Can you tell me about 3FVAPE?

[kennedyhexohmfan]

Sums it up, it was in the link I posted. The goons are legit, 528 Customs IMO are not to be trusted....

If you want to support 528 Customs so much, why not buy direct?

They are out of stock on the original Goons. They just have the 1.5 which i don't like and, incidentally, is priced at 30 bucks. They told me they will be stocking up on originals soon. And yes, i believe in supporting the designers and manufacturers of this product. The way i see it, it is their intellectual property so they should get the revenues for their invention. If i invented something, i would want the profits and would be very upset if someone else was profetting from my idea. Nevertheless, i don't judge people that buy knock offs. They want to save money. I get it! To each its own. So yeah, i make it a point to always buy direct. I own a hexohm, two kennedys, a recoil, and a kfun. All bought straight from the manufacturer. I should have kept the habit. But, i know better next time.

 

[Gina3FVAPE]

Thank you for your support and attention.
Because it is a weekend, I am sorry that I have not responded to the relevant message.
Please know that on our website, about cloning and authenticity (that is, the original product), our product page will specify,
for example, this product is marked http://www.3fvape.com/rebuildable-a...earch_query=528+goon&results=481#.W9ZxMHpubIU. "Authentic", Explain that this product is genuine and authorized.
This products，http://www.3fvape.com/rebuildable-a...ainless-steel-14mm-diameter.html#.W9ZxwHpubIU,
The product with style is different from "Authentic", please browse the product information carefully.
Choose different products and give your experience a different experience. You can choose what products you like.
Any questions, You can check directly on the product page or open a ticket on our website for help and support.
Thanks for your support!

 

[kennedyhexohmfan]

Thank you for your support and attention.
Because it is a weekend, I am sorry that I have not responded to the relevant message.
Please know that on our website, about cloning and authenticity (that is, the original product), our product page will specify,
for example, this product is marked http://www.3fvape.com/rebuildable-a...earch_query=528+goon&results=481#.W9ZxMHpubIU. "Authentic", Explain that this product is genuine and authorized.
This products，http://www.3fvape.com/rebuildable-a...ainless-steel-14mm-diameter.html#.W9ZxwHpubIU,
The product with style is different from "Authentic", please browse the product information carefully.
Choose different products and give your experience a different experience. You can choose what products you like.
Any questions, You can check directly on the product page or open a ticket on our website for help and support.
Thanks for your support!

Again, if you are selling genuine and authorized Goons, why does 528 Custom Vapes, emphatically denies that you are selling originals? They insist that you are selling clones. In fact, they unflinchingly accuse you of selling nothing but clones. This self verification arguments are circular and really doesn't prove anything. "Its authentic because we say its authentic!" You need to do better than that. Also i have opened up a ticket with 3FVAPE only to have them tell me that" if i find the Goon to be authentic, than it is not a clone." This statement is hilarious but at the same time it insults the intelligence of your customers. lol

 

[obijuan77]

 

[SteveS45]

 

[Gina3FVAPE]

Again, if you are selling genuine and authorized Goons, why does 528 Custom Vapes, emphatically denies that you are selling originals? They insist that you are selling clones. In fact, they unflinchingly accuse you of selling nothing but clones. This self verification arguments are circular and really doesn't prove anything. "Its authentic because we say its authentic!" You need to do better than that. Also i have opened up a ticket with 3FVAPE only to have them tell me that" if i find the Goon to be authentic, than it is not a clone." This statement is hilarious but at the same time it insults the intelligence of your customers. lol

Thank you for your attention
Sorry, because the responsible things are different, the issues and information discussed with you are limited. All information is subject to the product page, this is our information released according to the supplier, please understand,
The information we have learned is like this,
Please contact our professional team for any questions.
Good day!

 

[kennedyhexohmfan]

Thank you for your attention
Sorry, because the responsible things are different, the issues and information discussed with you are limited. All information is subject to the product page, this is our information released according to the supplier, please understand,
The information we have learned is like this,
Please contact our professional team for any questions.
Good day!

