I think I am getting fairly good at making coils so maybe the problem is the cotton I just don't know this has been driving me nuts I am going through wire and juice like crazy trying different builds. I have a magma and plume veil . The plume veil I get a little vapor from but nothing like I see in videos and the magma the little bit of vapor that is produced burns like hell when I inhale. I have tried every thing from twisted 22 gauge dual coils to single 28 gauge coils. I have a 26659 panzer and both my rda's are the 26650 versions this is the current build I have on the plume veil it is twisted 22 gauge I don't think I am getting the cotton right