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Current Status Of FDA Deeming Rules?

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    vuJim Gold Contributor Member For 4 Years ECF Refugee Reddit Exile

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    I had thought I'd read here, recently, the deeming rules relating to vaping would:
    1. Essentially render just about anything reasonable against the law to sell, incl. juice, atomizers of all types, etc.
    2. Go into effect sometime mid-May of this year (2020)?
    But, in searching, the first non-FDA hit that came up was this: FDA Deeming Regulations On E-Cigarettes Postponed: What That Means. It says:
    But the article is dated July 31, 2017.

    So I'm confused.

    Can anybody clarify as to what is the current status of the FDA's Deeming Rules relating to e-cigarettes/vaping and when they're going to be put into force?
     
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    The current status is they go into effect Sept. 9 2020.
     
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    Ok. Thanks for the follow-up, @PuffOn
     
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    The July 2017 date you saw (2022 effective date) was before the FDA got sued by ANTZ demanding they enforce deeming now. The FDA lost the lawsuit and agreed to begin enforcement May 12, 2020. They were granted an extension by the court for Sept 2020 due to the Corona Virus

    Very confusing shit
     
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    The amazing thing, to me, anyway, is that every time I've mentioned "FDA Deeming Rules" in a LVS, they've gone "Thuh whut?" and looked at me like I was speaking in tongues.
     
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    The Cromwell The Frugal Vapist VU Donator Diamond Contributor Member For 4 Years

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    Also mods must now pass UL certification under Deeming rules.

    which will likely prevent all replaceable battery and mech mods from getting FDA approval to be sold.

    Also FDA recently sent letters to Uwell and others telling Uwell to take the Caliburn off the US market.

    So in reality September is now the deadline for FDA enforcement regulations to be enforced, however it does not mean they have to wait until then to selectively enforce the deeming regs. As we have seen with the January pod flavor ban and now with the Caliburn ban and letters to other distributors and manufacturers of what they deem to be vaping products attractive to underage persons.

    I suspect we can expect more FDA actions prior to September as well.

    My expectations is that no open vaping systems will get FDA approval and no mix and match setups ie extinction of the 510 connector system. This is from my reading of the PMTA requirements documents.
    Just internal battery all in ones, pods or cigalikes probably for sale legally in the not so distant future.
     
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    Marvelous [​IMG]

    I suppose I best add another dual-18650 mod, for a spare, just in case. Best get to lookin' to see what's hot.
     
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    Yeah a really sucky outlook for vaping in the US.
     

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