Anyone Here Try The Ketogenic Diet?

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  1. JuicyLucy

    JuicyLucy My name is Lucy and I am a squonkaholic Staff Member Senior Moderator VU Donator Diamond Contributor Member For 3 Years VU Challenge Team ECF Refugee

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    That is a good point, but many who have quit sugar have also quit alcohol

    Moderate amounts of red wine have actual health benefits, sugar does not

    Sugar also interferes with beneficial gut bacteria in a very big way, much the same as many artificial sweeteners which I disdain as much as processed sugar and corn syrups

    And so-called "raw" sugar is not harm reduction, its just less processed - it does have extremely minute amounts of trace elements, but the amount is negligible
     
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    You guys are making me afraid to eat again. Where the hell are my tranquilizers?
     
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    Not big Pharma !!!! That shit will really kill you :p
     
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    Exactly. That's exactly why I pay no attention to the "sugar is poison" crap. Without it, I really wouldn't care to keep living, so I might as well eat it, enjoy myself, and eventually do what every other living thing does: die.

    Andria
     
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    It's really not, it just takes some will power. I have had 2 small meals today and 1 total carb (from some of the less than ideal ingredients in the pork sausage I used for my scotch egg).
     
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    I used to say similar things about w**d and **caine but I eventually gave those up.

    I will just leave this here:

    The Startling Link Between Sugar and Alzheimer's

     
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    I'm Not doing without alcohol
    I drink a whole bottle of Maker's mark after a work week.
    Sure I get a buzz, but I live alone and I enjoy it.
    My blood sugar is cool.
    I don't have any problem. I stay home when I do it and rebuild my RTA's and so on..
    No Problem.
     
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    Yeah, I don't have "high blood sugar." My glucose, and A1C, are perfect. And this was while pretty much fasting yet drinking a "regular sugar" ginger ale, back when I had the flu. If I ate gobs of sugar, or drank alcohol, I might be concerned, but I don't do either. I refuse to believe that moderation in sugar consumption, like moderation in everything else, is a bad thing. The only reason I don't drink is because I CANNOT be moderate, if I drink -- "If I have one, I'll have 13, no, there ain't no in-between -- the more I drink, the more I drink, the more I drink." Thank you, Blake Shelton, that describes it perfectly. If those of you who exclude sugar have a similar problem if you eat sugar, then I can understand it.

    You know how those public health idiots are, out to take away everyone's enjoyment in everything, so we can all be as miserable as they are. I ain't playing dat.

    Andria
     
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    I'll be frank and share an unwarranted observation/opinion.....

    People ARE addicted to food. Instead of eating to live, we live to eat. It's celebrated in any food commercial, celebrated on every holiday, and bragged about every weekend. We eat too much, and we eat too much "crap". Shop like a diabetic sometime. Eliminate anything with sugar, processed flour, potatoes and white rice. You have literally eliminated 90% of the food in a grocery store. You are basically stuck to buying whole foods along the outside around all the shelves with few exceptions. All of those food that are off limits, are actually pretty unhealthy, even if you "try" to consume only small amounts of it.
    Sugar and processed flour are in nearly every food you buy. They are very cheap fillers, and they are very unhealthy. More people are diagnosed with diabetes each year, then ever before. And I know in the times my mother grew up in, they ate more deserts then we do now. My mom used to have pie at breakfast, as did most people when she grew up. But all the food they ate, wasn't laced with sugar, nor was it mostly all processed foods, either.

    Me, I don't care what people eat. I care what I eat. But it is of note, more people are in poor health and it's because of what we stuff our faces with. Bad for us foods, are addictive like cigarettes. We crave them or eat a lot of it, because it triggers an addiction in the brain.
     
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    I actually had bacon for dinner last night. Only bacon.
     
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    Bacon is the world's only true super-food.
     
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    My meals yesterday, after meal prepping a bunch of pork.

    - 2 HB eggs and 6 slices of bacon
    - 1 Scotch Egg (1/4# of sausage wrapped around 1 HB Egg)
    - 1.2# of Western Pork Ribs

    I was in a pork mood apparently.

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    The key for me to stay carnivore is to meal prep. I also have a bunch of leftover chicken wings and baked ground beef in the fridge from meal prepping I did Thursday or Friday:
     
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    Bacon should have its own food group, at the top of the pyramid.
     
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    Are you English?
     
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    Try side pork, or the unprocessed version of bacon. It's not cured and injected with salt and sugar.
     
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    nope, I just had a bunch of pork to cook/prep. I normally only eat pork for 1 meal a day and chicken, beef or salmon for the other 2 meals.
     
