Are so many commercial juices overdosed?

[Giraut]

I have to dilute about half of the ready-made juices I purchase if I drip them. For instance, I have this citrus-flavored juice that's quite enjoyable if I vape it in a Protank 2, but gives off an overpowering taste of Lemon Pledge in my drippers. Or this passion fruit juice that tastes like some horrid kid's shampoo gone bad when dripped. Conversely, my own recipes taste fine when dripped, but taste bland when vaped in an older tank.

I suppose juice manufacturers dose their recipes to taste okay even in crappy tanks. But what gets me is, tanks seem to get better and better, yet I seem to buy more and more juices that taste crazy in modern hardware.

Is this something you've noticed too?

 

[CTFX]

Have you tried steeping said juices?

 

[bondo]

I do believe that the majority of commercial juice is over saturated. My guess would be that it's due to the fact that most new vapers are coming from cigs and still have muted senses.

If you watch the clerks @B&Ms,most won't offer noobs a 100w+ mod and a mutation but instead point to the ego's and protanks with house juices.
I've only tried a handful of premium juice brands but for the most part,all of the flavors I've tried between them have tasted better dripped or in a subtank over carto's and clearo's.

 

[Dixie1954]

Also different gear and/or coils mean different taste as would different voltage and/or wattage.

 

[wllmc]

weird questions get weird answers

here is my take on 90% of the B&M shops I have been in. most are staffed by and opened by guys who just started vaping 6 months ago and not really sure whats going on and when it comes to "house" blends forget it. Its always some dude who read a couple forums for a couple weeks and convinced someone to let them be the mixologist because that someone just started vaping to and is blown away by this guys "knowledge" of mixing so he said sure sounds good to me. Then the guy says , crap ! I got the job and runs to VU , ECF and reddit to really learn to mix but by then its far to late so they just pump out junk and the locals dont know any better because thats all they have or its gas station ecigs. so those people end up on a forum and eventually here, only then will they find great recipes, advice and learn the ancient art of shake and vape, going on to never need vendor juice again.

and that my friends is the story of why most juice sucks .

written by wllmc
narrated by morgan freeman

 

[CTFX]

Must have Morgan Freeman as a narrator or else it won't sound authentic

 

[wllmc]

Must have Morgan Freeman as a narrator or else it won't sound authentic

haha it sounded best, I tried samuel l jackson but there was to much cursing and just sounded angry

 

[CTFX]

Yeah Lawrence fishbourne is a good alternative...just saying

 

[wllmc]

Yeah Lawrence fishbourne is a good alternative...just saying

hahaha

 

[wally]

After a few years of vaping your system cleanses it's self and you require much less flavor strength. This is why a lot of us make our own and I also dilute my friends potions for them. Now this is not always the case I know a few pot smokers that still like there vape on the strong side. But then again there system is not cleaned out because of the THC. And different devices will mute or increase flavor's not near as much as I was talking about above but they will make some difference. Kicker, sometimes people give me some juices they don't prefer because they are too strong so if I like the smell from a distance I will actually use it as a flavor, I have had juices that were so strong you only needed a few drops for a 30 ml bottle lol. A lot of that is company's just don't know what they are doing remember this is new to people and there are a lot of so called Mixologist's out there.

 

[Rin Vapes]

Unless it's made specifically for dripping, it probably is "over-flavored". Many people are still using tanks. Almost always (if not always), an RDA is going to have more flavor than a tank. (especially if you compare it to a protank) It's easier from a consumer standpoint to have to dilute the product rather than add more flavor to it. The best way to avoid this is DIY or buy dripper blends.

 

[Zamazam]

haha it sounded best, I tried samuel l jackson but there was to much cursing and just sounded angry

James Earl Jones.

 

[nabibrian]

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[Rin Vapes]

Lol. Love him

 

[MC5]

Overflavored liquids are a bargain for a lazy frugal DIY vaper like me. As I started dropping my flavoring level in my mixes, I adjusted to needing less, so I can order a tasty premix and cut it with VG and/or PG, stretching my vaping dollars!

 

[CurlyxCracker]

Yeah Lawrence fishbourne is a good alternative...just saying

I was thinking Peter Thomas (Forensic Files)

 

[Swerved]

Unless it's made specifically for dripping, it probably is "over-flavored". Many people are still using tanks. Almost always (if not always), an RDA is going to have more flavor than a tank. (especially if you compare it to a protank) It's easier from a consumer standpoint to have to dilute the product rather than add more flavor to it. The best way to avoid this is DIY or buy dripper blends.

Truth.

 

[BigNasty]

Considering most are PG heavy from 40 to 90% pg tp carry the flavor it does not really shock me.

 

[Huckleberried]

haha it sounded best, I tried samuel l jackson but there was to much cursing and just sounded angry

turns this

and that my friends is the story of why most juice sucks .

into this:

And that, mutha fucka is the story of why most juice is some bullshit. Say what again!

 

[wllmc]

turns this



into this:

And that, mutha fucka is the story of why most juice is some bullshit. Say what again!

LMAO ! thats exactly how it sounded in my head to !

 

[NightOwl]

Overflavored liquids are a bargain for a lazy frugal DIY vaper like me. As I started dropping my flavoring level in my mixes, I adjusted to needing less, so I can order a tasty premix and cut it with VG and/or PG, stretching my vaping dollars!

I've been doing this since the 2013 Casablanca (BackwoodsBrew.net) drought. It is the only flavor besides unflavored that I could continuously vape after a ml or so. I had two 30ml bottles I stretched for 5 months by diluting it with a matching nicotine base. Eventually I preferred the diluted flavor. Now just 5-10% Casablanca seems like a mouth explosion of flavor.

Since I'm down to between 3-5% nic now, I'm considering ordering Casa at 24mg and diluting it with plain VG. Sort of a hybrid between DIY and premixed. I'll have to play with the numbers to see what works best.

 

[dnezarmichael]