Thank You for your reply.
Sorry, because the responsible parties refuse to give accurate product information and continue to sell clones as authentic. The information i have is limited but reliable since it comes from 528 Custom Vapes, the manufacturer. I have no reason to think they are giving me false information about their product and those cloning their rda. All reliable information is subject to the manufacturer that actually make the authentic product. This is my information according to the manufacturer. Please understand that the information i learned from the manufacturer is reliable. LOL. And don't worry. There is a sucker born every minute so you won't have any shortage of people buying clones believing they are buying an authentic article. Personally, as long as i get my money back, i really don't care if people can't see past the scam. Thank you for being so professional and polite.
Have a great day!

 

[kennedyhexohmfan]

 

[Gina3FVAPE]

Thank You for your reply.
Sorry, because the responsible parties refuse to give accurate product information and continue to sell clones as authentic. The information i have is limited but reliable since it comes from 528 Custom Vapes, the manufacturer. I have no reason to think they are giving me false information about their product and those cloning their rda. All reliable information is subject to the manufacturer that actually make the authentic product. This is my information according to the manufacturer. Please understand that the information i learned from the manufacturer is reliable. LOL. And don't worry. There is a sucker born every minute so you won't have any shortage of people buying clones believing they are buying an authentic article. Personally, as long as i get my money back, i really don't care if people can't see past the scam. Thank you for being so professional and polite.
Have a great day!

It's OK.
Any questions, You can open a ticket on our website for help and support.
Thanks for your support!
Good day!

 

[kennedyhexohmfan]

It's OK.
Any questions, You can open a ticket on our website for help and support.
Thanks for your support!
Good day!

Oh I know its ok! And yes i did open a ticket already only to get the same bogus replies. Also, please don't thank me for my support since i don't support your website.
Good day!

 

[Gina3FVAPE]

Oh I know its ok! And yes i did open a ticket already only to get the same bogus replies. Also, please don't thank me for my support since i don't support your website.
Good day!

It's up to you.

 

[kennedyhexohmfan]

It's up to you.

Yes! it absolutely is up to me. Love these exchanges. I wonder which one of us will actually have the last word. I'm personally committed to keep going!

 

[kennedyhexohmfan]

Anyone interested in verifying the claims i have made here against 3FVAPE, please contact Kaylee Atchley, Client Relations Specialist at 528 Custom Vapes 817 349 0225 (9am-5pm) . You will get a straight answer, no shenanigans! If this isn't enough, look into Armageddon. The owner is trying to take action against 3FVAPE for selling apocalypse rda clones.
Have a great day and keep on vaping!!

 

[Gina3FVAPE]

Please know, I am only a member of 3FVape, not 3FVape myself, so I am happy to discuss everything about it with anyone. Please do anything that you think is reasonable. If 3FVape makes a mistake, I think you have Reasonable, I also support you to do it.
I won't promise to talk to you all the time, because there will be more people who need help, and I will do my best to help them, even if we have a better team to solve those.
Thank you for your attention and support. We have always dealt with anything with the most sincere attitude. "It’s a pleasure to have friends coming from afar!" I believe that everything can be resolved through communication, but the position is different.
Good day!

 

[kennedyhexohmfan]

Please know, a am only a member of 3FVape, not 3FVape myself, so I am happy to discuss everything about it with anyone. Please do anything that you think is reasonable. If 3FVape makes a mistake, I think you have Reasonable, I also support you to do it.
I won't promise to talk to you all the time, because there will be more people who need help, and I will do my best to help them, even if we have a better team to solve those.
Thank you for your attention and support. We have always dealt with anything with the most sincere attitude. "It’s a pleasure to have friends coming from afar!" I believe that everything can be resolved through communication, but the position is different.
Good day! [/QUOTE]
Communication is only good for solving problems when its honest communication. Also, you are not just a member, you're a vendor with a vested interest in defending the interests of 3FVAPE even even if it means condoning their fraudulent practices.
Good day!