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    pork belly yumm, i need to buy another slab of that next time I go shopping.
     
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    Did you eat the bacon as it was in the picture?
     
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    yep, i don't like it crispy. I fold it twice and bake it at 400 for 20 minutes. leftovers go in the fridge and get ate cold.
     
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    Like my bacon just crispy but not cooked to death.
     
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    I do a version of a keto/low carb style diet. Usually less than 20 carbs. To alter my set points I cycle a few no carb days and switch up to 30 carbs. I have lost 57 pounds so far. I gained a lot of weight being on Prednisone for 2 years. I started the WOE (way of eating) back in Feb 2018 for the anti-inflammatory response of the diet.
     
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    Love me some pork belly! I like it best when it's first slow roasted at a low temp for a few hours, then allow it to cool until it firms up. Then cut into cubes and crisp up the outside a bit in a high temp skillet.
     
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    Yeah, it took me 3-4 weeks and I was already keto but I have seen other keto users say they basically had no issues adapting. Make sure you get plenty of water, sodium and other electrolytes. I used pink salt plus morton lite sale (sodium and potassium) and supplemented calcium, magnesium and more potassium. There are other things like Nu-Salt or No Salt that are straight potassium you can use with your preferred salt as well.
     
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    Thanks dude. We dont really salt anything but this is good info for when we need to, I am more concerned with the variety. I had 6 port cutlets yesterday and a mix of chicken and beef today. While not bad, I am going to struggle with the lack of green and leafy things. Just not even having it on my plate is screwing with my head. I need to summon my inner wolf.
     
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    Hubs doesn't like the smell of bacon cooked in the house. I use my gas grill outside to cook up a lb here and there. Line the grates with aluminum foil and cook on low. He doesn't complain anymore.
     
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    So now you attract all the dogs and racoons for miles around?
     
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    That's grounds for divorce right there.
     
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    So I'm just gonna be blunt and throw this out there...
    Anyone else saving money on toilet paper since they started this WOE?
     
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    That will change soon enough. You will experience some of that during a diet change and then get back to normal.
     
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    So Keto reduces Voopiing time?
    Still weighing the pros and cons of that aspect....
     
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    Yes, I think so but it is hard to recall after 7 months carnivore. Now that I am carnivore I go once every 2 or 3 days.

    That will change for you if you stick with the carnivore. You will probably go thru a lot during adaptation (flushable wet wipes will be your friend during and after (consistency is different) adaptation) but once adapted most carnivores go much less (frequency and volume).
     
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    I'm a girl so I still use toilet paper. I do know what you mean though. BM's are lessened on the eating plan. However, I have to watch the fat intake (sometimes) because I had the gallbladder removed last year. It's trickier but adaptable. If I do to much fat at one time I will have a dumping syndrome episode. TMI..I know.
     
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    Had to tap the fuck out on the carnivore thing. M-I-S-E-R-A-B-L-E. Since we were already in Ketosis from eating nothing but flesh we made the easy jump to Keto. Much happier now.
     
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    Yeah, I need a little more than meat. Made some saute'd spinach to go with my braised mojo pork tonight. For sweets, I'll have a lemon/lime slushy later on with fresh squeezed juices, erythritol, and ice in the Nutri-Bullet.

    Gonna try a lime/coconut cream version tomorrow.

     
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    I have never once in my life been excited to see zucchini. Its good, and I like it but it is not particularly a sexy veggie. You would have thought I opened an Xbox for Christmas today.
     
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    :D :D :D

    I try to stick to things that are leafy, and a bit of cauliflower.

    You can also turn zucchini into veggie spaghetti, and use a homemade Alfredo to make a good keto-friendly dinner. Add some chicken that was breaded with either almond or coconut flour, and melt some provolone and mozzarella cheese on it.
     
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    Instant brain freeze

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    We have a couple of spiralizers for when we go raw. Now that we are off the all meat thing it starts getting better from here. That lime coconut slushy sounds awesome.
     
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    What about Sea Salt? Is it really full of fish piss?
     
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    Quit being a dick
     
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    The iodine of sea salt is naturally occurring rather than a adulterant as you find in regular table salt - no ammonia, lol

    Pink Himalayan salt is what everyone is raving about these days - also contains many many trace minerals


    He's just razzing me - he can't help himself
     
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    Every time I see this thread I have to do a double take.

    Keto spam is the most dominant of all the spam that shows up on the forum.

    I promise I won't spam ban you guys :D
     
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    It's all good.

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    on the see food diet
     
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