E-cigarettes are as dangerous as smoking - just ONE puff could be all it takes to increase the risk

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  1. 5150sick

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    E-cigarettes are as dangerous as smoking - just ONE puff could be all it takes to increase the risk of a heart attack

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4789246/ONE-e-cig-puff-increases-risk-heart-attack.html

    • After five minutes of vape exposure, mice's arteries narrow by 30% in an hour
    • Their (as in MICE) blood vessels also become less able to dilate, increasing blood pressure
    • Long-term vaping more than doubles the artery stiffness of exposed mice
    • Narrow or stiff arteries increases the risk of suffering a heart attack or stroke (in MICE)


      So PLEASE people, if you own mice don't let them vape!


      "The findings will be presented in full at the Cardiovascular Aging: New Frontiers and Old Friends meeting in Westminster, Colorado."



      Seems as this "study" hasn't even been released yet and probably hasn't even passed peer review.

      Watch when the study comes out it will go something like this:
      The "scientists" use a CE4 atomizer at 6 volts with 36mg/ml Nic eliquid on a 100 watt mod mod turned all the way up then proceed to gas the poor mice with charred silica and molten kanthal

      This is the usual anti-vaping "scientific" Gold Standard for getting scary results - 5150
     
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    An average puff is around 5 seconds or less
    If you do that 200 times a day that is 17 minutes or 2 hours over the period of a week.

    They are giving the mice:

    1) Straight non stop vapor for 5 minutes straight as "short duration"

    2) Straight non stop vapor 20 hours per week for EIGHT MONTHS straight as "long duration"

    Then it's all of a sudden it's a huge shocker when their arteries end up stiffened???
     
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    Hahahaha......!!!

    LMFAO...!
     
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    STFU...the scienice is in..98% of all scientist agree that vaping is unprofitable to major corporations...you ant-science hillbilly.
     
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    RUT ROH!

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    LOOK! LOOK!......they turned that poor mouse into a vape junky...soon all his hair will fall out and his testicles will shrivel up, he'll grow obese, cover him self in tattoos, and start wearing a baseball cap....oh the humanity....
     
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    OK, poke at the study all you like, but nicotine is a vasoconstrictor...vasoconstriction is a risk factor for a cardiovascular and/or cerebrovascular event.

    If and until then, live life as you see fit, and if that means vaping, vape on!

    Cheers,
    Ian
     
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    So is coffee, tea and stress at work - neither of which are constantly portrayed as being as dangerous as cigarettes, regulated by corrupt government agencies or banned. What's your point?
     
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    I'm all for making work illegal......think of the childeren.......end work NOW
     
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    You jest but it's coming, and faster that you think: AI, big data and robots are well of their way towards making many human professions totally irrelevant.
     
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    Just that vaping does increase risk. How much? Who knows? Just as dangerous as smoking? Likely not, but we don’t know that for sure either...not until we do double-blind, placebo-controlled, randomized, peer-reviewed studies...and yeah, I know, that will never happen.

    That said, I don’t worry about it, because in the grand scheme of things, the risk is likely very small, and I have bigger fish to fry.

    I mean, I take prescription dextroamphetamine...that is a serious vasoconstrictor...it makes nicotine and caffeine look amateur.

    On the other hand, nicotine + caffeine + dextroamphetamine is a great way to start the morning!

    Cheers,
    Ian
     
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    Vasoconstriction can be a great thing. Just ask anyone with low blood pressure or migraines.

    Andria
     
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    That mouse is gonna get popcorn lung!
     
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    he's gonna sell e juice to baby mice and get them hooked so he can bankroll his mod collection.then he'll move up to dealing to the chimps and the bunnies.
     
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    I thought it was Cottage Cheese Lung we now had to worry about? :question:
     
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    Ah Yes, The elusive cottage cheese lung makes an appearance once again.:giggle:
     
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    Before or after it starts smoking cigarettes ?
     
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    The headline just reminds me of those stupid war on drugs advertisements (propaganda) from the mid 1980's.

    Where "Billy" the upper middle class, smart, talented, church going teen goes to a party with the older kids then takes just one puff from a joint.

    Then they flash forward to just one year later and all of a sudden he's an unshowered, malnourished, male prostitute living under a bridge.

    Then they claim that if it weren't for that one single puff of the demon weed "Billy" would have been a Lawyer or Brain Surgeon.:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
     
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    After they bathe the mouse in pure dicetyl during the duration of the study then hide that fact in one of the supplemental tables that are behind the paywall of the study of course.

    It's an approved American Tobacco Control scientific method.:D
     
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    Or he's become an axe murderer, a la "R**fer Madness". :giggle: :giggle: :giggle:

    Oh god, is a mod now going to send me a pithy little msg about censoring my own posts in order to post verboten content? I got enough of those fuckers over at Asshole Centra.l. :facepalm:

    Andria
     
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    oh well if people stop dying from smoking...then they are out of a very high paying job
     
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    We all need to send glANTZ cakes and pies and cookies, so he can just eat himself to death and go the fuck away and quit annoying intelligent people.

    Andria
     
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    and on what do you base your conviction vaping is worse than smoking?...
     
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    :wtf:
     
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    He bases it on ********

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