 

[obijuan77]

Communication is only good for solving problems when its honest communication. Also, you are not just a member, you're a vendor with a vested interest in defending the interests of 3FVAPE even even if it means condoning their fraudulent practices.
Good day!

https://www.reddit.com/r/electronic...ck_528_customs_never_buying_their_crap_again/

umm, you mean like 528 customs, the co. you love so much??? 528 customs is shady & greedy as hell, and they've pulled this before with other vendors.

I would check your facts there

From the link over a year ago:

Fuck 528 Customs. Never buying their crap again.

"For those who don't know, recently Eightvape.com ran a sale on Goon 1.5s for $30. Word got back to the owners of 528 Customs and they immediately claimed Eightvape is selling clones as authentics. (Sound familiar?)

So of course Eightvape's customers got very upset. Eightvape defended their position that they're selling authentics and reached out to 528 who stuck to their accusations, going so far as to say they've never had business with Eightvape. Given the chance to retract that statement, 528 ignored it and stuck to their guns.

That's when Eightvape produced a screenshot of their wholesale purchase of these Goon 1.5s from mother fucking 528 directly!

So what does 528 do? They accuse Eightvape of forging the goddam invoice."


And this:

"I can't fathom the stupidity of treating retailers like this. For what? Because they listed their product below the RRP? And it's not the fucking first time either! Remember when they basically strong-armed 3fvape into raising the price of the Goon?"

 

[obijuan77]

I even found the pic of the $55,000 invoice from 528 vapes to the vendor as proof:

 

[kennedyhexohmfan]

https://www.reddit.com/r/electronic...ck_528_customs_never_buying_their_crap_again/

umm, you mean like 528 customs, the co. you love so much??? 528 customs is shady & greedy as hell, and they've pulled this before with other vendors.

I would check your facts there

From the link over a year ago:

Fuck 528 Customs. Never buying their crap again.

"For those who don't know, recently Eightvape.com ran a sale on Goon 1.5s for $30. Word got back to the owners of 528 Customs and they immediately claimed Eightvape is selling clones as authentics. (Sound familiar?)

So of course Eightvape's customers got very upset. Eightvape defended their position that they're selling authentics and reached out to 528 who stuck to their accusations, going so far as to say they've never had business with Eightvape. Given the chance to retract that statement, 528 ignored it and stuck to their guns.

That's when Eightvape produced a screenshot of their wholesale purchase of these Goon 1.5s from mother fucking 528 directly!

So what does 528 do? They accuse Eightvape of forging the goddam invoice."


And this:

"I can't fathom the stupidity of treating retailers like this. For what? Because they listed their product below the RRP? And it's not the fucking first time either! Remember when they basically strong-armed 3fvape into raising the price of the Goon?"

