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Do people still use 20 awg wire.

MrMeowgi

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Picked some up today for free from a friend. Installing in a parallel mech. Just wondering if people still use larger wire.

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I was working my way down the gauges till I started building complex wires. There are people out there who still swear by basic builds. I guess it's all subjective and down to what you want from a vape

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Yea I feel like I'm back pedaling. Started small. Went big the back to small and squonking. Now I guess I'll set the parallel mod up and run it for a bit. I still enjoy big clouds but my lung capacity isn't what it used to be

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I stripped my troll rda installing the 20 ga in one side. Boooo... I guess it's a single coil rda now but with the single 20 the dual airflow still works better than single.

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26650 squonk? What kind is that

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26650 squonk? What kind is that

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A squonker is a type of vaporizer where you put your batteries and a bottle of juice inside the battery compartment. Squeezing the bottle feeds the juice inside the RDA via a short tube. There is a hole in the battery door where you squeeze the bottle. A hollow 510 pin is required for a squonk to feed the RDA correctly. You can purchase one for the Goon and the Kennedy that I know of, and probably others as well.

This is a squonker.

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His squonk has one of those big 26650 batteries inside. Here is a picture of one from my Hohm Slice. (It uses a single 26650 as well.) These batteries will typically have a higher CDR. This one has a CDR of 32.3 amps.

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A squonker is a type of vaporizer where you put your batteries and a bottle of juice inside the battery compartment. Squeezing the bottle feeds the juice inside the RDA via a short tube. There is a hole in the battery door where you squeeze the bottle. A hollow 510 pin is required for a squonk to feed the RDA correctly. You can purchase one for the Goon and the Kennedy that I know of, and probably others as well.

This is a squonker.

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His squonk has one of those big 26650 batteries inside. Here is a picture of one from my Hohm Slice. (It uses a single 26650 as well.) These batteries will typically have a higher CDR. This one has a CDR of 32.3 amps.

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Thanks for that. I meant what mod he had that was a 26 squonk mod but I guess I should've just googled it.

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By itself id hope not....too much wire mass, even at.1 that much ramp up and heat isnt good for your cells...plus they retain heat for a LONG time.

20g is good for a clapton core for decore (snakespine/tsukas and alien framed staples)
 

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By itself id hope not....too much wire mass, even at.1 that much ramp up and heat isnt good for your cells...plus they retain heat for a LONG time.

20g is good for a clapton core for decore (snakespine/tsukas and alien framed staples)
Yeah I did a parallel with a 28 but stripped the female end on one of the sides. So tossed that and went back to the inbox.

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lol! I still use 22AWG wire....i am lazy sometimes and will use a set of premade claptons. but I still like my plain wire coils too especially ss316LL

get N sub Ω low...

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I guess I'm kinda lucky that my juice is such a gunk monster; no fancy coils for me, it would just give all that gunk more nooks and crannies to hide in. :D Plain ol 8-9 wraps of 29ga, somewhere around 2 ohms, dry-burn twice a week and replace about monthly.

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26650 squonk? What kind is that

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It's a Toaster Designs 3D printed squonk. Not many 26650 TD out there and Mark has taken it off shapeways.
I love it. It's nice to have a squonk that I can use a big build in now and then.
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It's a Toaster Designs 3D printed squonk. Not many 26650 TD out there and Mark has taken it off shapeways.
I love it. It's nice to have a squonk that I can use a big build in now and then.
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Gorgeous color, and that driptip looks spiffy with it!

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I love SS wire, I ordered 22-40....as in 22,24,26 ect... gauge kanthal wire from amazon and they sent me SS wire by accident and I've been hooked since then. I like the versatility of being able to run VW and TC mode off the same coils....although I never really was in to TC until I got a paranormal DNA 75C, that mod made me a TC believer lol. I got a spool of SS vandy vape staple staggered fused Clapton wire and it's great, I definitely recommend it.

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I guess I'm kinda lucky that my juice is such a gunk monster; no fancy coils for me, it would just give all that gunk more nooks and crannies to hide in. :D Plain ol 8-9 wraps of 29ga, somewhere around 2 ohms, dry-burn twice a week and replace about monthly.

Andria
I forgot you vape pure air! LOL
just going from 0.10 up to 0.20ohms is a world of s different for me. don't like 0.20. I'm damaged, spoiled.

get N sub Ω low...

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It's a Toaster Designs 3D printed squonk. Not many 26650 TD out there and Mark has taken it off shapeways.
I love it. It's nice to have a squonk that I can use a big build in now and then.
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That's sweet man.I love that color

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I forgot you vape pure air! LOL
just going from 0.10 up to 0.20ohms is a world of s different for me. don't like 0.20. I'm damaged, spoiled.

get N sub Ω low...

