Exploding regulated mods?

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  1. cogli0ne

    cogli0ne New Member

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    Hi!

    I'm currently vaping on an evic vtc mini with a subtank mini around .4 ohms. I use lg hg2 and samsung 25r batteries and i've been feeling pretty safe.

    I've seen some news stories about mods exploding in vapers faces, knocking their teeth out and worse. Almost all those cases were mech mods, but today i stumbled upon a guy in my Facebook feed whose joyetech cuboid with cubis tank exploded in his hand leaving him with a burned hand.

    Should i be concerned about my current setup?
    I want to be able to just relax and vape without worrying.

    Is there something i could do to prevent accidents like that?
     
  2. Markw4mms

    Markw4mms #Team Jimi Supporter Staff Member Senior Moderator VU Donator Diamond Contributor Member For 2 Years ECF Refugee

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    I haven't heard about the story you mentioned, but the VTC mini battery compartment is very different than the cuboid with a spring loaded top post and the entire back is exposed when the door is removed, and the cuboid you load the batteries kinda like a flashlight from the bottom. I have a feeling that one of the batteries had a small flaw in the wrap, and it got torn some inserting it into the mod and caused a short making the battery vent. Always make sure to keep an eye on your battery's wraps, and rewrap or take them out of service if the wrap becomes damaged.
     
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    Thanks for the reply. Here's the story.
    The post is in danish, i understand some danish but i had to use google translate to fully understand.
    One guy asked him about the wattage and temperature and he answered 25w and 265 degrees.
    He wrote that it exploded but maybe he meant combusted.


    Your theory on the battery seems logical. If it vents with a lid on the bottom there's probably more pressure in the battery compartment.
     
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  4. DED420

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    You should be fine. You have a good mod, good batteries, and a good tank. As long as you maintain everything in a good working order (clean contact pins regularly, clean off spilled juice, avoid dropping frequently, battery wraps are good, etc) you shouldn't have any issues. So unless the mod fails catastrophically (chip failure, shorted cables, etc) which would be unavoidable (and have no recorded cases of doing that with the VTC Mini) your good to go.

    I would have to assume that the mod was a dud, or it was user error, which is the cause of like 95% of accidents. It's a little more obscure to happen with a tank and regulated mod, but if used or treated incorrectly, it could cause a failure. As long as you understand and respect your gear, you shouldn't have an problems like that guy did
     
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    Thanks! Looking at the pics of the injury, I stand by my hunch about what happened, but I'm sure we'll all hear more about it in the coming days. The media never misses out on a chance to scare people about those evil e-cigs. :rolleyes:
     
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    There have been a number of regulated mods which have had safety issues- iStick 50 and Smok M80 to name a couple. Just because it is regulated, doesn't mean it is safe. It all depends on the design and QC...
     
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    Sorry Steve, I'll add that it also depends on user error, which in most cases is what brings these stories to the media, that and Anti's
     
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    So it was probably the battery that was faulty and not the mod?
    I don't think it will hit the international media since it was two weeks ago and in Denmark.

    But the issues with those two were mainly because of built in batteries right?
     
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    I'd like to know what power he was using and battery brand....Trustfire ... Ultrafire..... Lotsofire?
     
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    Looks like an efest in this one [​IMG]


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    Looks like an Efest to me also. That's why I tell people not to buy them. Mooch tested one and it was a 10amp battery. Not to say the mod's not defective but...
     
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    That also looks like an Istick type mod, though
     
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    If you blow the picture up you can read Cuboid on the case. Could be a bad mod but at 25 watts and boom, got to be more to the story.
    The guy looked pretty burnt though, got to feel for him. Ouch damm ouch.
     
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    Big power mods are dangerous than normal ecigs, should be more careful when use them
     
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    Seems like it's almost always user error.
     
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    Yeah using cheap crappy batteries is dangerous in ANY mod.