So, as responses go, i say, A+ for effort! But before we make Gina jump for joy any further, allow me to point out a few things. Fist of all, i don't love 528 nor am i defending them. In fact, my issue is not with them, they don't have my money! My issue is with 3FVAPE. Now, i believe the evidence you submitted exonerates Eightvape not 3FVAPE. In fact, 3FVAPE has refused to give any evidence that they have purchased the Goons from a legitimate supplier. They say they have, but claim they signed and agreement not to disclose the name of their supplier, nor have they provided any invoice. Now the fact that 528 has falsely accuse a vendor before, is circumstantial at best, since 3FVAPE has failed to show direct evidence that this is the case with them also. Hence, only God knows if 3FVAPE is telling the truth. Assuming you believe in an omniscient being! lol Also, may i point out that 528 is not the only manufacturer that has taken issue with 3FVAPE. Armageddon, among others, have taken issue with them. Indeed, 3FVAPE has created for themselves a reputation for selling clones as authentics. Now let's take a look at the issue of greed. All manufacturers operate under the invisible hand of greed including 3FVAPE. Now Gina might deny this and claim that she is doing humanitarian work for a non profit, but we know better right? In fact, greed is the catalyst that drives all economies; even in communist countries that denounce capitalism. The difference is that 528 is greedy with their own intellectual property, while cloners like 3FVAPE are greedy with other people's intellectual property. The former has a right to be greedy, after all, it is their property, but the later is reprochable since they are engaging in theft. Its ok to be greedy with your own property, but to be greedy by stealing other people's property is not. We can say that 528 is greedy, mean and even stingy, but not unjust. You cannot indict them for being unjust in the way that you can 3FVAPE since 3FVAPE is committing an act of injustice by stealing intellectual property for gain. In fact, the only reason why they are getting away with it, is because they are in China! It's also important to note that 528 has the right to sell their Goon for a million dollars if they want to, after all, its their property and you are under no compulsion to purchase it. Nobody is forcing you to buy their product. If 528 was selling their Goon for 80 dollars, I'm not going to hate them for it, they can sell their shit at any price they choose, i'm just simply going to get a good laugh and look elsewhere for a more reasonably priced rda. Bottom line is, 3FVAPE is reprochable for selling clones period. They are reprochaple even if they advertise their products as clones. Cloning is intellectual property theft any way you dice it or slice it and it actually sheds light on the worst type of greed there is. The type that wants to steal what is rightly yours.
Have a great day and keep on vaping! May the force be with you!

 

[obijuan77]

Well, as far as comments go, I'm only going to give you a B-

First of all, GIANT FREAKING WALL OF TEXT! The only reason I read through that is because it was in response to me, but seriously, use some breaks and/or paragraphs, damn.

Now I'm gonna break it down for you some. Here goes, this is going to be a long one......

You say " Fist of all, i don't love 528 nor am i defending them." But you seem to believe everything they tell you, even though it's been proven that they lie.


" In fact, 3FVAPE has refused to give any evidence that they have purchased the Goons from a legitimate supplier. They say they have, but claim they signed and agreement not to disclose the name of their supplier, nor have they provided any invoice."
Fair enough, but if the agreement is true, then they don't have to prove anything to you, or anyone else really. Now, from what I read online, there was additional proof from 3Fvape on social media, but I can't verify that, as I don't have Facebook/Instagram.


" Now the fact that 528 has falsely accuse a vendor before, is circumstantial at best"
Um, no, it's a fact, which no longer makes it 'circumstantial at best' lol I think that one might classify as an oxymoron right there


"since 3FVAPE has failed to show concrete evidence that this is the case with them also. Hence, only God knows if 3FVAPE is telling the truth."
Well, based on the fact above, then I would be more inclined to believe 3F, not 528, but I guess that's where we differ


" Indeed, 3FVAPE has created for themselves a reputation for selling clones as authentics."
I showed you proof, now you show me yours.


" The difference is that 528 is greedy with their own intellectual property"
Well 528customs did not design the GOON, so no, it's not their intellectual property. Or, the Monster V3 either, which is just a modified Kayfun clone. So no, they are just greedy.

" while cloners like 3FVAPE are greedy with other people's intellectual property"
See, I should lower your grade to a C with this comment. 3FVAPE DID NOT CLONE ANYTHING. They just sell the stuff, the 'cloners' are companies like SXK, ShenRay, Coppervape. All excellent 'cloners' btw lol


" You cannot indict them for being unjust in the way that you can 3FVAPE since 3FVAPE is committing an act of injustice by stealing intellectual property for gain"
That's a pretty bold claim, but again, 3F did not clone anything, they just sold it. You seem to be under the impression that they are cloning these and selling them, which they are not.


"Bottom line is, 3FVAPE is reprochable for selling clones period."
Maybe in your opinion, but if it weren't for them I wouldn't have my Skylines which I absolutely love! There's no way in hell I'm paying over $200 for one atty, but for $20 I have several.


"They are reprochaple even if they advertise their products as clones."
No, it would be reproachable if they didn't advertise them as clones! That would be bad, very very bad.