️Cloud Chasing️

Not pure air at all, thx to my Achilles -- super-saturated flavor!

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I have a 50' roll of it in 316l waiting for me when I go home on Sunday. I like the idea of using it for alien wrap core. What combinations of awg wire will that work on? I guess 50' is overkill for core wire use for alien wrap. Probably only really need a couple of feet but I'll enjoy toying with it anyway. I've got a box stuffed full of coils that ohm'd too low, are just ugly or whatever. I purge it every few days. It's funny looking at what I was so proud of only a week before.

I really don't know if this is a sustainable hobby for me unless I start selling them or just make the occasional coil that I actually need. That first alien I made myself was hella expensive after all the materials and tools. Only way to make that less expensive is to make more!

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The biggest wire I've ever used for FCs was 24awg. That was my favorite type of wire in naked builds too before I got into FCs, so I guess I'm kinda biased. Bigger wire always felt kinda meh to me.
 

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Yep, just made some coils last night with 20 awg wire. They came out pretty darn good if I say so myself!
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I use 22 AWG SS316L myself so I don't 20AWG is that much thicker.
 

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20g is also good for polished coils. They make for some great coil porn, but the vape quality is rather meh.

Really? I get good flavor out of my 20g coils. I was told once the more surface area of coil the better the flavor? Does that sound right?


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Yep, just made some coils last night with 20 awg wire. They came out pretty darn good if I say so myself!
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Hey girl. :wave: Where ya been hiding!

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Been super busy with work...I am still around, just not as much as I would like to be!


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Well.. I guess that's an acceptable reason not to hover at VU... Work brings $$$... which brings more vape goodies! :giggle:

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Some of us use thicker! I got this wire a couple months ago when I first got into building. I've only made a couple single coils for my pharaoh with it, but it actually had pretty awesome flavor. Crazy ramp up time though. If this stuff was kanthal with higher resistance I would probably use it more.
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Some of us use thicker! I got this wire a couple months ago when I first got into building. I've only made a couple single coils for my pharaoh with it, but it actually had pretty awesome flavor. Crazy ramp up time though. If this stuff was kanthal with higher resistance I would probably use it more.
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The drain time on a cell is actually more destructive to the cell then amperage draw. A .06 on a single cell takes about 2 seconds to fully ramp and vape. A .08 or .1 with 3-5 seconds of inhale is actually more work for the cell as its draining longer.
The heat in the cell builds up over time and this is what deteriorates the internals and causes it to raise resistance internally (the cell).
So coil mass should be accounted for before resistance. Multiple smaller cores at a lower resistance would be more effective and more efficient to vape then a single strand 16/18/20/22g coil.

Sorry, every time I see a wire that thick I feel I should say something...possibly saving your cells life expectancy and vape time.
Try 5x28g SS (4 Wraps/3mm ID @ .07 Ohms) or use N80 for .09 Ohms and get a similar vape and longer run times.
 

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Thanks for the knowledge. I don't really use it anymore I just bought it because when I decided to start building I just told the guy at the shop I wanted a bunch of spools to get me started. He probably realised he would never get another shot at selling this $25 spool of mechanics wire.

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Thanks for the knowledge. I don't really use it anymore I just bought it because when I decided to start building I just told the guy at the shop I wanted a bunch of spools to get me started. He probably realised he would never get another shot at selling this $25 spool of mechanics wire.

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The stuff does look good when sanded down and polished :cool:

IF you ever need the hookup for wire I know some of the most inexpensive routes to go for the highest quality wire
 

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The stuff does look good when sanded down and polished :cool:

IF you ever need the hookup for wire I know some of the most inexpensive routes to go for the highest quality wire
Yeah I am interested. I'm trying to build a small inventory of coils and I'm blowing through the higher gauges. I've been pretty happy with kbees, but I'm always interested in finding good deals.

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The stuff does look good when sanded down and polished :cool:

Yeah, that stuff's a PITA to work with. Here are a few pics from about a year and a half ago from when I was first learning to polish coils. Someone on ECF challenged me to use thicker gauge wire, and the largest I could find at the time was 16g N80.

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MrMeowgi

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Or wear 'em as jewelry! :giggle:

Andria
I do have the guaged ears for the guaged wire

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Although I haven't had any earrings for 3 years now the holes are still there. Boo on my part. That's life though. At least I can look at my ears and tattoos and know I had a fun life.
 

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I do have the guaged ears for the guaged wire

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Although I haven't had any earrings for 3 years now the holes are still there. Boo on my part. That's life though. At least I can look at my ears and tattoos and know I had a fun life.

I used to have just regular pierced ears... but apparently the hole has grown back together in the left one, I can't get any earrings thru it at all. Dammit. And no I'm NOT going to force it, that fucking HURTS.

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