    Could this happen with a known safe battery, yes. In any mod. The moon could also fall from the sky, tomorrow. One possibility I can minimize by only using trusted quality batteries which are in good condition, within the batteries safety limits. If the Moon thing happens. The batteries won't matter.
     
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    No!
     
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    Mods blowing up are extremely rare. Still practice safety but I wouldn't stress about it.
     
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    To me a news story is something that contains facts and information...Not one of the "mod exploding" stories had any info or facts
     
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    I can easily imagine that being the case if they were soft lipo packs. Much more easily than faulty wiring/soldering, bad analog components or a bad chip. That stuff generally works properly or not at all. They can only work in one way. The components get damaged and stop working when something in the chip or the rest of the circuit doesn't work right. And hopefully, if the designers are smart, they build their devices to fail in that way. Sometimes, they don't even have to.

    I just don't see a lot of ways for these devices to accidentally do something bad to your batteries... ...chargers would be my only concern when it comes to that. Those easily can.

    Lipo packs don't handle shock nearly as well as lithium cells do. Drop them too hard and they can short internally. Denting or getting knocked around at different points in the manufacturing process is also a concern. I mean, being fixed in a metal enclosure probably helps a lot, but even then, a significant enough impact to seriously damage them is still possible... ...maybe even being mishandled in transit can be enough. There's often not enough between the case and the battery to buffer the shock.

    I don't think they're so fragile that this would be common at all, but you really don't want to knock them around. You won't necessarily know immediately after damaging it that a cell in the pack is frying itself. I've always found the practice of putting lipo packs into something that is often dropped questionable. It's not like these devices are blowing up left and right, but it does open the door for that to happen.

    And then there's the fact that if an integrated battery does vent, then there's no quick way to remove it.

    Integrated chargers for integrated batteries are sketchy, too. You have no way of seeing how the battery is doing. You have to blindly trust what may or may not be a reliable charger that's charging to what you can only hope is the proper voltage.

    Mods can fail and you can't control that, but that's not the main danger, imo. It's the batteries, which fortunately is something you have control over. Ruling out user-error and bad lipo packs probably eliminates 99% of the already minuscule number of exploding regulated mod cases.

    Really just a hunch, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was true. One thing is for sure, though. You'll never know from following the news reports. Someone who makes regulated mods would be a better source. I'd really like to know what the people who implement all of these chips think about these things.
     
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    Haven't heard of any regulated device exploding lately, but I suppose that if you use the wrong kind of battery, any mod (or to be more exact the battery inside it) can explode or leak.
    Somehow in all those "my mod exploded" stories they fail to mention the important info like which battery was used.
     
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    Hey guys... i have a cuboid mini mod...with a siren 22 rta..use builds arround 1 ohm ...vape at 17 w. It is safe? Or its better a mod like evic mini so you can see your battery and replace it.
     
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    You're good.

    Variety's the very spice of life, that gives it all it's flavour.

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    Yes... assuming your battery is in good condition.

    Only difference really is that in one you can see and touch the battery...

    Touching might be valuable.... in most cases if you can SEE a battery issue... it's already too late.

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    I would say you are very safe, unless you are running at say 75W as that would be overdrawing a HG2's CDR, even then it is unlikely anything would happen, but still not worth risking going over.

    Anything with a battery in can go bang, and unfortunately as we use our mods in our mouths, and next to our faces, if it does happen it is worse than say a phone sitting on a table.

    Not sure what happened with the Cuboid, but things like this are very, very rare with regulated mods. So many protections are offered, and I bet many vapers have been saved by the 'atomizer short' error on a regulated mod.
     
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    a co worker was telling me about a story of a mod exploding and how SCARY it is (as he was puffing on a cigarette) i said yea, user error is probably the cause, but what scares me more than user error is the variety of diseases you get from cigarettes... lol he didnt like my response
     
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    G priv, 2x30q, big baby beast, .17ohm, 35w


    I believe this to be safe? I'm right yeah?

    /"also is the g private concise red a regulated mod?
     

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