"Cloning is intellectual property theft any way you dice it or slice it"
Finally your last comment is correct, buuuuut, your anger/disdain for 'cloners' is misdirected towards 3Fvape. They are not the cloners, they are not the ones stealing intellectual property.


So your main issue seems to be with the cloners, but also with 3Fvape because they supposedly sent you a clone...of which you have no proof.


So, I will await any proof you have, other than that, it's 'circumstantial at best' lmao. See what I did there?


And if you do reply, please, for the love of God (yes I believe) don't post a giant wall of text!!!


BOOM, so there you have it. That's how a reply is done! ***drops mic***

 

[bobnat]

Well, as far as comments go, I'm only going to give you a B-

First of all, GIANT FREAKING WALL OF TEXT! The only reason I read through that is because it was in response to me, but seriously, use some breaks and/or paragraphs, damn.

Now I'm gonna break it down for you some. Here goes, this is going to be a long one......

You say " Fist of all, i don't love 528 nor am i defending them." But you seem to believe everything they tell you, even though it's been proven that they lie.


" In fact, 3FVAPE has refused to give any evidence that they have purchased the Goons from a legitimate supplier. They say they have, but claim they signed and agreement not to disclose the name of their supplier, nor have they provided any invoice."
Fair enough, but if the agreement is true, then they don't have to prove anything to you, or anyone else really. Now, from what I read online, there was additional proof from 3Fvape on social media, but I can't verify that, as I don't have Facebook/Instagram.


" Now the fact that 528 has falsely accuse a vendor before, is circumstantial at best"
Um, no, it's a fact, which no longer makes it 'circumstantial at best' lol I think that one might classify as an oxymoron right there


"since 3FVAPE has failed to show concrete evidence that this is the case with them also. Hence, only God knows if 3FVAPE is telling the truth."
Well, based on the fact above, then I would be more inclined to believe 3F, not 528, but I guess that's where we differ


" Indeed, 3FVAPE has created for themselves a reputation for selling clones as authentics."
I showed you proof, now you show me yours.


" The difference is that 528 is greedy with their own intellectual property"
Well 528customs did not design the GOON, so no, it's not their intellectual property. Or, the Monster V3 either, which is just a modified Kayfun clone. So no, they are just greedy.

" while cloners like 3FVAPE are greedy with other people's intellectual property"
See, I should lower your grade to a C with this comment. 3FVAPE DID NOT CLONE ANYTHING. They just sell the stuff, the 'cloners' are companies like SXK, ShenRay, Coppervape. All excellent 'cloners' btw lol


" You cannot indict them for being unjust in the way that you can 3FVAPE since 3FVAPE is committing an act of injustice by stealing intellectual property for gain"
That's a pretty bold claim, but again, 3F did not clone anything, they just sold it. You seem to be under the impression that they are cloning these and selling them, which they are not.


"Bottom line is, 3FVAPE is reprochable for selling clones period."
Maybe in your opinion, but if it weren't for them I wouldn't have my Skylines which I absolutely love! There's no way in hell I'm paying over $200 for one atty, but for $20 I have several.


"They are reprochaple even if they advertise their products as clones."
No, it would be reproachable if they didn't advertise them as clones! That would be bad, very very bad.


"Cloning is intellectual property theft any way you dice it or slice it"
Finally your last comment is correct, buuuuut, your anger/disdain for 'cloners' is misdirected towards 3Fvape. They are not the cloners, they are not the ones stealing intellectual property.


So your main issue seems to be with the cloners, but also with 3Fvape because they supposedly sent you a clone...of which you have no proof.


So, I will await any proof you have, other than that, it's 'circumstantial at best' lmao. See what I did there?


And if you do reply, please, for the love of God (yes I believe) don't post a giant wall of text!!!


BOOM, so there you have it. That's how a reply is done! ***drops mic***

Well done!

 

[kennedyhexohmfan]

Well, as far as comments go, I'm only going to give you a B-

First of all, GIANT FREAKING WALL OF TEXT! The only reason I read through that is because it was in response to me, but seriously, use some breaks and/or paragraphs, damn.

