-respecting vaper to openly condone anti-competitiveness, it doesn't exactly go with the ethos...

Anyway, I would consider myself as being still a beginner but if you need someone to write the occasional instructional piece for beginners do let me know.
 

ghost62

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ECF has 'School Gym Shower' syndrome...
They aren't concerned about the size of their dick until bigger boys show up...

Metaphorically speaking, of course.

Wonder if they will ban me for that comment?
 

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Ad sales most probably. They want to keep their traffic where they can use it to generate more clickthrough sales. A lot of forums do that apparently. If you have two big forums both dedicated to the same overarching topic, chances are neither will allow links to the other.
 

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ECF has 'School Gym Shower' syndrome...
They aren't concerned about the size of their dick until bigger boys show up...

Metaphorically speaking, of course.

Wonder if they will ban me for that comment?
I thought that was "prison shower syndrome"
 

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Ostensibly it was because they were getting lots of spam from VU members attempting to recruit ECF members. I saw a few such posts that were obviously made by people with dummy ECF accounts before the mods wiped 'em out.

That's probably as close as anyone's gonna get to any official word from ECF administration.
 

Jonnymac

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have posted my thoughts on ecf censorship in their forum. Link Here. Let's see what happens...

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Well... the thread got closed. Apparently we're all hate-filled professional spammers in their 20's...

In truth though, there were some thoughtful replies and I wish I were a professional spammer in my 20's. Probably better pay and who doesn't want to be younger? I was so much more hate-filled in those days...
 

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Well... the thread got closed. Apparently we're all hate-filled professional spammers in their 20's...

In truth though, there were some thoughtful replies and I wish I were a professional spammer in my 20's. Probably better pay and who doesn't want to be younger? I was so much more hate-filled in those days...
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"Every now and then a successful internet marketer who sells porn, torrents and all the other stuff they do, latches onto ecigs and tries to make a dollar. If he is successful then he can dupe people into working for him. We can't afford to give one of these internet marketing empires a bunch of links because it may look as if we are involved."

The last post was a subtle hit against Joe, basically because they dont like him, for whatever reason. The rest of that particular post was them being whiny about VU. It boils down to they dont want any competition. They claim VU was bashing ECF from the beginning, no, that is not true. The bashing was going on long before VU was an idea in Joe's head. People get banned from ECF at the drop of a hat, for various and sundry reasons. VU just happened to be where all these folks could vent and bitch in one spot instead of 900 other threads on 500 different twitters, facebook or other places. It boils down to Not our Monkeys, Not our Circus. ;)
 

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Wasn't such a subtle dig.

Anyway I'm very happy that VU is open for business. I feel much happier about the future prospect of exploring manual mods and building my own coils with the support here.
 

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I feel way more at ease here with my fellow adult vapers, I don't have to feel so paranoid and or proofread what I am aboot to post for fear of being met with Teh Insta-Ban-Hammer!

Much appreciated Joe and the other Staff who made this possible.
 

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Guy who closes the thread obviously gets this from his friends:

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And my post is changed to:

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You make your bed, you lay in it.

If the bed they've made didn't cause so much discontent, they wouldn't have to bite their lip to cover for their errors. They created the opposition with their own policies. If Joe didn't start a new forum, someone else would have. Action and reaction. They are simply finding it easier to point the finger elsewhere, than to acknowledge that they own the blame.
 

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"Every now and then a successful internet marketer who sells porn, torrents and all the other stuff they do, latches onto ecigs and tries to make a dollar. If he is successful then he can dupe people into working for him. We can't afford to give one of these internet marketing empires a bunch of links because it may look as if we are involved.;)

Heinrich Himmler couldn't have said it better...
 

Jonnymac

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But do you notice the language there? Seriously, I know nothing about the guy but I wish I was a successful internet marketer who sold porn, torrents and other stuff. "Other stuff" easily encompasses rare Russian books. How can an independently minded grown-up think this is possibly a bad thing?!

However ghost62 you have made a fatal error. You have fallen prey to Godwin's Law and thus played directly into the hands of the Legion of ecf.
 

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Godwin's Law aside, my point remains valid.
The most successful propaganda isn't an outright lie, but rather, based on manipulation of the truth.
Please bear with me and understand that I am being neither argumentative nor anti-semetic... just supporting my comparison
1. ECF attempted to take a high ground by calling Joe Petner's morality into question. Nazi propagandists painted the Aryan race, especially Nazi Aryans, as morally pure, superior and above reproach while calling the Jews perverted sub-humans.
2. The Third Reich imprisoned, and even executed people for existing opinions contrary to their own. They held rallies specifically for the burning off books and destruction of art and media outlets in order to control what the general populace had access to. ECF prohibits ADULTS from even mentioning- oh well- you get the point.
3. Successful Jewish businesses were targeted. Their owners murdered. The assets seized. Buildings burned. All of this under the guise that Jews were greedy and enslaved the hard-working honest Germans. Sounds a lot like what was said about Vapor Joe's, huh?
4. And finally, after establishing Jews as dirty, immoral, greedy thieves, the Nazi party began attacking anyone that supported Jews or Jewish businesses saying that to associate with them made you as bad as they were. Sounds kinda familiar, huh?
From my personal experience, I've seen Godwin's Law in play many times and usually it's a cop out from a weak mind trying to be profound, but in this case I feel the comparison is spot on.
Again, I hope I haven't offended anyone (except Nazis), by discussing how a cruel and warped group portrayed an entire race.
On a side note, I haven't deactivated my ECF profile. Waiting to see if they do it for me for being a VU member.
 

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On a side note, I haven't deactivated my ECF profile. Waiting to see if they do it for me for being a VU member.

they would have to "deactivate" a butt load of us then. ;)
 

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Godwin's Law aside, my point remains valid.

No offense taken here dude, just found it funny and was trying to be funny more than anything else. I mean, I get your point, really I do. But a political argument between two web forums is hardly an attempt at genocide! Look, I'm not exactly anti-ecf, just find their over-protective practices absurd. Nobody's going to die because we're going to get together and build a forum we feel more comfortable with.
 

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Very true, my friend. I wasn't even attempting to be confrontational. Albeit Godwin's Law was a little deeper than I expected especially since the last sub-forum I responded to was 'Bacon Tits'.
Have a great evening!
 

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It is mentioned more than once, that they fear losing their status in search engine results.
Also mentioned in one post is that "we are all adults here on ecf" ( or something similar).
Yet, when I say fuck on ECF , I will get banned.....hmmm..adults never hear this language?.
 

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It is mentioned more than once, that they fear losing their status in search engine results.
Also mentioned in one post is that "we are all adults here on ecf" ( or something similar).
Yet, when I say fuck on ECF , I will get banned.....hmmm..adults never hear this language?.

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the last sub-forum I responded to was 'Bacon Tits'.

I saw that thread, absolutely brilliant. To be honest, while I was writing my response earlier I was conscious that I didn't want to come across as an asshole, but that sort of things is like the big red button to me y'know? It sort of gets away from me at some point near the end and I'm standing near it after it's been pushed.

 
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I think rolygate said it clearly.

He thinks joe is an internet marketeer. Who " sells porn, torrents etc..."

Joe has not been active in the porn industry for years now.

But anyone that knows joe, knows this...


My opinion, is that rolygate fears the competition. Plain and simple.
 

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