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Evolve's new temp controlled 25 watt chip .
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Sounds interesting. I am sure it could be a hot seller if the price range was right.
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Man i can't wait for that , a tiny mod with a high quality temp controlled chip , now thats awesome.
Might this be what is going in the next version of MVP? hmmmmm, that would really rock.
ahhh good thinking
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i got mine and vaporshark is having to send me a new one due to screen malfunctions and battery reading. i can say that 25 watts with temp control is definitely enough for tanks at least, thats actually what im running my kayfun at right now at 450 degrees
This is what I was thinking too, they already said they were working with Evolv on a speacial chip for the 3.0. And they put a DNA 20 in the new SVD 2.0 as well
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Does the DNA 40 watt really provide a superior vape is the question , is temp control that critical , i never had an issue with dry hits or burnt juice , i would be thrilled with a DNA 30 D for my Cana box actually.
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As far as the new MVP , i wouldn't mind a 25 watt Evolve chip in there but only if it was a battery replaceable device. They are already coming out with a few different versions of the new MVP and at least one will be 30 watt .
The 25 watt chip most likely will be in one of them.
The 25 watt chip most likely will be in one of them.
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Highly doubt it unless it was a user replaceable battery model. Doubt your getting a real deal temp controlled DNA 25 type mod for that price.
I think the next phase in vaping gear will be replaceable LiPO polymer batteries.
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This is what I was thinking ... Does a 25W chip even need temperature control? At 25W temperature control definitely comes off more like a gimmick, than innovation. Now on a 100W + device, it makes way more sense.
Yea, I think you are correct. Unless the users is vaping a nickle wire coiled atty, the temp control makes no difference.
Yea, but do you want to vape on pure nickel wire?
I'm just not cool with using pure nickel due to the allergic properties of nickel metal."Results: From 1992 to 2004, 25,626 patients were patch-tested. The percentage of women tested was fairly constant (61.4-66.3%). A steady increase in nickel sensitivity was seen from 1992 to 2004. Subgroup analysis did not identify a population with declining nickel allergy.
Conclusions: Nickel allergy continues to increase in younger and older men and women patch-tested in North America."
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/572961
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To be honest i'm just not sold on the whole "temp control " thing . I do not experience dry hits and burnt juice and i vape at higher ohm's , kanthal works great for me and i am completely happy without temp control .
I think vaping is becoming more compilcated then it needs to be actually.
I think vaping is becoming more compilcated then it needs to be actually.
Isn't one of the reason for the temp control was. because at certain temperatures the jucie releases toxins and lower temp it dosen't?
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I certainly don't see that setting a temperature limit is by any means something complicated...
The issue with the nickel sensitivities, considering the percentage of people, is something that should concern us and should be addressed. Addressing it may be difficult since there aren't that many metals that are generally safe for the majority of people like say gold and certain stainless steels. The issue of possible release of toxins will need to be made vs the potential of a person having an allergy to nickel ( at this time )
The issue with the nickel sensitivities, considering the percentage of people, is something that should concern us and should be addressed. Addressing it may be difficult since there aren't that many metals that are generally safe for the majority of people like say gold and certain stainless steels. The issue of possible release of toxins will need to be made vs the potential of a person having an allergy to nickel ( at this time )
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Most know the potential risks of vaping high wattage and low ohms by now and most choose to go that route anyway . I have always vaped low wattage and higher ohm's so i am not concerned about coil temps anyway . I typically vape under 10 watts .
Yea, but do you want to vape on pure nickel wire?
"Results: From 1992 to 2004, 25,626 patients were patch-tested. The percentage of women tested was fairly constant (61.4-66.3%). A steady increase in nickel sensitivity was seen from 1992 to 2004. Subgroup analysis did not identify a population with declining nickel allergy.
Conclusions: Nickel allergy continues to increase in younger and older men and women patch-tested in North America."
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/572961
I finally had time to revisit this info and I find the portion quoted takes the information out of context. The following is the info verbatim...
So it wasn't saying that 61.4-66.3% of women were allergic... it was saying that of the people tested that percentage were women instead of men. They did report that in the testing timeframe... they found an increase of nickel sensitivity in the population tested... going from 14.5% in 1992 test groups up to 18.8% in the 2004 tests. The report also indicated that a higher percentage of women vs men have a nickel sensitivity... and that younger ( below 18-19 years old ) test subjects also indicated a higher sensitivity.
This doesn't minimize the importance of the data presented... it just shows that what has been discussed in relation to vaping has been exaggerated by someone taking the information out of context. It also overlooks many other factors... One is that nickel is common in the very foods we eat and those concentration levels differ in certain areas of the world due to the minerals found in the soils those foods are grown in. It also doesn't mention that NiChrome wire itself contains 60-80% nickel itself and the remaining portion is chromium. Kanthal doesn't include nickel but instead includes aluminum ( and iron ), aluminum is also another metal which has health concerns related to it such as a possible link to an increase of alzheimer's seen today. Copper and zinc area also other metals which our bodies required trace amounts of for proper health... but in larger quantities they are also considered poisonous. Some vapers also have a sensitivity to PG and/or VG while others do not.
I don't want to minimize the importance that the study has presented... I simply want cooler heads to prevail and realize that we must take this type of information and keep it in perspective. If you have or suspect a sensitivity to something be it nickel, PG or VG or... whatever. Take the required steps to maintain your health and try to avoid those substances... but don't assume that because some people have a sensitivity that suddenly everyone should take the same precautions...
The question I would have to ask about the nickel wire is if you heat up nickel to warm something else, do you inhale the nickel?? I would say probably not. Therefore the whole scare about using nickel to me is misplaced. I do not believe anyone will have a problem using the nickel wire unless they melt it down. According to Google, Nickel melts at 2,651°F (1,455°C). I do not think the best battery made with the lowest ohm build you can put on it would get that hot. As far as I am concerned, the nickel wire will not harm anyone at the temperature we would be using it at. Especially with a DNA40 or DNA25 temperature controlled mod.
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Actually I do believe that some nickel is transferred to the e-liquid even at room temperatures so the question is the amount and how much ends up being contained in the vapor as well. The nickel sensitivity studies quoted simply used contact patches in their studies. Also remember that these studies also are using/looking at quantities of PPM or similiar which are very minuscule amounts.
Digging up this old thread to ask this question: I am sensitive/allergic to nickel (can't wear earrings or other jewelry with nickel content). I know many people that are, but as jewelry has improved less nickel seems to be used, so it may be that newer generations aren't aware if they have this sensitivity.
Based on this, I would be terrified to vape nickel - imagine if the mess with my skin were in my lungs? It would go from annoying presumably to dangerous.
Has any research been done on this to see whether an skin allergy would also affect the lungs/throat/mouth from using nickel wire? I wouldn't use it simply because I'd have to use gloves to wrap the coils, but I'm wondering how much is known about this?
Based on this, I would be terrified to vape nickel - imagine if the mess with my skin were in my lungs? It would go from annoying presumably to dangerous.
Has any research been done on this to see whether an skin allergy would also affect the lungs/throat/mouth from using nickel wire? I wouldn't use it simply because I'd have to use gloves to wrap the coils, but I'm wondering how much is known about this?
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One of the DNA40 beta testers was also highly allergic to nickel, but suffered no I'll effects from vaping nickel wire. It seems the nickel stays put in the atomizer.........
Can you tell me where this was reported? Nickel doesn't like me eeber.
Good to know - thanks!
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Is eVo suing this evolv as well?