Now I'm gonna break it down for you some. Here goes, this is going to be a long one......

You say " Fist of all, i don't love 528 nor am i defending them." But you seem to believe everything they tell you, even though it's been proven that they lie.


" In fact, 3FVAPE has refused to give any evidence that they have purchased the Goons from a legitimate supplier. They say they have, but claim they signed and agreement not to disclose the name of their supplier, nor have they provided any invoice."
Fair enough, but if the agreement is true, then they don't have to prove anything to you, or anyone else really. Now, from what I read online, there was additional proof from 3Fvape on social media, but I can't verify that, as I don't have Facebook/Instagram.


" Now the fact that 528 has falsely accuse a vendor before, is circumstantial at best"
Um, no, it's a fact, which no longer makes it 'circumstantial at best' lol I think that one might classify as an oxymoron right there


"since 3FVAPE has failed to show concrete evidence that this is the case with them also. Hence, only God knows if 3FVAPE is telling the truth."
Well, based on the fact above, then I would be more inclined to believe 3F, not 528, but I guess that's where we differ


" Indeed, 3FVAPE has created for themselves a reputation for selling clones as authentics."
I showed you proof, now you show me yours.


" The difference is that 528 is greedy with their own intellectual property"
Well 528customs did not design the GOON, so no, it's not their intellectual property. Or, the Monster V3 either, which is just a modified Kayfun clone. So no, they are just greedy.

" while cloners like 3FVAPE are greedy with other people's intellectual property"
See, I should lower your grade to a C with this comment. 3FVAPE DID NOT CLONE ANYTHING. They just sell the stuff, the 'cloners' are companies like SXK, ShenRay, Coppervape. All excellent 'cloners' btw lol


" You cannot indict them for being unjust in the way that you can 3FVAPE since 3FVAPE is committing an act of injustice by stealing intellectual property for gain"
That's a pretty bold claim, but again, 3F did not clone anything, they just sold it. You seem to be under the impression that they are cloning these and selling them, which they are not.


"Bottom line is, 3FVAPE is reprochable for selling clones period."
Maybe in your opinion, but if it weren't for them I wouldn't have my Skylines which I absolutely love! There's no way in hell I'm paying over $200 for one atty, but for $20 I have several.


"They are reprochaple even if they advertise their products as clones."
No, it would be reproachable if they didn't advertise them as clones! That would be bad, very very bad.


"Cloning is intellectual property theft any way you dice it or slice it"
Finally your last comment is correct, buuuuut, your anger/disdain for 'cloners' is misdirected towards 3Fvape. They are not the cloners, they are not the ones stealing intellectual property.


So your main issue seems to be with the cloners, but also with 3Fvape because they supposedly sent you a clone...of which you have no proof.


So, I will await any proof you have, other than that, it's 'circumstantial at best' lmao. See what I did there?


And if you do reply, please, for the love of God (yes I believe) don't post a giant wall of text!!!


BOOM, so there you have it. That's how a reply is done! ***drops mic***

Look up circumstantial vs direct evidence instead of asking me what you did there with your clear misunderstanding of the terminology. Circumstantial to the issue regarding 3FVAPE not Eightvape. What you gave as evidence, is direct evidence for Eightvape not 3FVAPE. Now, if you knew anything about arguments, you would know that the burden of proof is not on me but on 3FVAPES since it is their claim that these are legitimate when the manufacturer says they are not. As for 528 custom not designing the goon, i assume that you know who did, but you never say. As for evidence of their reputation, social media will suffice since you are asking about reputation not fact. Now whether you think this is a false reputation is another issue. As for cloning not being reproachable, you may want to provide and actual argument for that claim. As for 3FVAPE not cloning but selling, makes no difference since they are still profiting from stolen intellectual property. Just cause i didn't steal the shit doesn't mean i'm justified in selling it. Finally, I didn't break it up for you because i wasn't writing you an essay just a thorough response which you clearly didn't deserve. Finally, if you do respond, be respectful and spear me the bombs and "drop the mike" shit, i'm not fourteen. In my response, i simply tried to explain my position, i was not hostile. Do likewise if you want me to honor your post with any further responses. Otherwise, you can have the last word and continue to be wise in your own eyes.

