I have the ml. It works great and hits almost as well as my Dana 200s. However, several things detract from it. First, IMO the software stinks compared to escribe. It wouldn't install on my main computer (Norton kept deleting it saying it was dangerous) so I installed it on my old laptop and it just doesn't work right. So much so I was afraid to download it to my device. Second, I vape in TC at about 50-70 joules and the battery life is terrible. I start getting weak hits at 50% battery life. Worse than any of my dna mods by far. Third, it is heavy. My vt200, lava box, and axis capes are all much lighter despite being much larger. In addition, the update makes the DNA so much easier to use in temp with temp dominant mode. The ml takes many button presses to get through the lengthy menu system to change many simple things. Just my0.02.