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Discussion in 'Coil Building' started by Jack Merridew, Jun 21, 2015.

  1. Jack Merridew

    Jack Merridew Bronze Contributor Member For 4 Years Member For 3 Years Member For 2 Years Member For 1 Year

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    I only build micro coils and recently I've watched a couple of videos on youtube depicting how to build Clapton coils, dragon coils and the likes...

    Is there a purpose to these advanced coils, or is it just for show?
     
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    Coiling penis contests IMHO.
     
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    There are some "designer" coils that wick the juice better (for flavor) and blow huge clouds. The benefit is the flavor can be very good, normally the bigger clouds have less flavor. The down side is you tend to go through a lot of juice. 2 or 3 hits will run a atty completely dry.

    Oh, and they can be kinda fun to build.
     
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    yeah there's a lot of difference in flavor and clouds.....
     
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    I'd like to educate myself on different coil types. For example, is a Clapton coil better for clouds or for flavor?
     
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    pulsevape Diamond Contributor Member For 4 Years

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    Dude.. get yourself a bunch of wire of different gauges and just jump in...the type of coil you prefer will be a matter of personal taste, just as cigarette brands were a matter of personal taste...except for menthol cigaretttes which were a matter of mental disease.
     
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    Check out Twisted Messes on youtube and instagram. There are a couple more coil builders on youtube also that build some really cool coils.
     
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    I started a thread on the subject ( http://vapingunderground.com/thread...il-builds-advanced-building-techniques.94922/ ) for that very reason. I love the challenge yes but in all honesty i find many of these coils taste better and hold more juice. To me it is worth the effort and time.
     
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    Bro Instagram vapers are the best. Twisted messed is a beast. Check out coil porn and wire theory too. They have some awesome builds. Welcome to the world of advanced building, friend.

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    I've used Clapton coils before and it didn't really impress me. I'm fine with my parallel coils. Or just the basic coil.


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    it's for fun, i thoroughly enjoy building, and the process of creating some sexy coils and getting good shots of em and sharing em on IG, I vape everything I build or atleast attempt to, some people just do it for the likes, Im building because I fell inlove with vaping all over again and continue to as my building continuously progresses, some people say they get the same flavor off of a parallel or whatever, I do not.....cannot....will not agree with that logic ever, I will 100% say that you haven't really tasted your juice until you've vaped some builds lik this, it'll make your jaw drop, to achieve flavor you need channels, places for juice to sit in and hide, and no your not sacrificing clouds for flavor, the cloud production is still there and the flavor is still there, this is not flavor or clouds, its flavor and clouds, anyone in the DE, MD, NJ, or PA can check me out on the weekends at a shop called Vapeii I part time at on the weekends
     
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    Well said KISS. I am indebted to folks like you, squidoode, twisted messes and ohmboyoc for opening my eyes to a new level of hobby and enjoyment of vaping. Totally agree with you. I haven't vaped a simple coil or even parallel one in months after discovering the combination of flavor and cloud produced by these types of specialty coils. They are worth the work, the wire and the patience.

    The only caveat i have is if someone doesn't understand ohms law, have good batteries, and (typically) a regulated device these super sub ohm builds can be dangerous.
     
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    Doesn't go dry with this for wicking! uploadfromtaptalk1435809027951.jpg

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    Well Jack, from what I read in this thread, everybody blew smoke and didn't answer your question. My concern is, how well do they dissipate heat if they have increased heat capacity.
     
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    This is just from my experience and my own opinion. Flavor can improve. Bigger clouds don't always mean decreased flavor. Personally I prefer the taste of stainless or nichrome to kanthal, for me kanthal mutes the flavor. I started with micro coils, contact and spaced. Then I got a bit better flavor out of twisted coils, simple 2-3 strands twisted up. Spitback seemed to happen more often. I went to fused claptons and those are what I prefer most. The flavor is better, the vapor is a bit denser. The final coils end up a bit more solid so stand up to rewicking better than thinner single strands. I get around 2-3mo out of my coils and if the flavor wasn't noticeably better for me I wouldn't bother making them.

    I like a deep lung hit and can't tolerate much throat hit so I vape 70-80% vg juice. The clouds are bigger but I don't chuck clouds for contests or do any nifty tricks. My favorite trick is wicking so the rta doesn't leak. lol. From what I've heard from many others, beyond fused claptons or aliens there's not a huge difference in flavor. There might be some difference, I won't say there isn't but definitely seems to be a point of diminishing returns. Many build fancy coils because they can. It's a challenge, it's a way for them to relax, they appreciate the artwork and seeing what they can do.

    As far as retaining heat, I generally build with thinner wire. 26-28ga cores, 38ga wraps. My resulting coils aren't 'beefy' and don't retain the heat real bad. They respond pretty well without requiring a ton of wattage (dual coils at .13 ohms and 65w currently). They heat up and cool down fairly fast so there isn't a lot of juice cooking on the coils after taking a vape. Yes I realize this thread was resurrected but if others have similar questions maybe it'll still be of some help.
     
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    I'm a builder, and I sell coils, plus I've done some coil porn. I'm a sole mech 18650 tube user and what works best for me are Alien Framed Staples (Fraliens) and Staple Staggered Fused Claptons (SSFC). Whether they be dual or single coils I build soley in N80 unless someone makes a special request and I can generate lots of flavor and clouds so that's the way to go for me, but it's a super subjective thing and there is no right or wrong way to vape as long as you are doing it safely IMO.:banana:
     
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