 

[kennedyhexohmfan]

A note anyone that might read the aforementioned: My apologies for not writing my response in paragraph style, double spacing, indenting, numbering each paragraph, adding side notes, bolding words you might be unfamiliar with and providing you with the definitions. I didn't think i was writing a textbook or an essay but a long yet simple response to a reply. I believe everyone in this site is more than capable of reading, following, and understanding what i wrote without these aids. But, if i'm wrong, again, i apologize.

 

[obijuan77]

meh, I was going to annihilate your previous post, but I think I will just take your last suggestion

Otherwise, you can have the last word and continue to be wise in your own eyes

people like you make that very easy. thank you & goodnight!

 

[kennedyhexohmfan]

Well thank God, and yes i believe in him, that i didn't get annihilated with BOOMS! BANGS! and I can finally rest in peace knowing that nobody is going "drop the mike" on me! lol

 

[Just Frank]

First of all, GIANT FREAKING WALL OF TEXT! The only reason I read through that is because it was in response to me, but seriously, use some breaks and/or paragraphs, damn.

I cracked up bigtime when I read this ^^^.

This thread took off more than I expected. I've learned a few things from reading it all.

 

[Just Frank]

A note anyone that might read the aforementioned: My apologies for not writing my response in paragraph style, double spacing, indenting, numbering each paragraph, adding side notes, bolding words you might be unfamiliar with and providing you with the definitions. I didn't think i was writing a textbook or an essay but a long yet simple response to a reply. I believe everyone in this site is more than capable of reading, following, and understanding what i wrote without these aids. But, if i'm wrong, again, i apologize.

Just a line break here and there will suffice. When I see a post the way you did it I usually say FRAT (Fuck Reading All That) and skip it. It's hell on the readers eyes.

 

[Just Frank]

I even found the pic of the $55,000 invoice from 528 vapes to the vendor as proof:

View attachment 123119

I guess I've never thought about it. But stores like Eightvape shop just like we do. Only they spend and get shitload more. The software or whatever the store uses to check out looks the same.

 

[obijuan77]

I cracked up bigtime when I read this ^^^.

This thread took off more than I expected. I've learned a few things from reading it all.

LOL. I tried

 

[Just Frank]

LOL. I tried

Some people just refuse to "Get it".

 

[SteveS45]

Some people just refuse to "Get it".

Some people don't get it no matter how hard they try..................

 

[obijuan77]

yea, thats why I shut up after that last post. I was actually trying to help lmao

 

[kennedyhexohmfan]

 

[kennedyhexohmfan]

yea, thats why I shut up after that last post. I was actually trying to help lmao

Or maybe some people just have a different view and we can agree to disagree without getting hostile and insulting. Also, if you were trying to help, like you claim, you would have abstained from using sarcasm and unnecessary, not to mention, childish mockery like "booms" and "bombs". Instead, let the strength of your actual arguments speak for themselves. If you have a strong argument, i will be the first to thank you for teaching me something. If not, we can disagree, after all, there is nothing wrong with thinking differently. But its bigotry to think that, when people don't agree with you, they simply "don't get it"! Your objections where as simple as they get and not complex or difficult to follow at all. I just didn't agree with you. Get over it!

 

[kennedyhexohmfan]

Just a line break here and there will suffice. When I see a post the way you did it I usually say FRAT (Fuck Reading All That) and skip it. It's hell on the readers eyes.

Well I'm sorry my text strained your eyes, but if you learned something, i guess it was worth it. Or maybe not. Either way, we can agree to disagree.
Thanks for your response,have a great day, and keep on vaping!

 

[SteveS45]

 

[kennedyhexohmfan]

 

[SteveS45]

 

[kennedyhexohmfan]

And what makes you think mine was about you? If you cared to read my previous response where i mentioned bigotry, you would know this was not about you. Also, no need to be fucking rude.

 

[obijuan77]

 

[kennedyhexohmfan]

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LOL!! Now this explains why you see everything so clearly, while i just don't get it! Good one!!!

 

[kennedyhexohmfan]

 

[kennedyhexohmfan]

The Goon is 528 Custom Vapes first dripping atomizer and is designed by a legendary builder that goes by blueeyedgoon83 on Instagram. If you're not familiar with his work, he is the guy that invented the alien coil, the tsuka coil, the arched clapton and a few other exotic wire builds.
The Team Of Blueeyedgoon83 @Team_goon
by all team members @528_custom

https://vaping360.com/best-vape-tanks/rdas/528-custom-vapes-goon-review/

 

[SteveS45]

 

[kennedyhexohmfan]

LOL!!! Again, if you had cared to read the previous response, you would have known that this was not an advertisement for 528 but a clarification to an objection that was raised previously. This one: "Well 528customs did not design the GOON, so no, it's not their intellectual property. Or, the Monster V3 either, which is just a modified Kayfun clone. So no, they are just greedy." Dude! stop shooting yourself in the foot!!
Nevertheless, is good that, at least, you didn't use any signs with profanity this time.

 

[kennedyhexohmfan]

Anyway, clearly this thread is made up of like-minded individuals who love giving each other thumbs up for thinking alike and having zero tolerance for anyone that disagrees with them. Most of you, obviously, love your clones, and somehow got your sensitivities hurt with what i wrote. lol. But, like i said, i don't judge people who buy clones! That's your business! You can buy whatever you want! i don't care! I just have a different view regarding clones and i personally don't feel comfortable buying them. That's a personal choice for me!! Not for you!! In fact, that's what prompted my concerns with 3FVAPE to begin with. I respect your choice. Why can't you do likewise? Also, some of the people here should learn to have a respectful conversation and even a debate, without getting disrespectful and stupid. That's not what this website is here for and that is why, unfortunately, it has to have moderators. Peace out and have a nice life!!!

 

[kennedyhexohmfan]

IRONIC or what?? A quote from a fellow Chipmunk: "At first I thought that ECF was a nice place until the Moderators showed that they are a bunch of A-Holes and some of the members are immature ID-10-T's who are trolls just looking to argue." Unless these trolls think like you right? Then you give them "likes" and compliments...Heck, I also wish this was a "nice place" where you can share ideas and points of view without getting pummeled for thinking differently. But, unfortunately, we can't always get what we want. Unless what you meant by "nice place", is a place where you can gang up on members that don't think like you and your buddies, without a moderator intervening. If that's so, then, this is a great place!... Good bye!!!

 

[kennedyhexohmfan]

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[kennedyhexohmfan]

Dear Sir, i want to extend my sincere apologies for being so crass with you. I was under the impression that i was dealing with a youngster trying to get one over me. I had no idea that you where my elder. Not by much, but still my elder. I don't believe i disrespected you in any way and i do hold different views regarding clones, but still, i should have had more tact in our exchanges. I respect anyone no matter what their age is, but i was raised to have extra respect for individuals older than me. I wrote to you like a peer or someone younger and that was wrong. Please disregard everything i said about your posts before and after the present one. Again, i'm not being sarcastic but sincerely apologetic. Have a great day and again, my sincere apologies! God, i was really out of line! I am truly sorry!

 

[freeboy1936]

[HASH=869]#3fvapeisscam[/HASH] They sold me 4 clone RDA in the name of authentic ..They said me those atomizers are not clone but they don't have SN number...You tell me what's Goon 25 mm RDA without SN number (Serial Number)? They have ignored me and always close my ticket...3FVAPE is SCAM....Stay away from 3FVAPE

 

[SteveS45]

Thread is dead for almost 2 years if you look..................