FDA Regs and What you can do to help...

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  1. Countrypami

    Countrypami The Link Ninja Staff Member Senior Moderator VU Vendor Employee VU Donator Gold Contributor VU Live Host

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    Here's How You Can Help! - Updated 5.18.16

    NOW is the time to FIGHT for your right to VAPE! #fightthefda

    Don't wait for someone else to do it for you.
    These new regulations:
    - will ban nearly 98% of vaping products currently on the market
    - will put 1000's of shop owners out of business (due to the enormous cost of the PMTA process)
    - will result in 1000's of unemployed workers
    - will ban sampling
    - Zero nic eliquid will be considered a Tobacco Product
    - Shops who manufacture their own e-liquid will be considered a TOBACCO PRODUCT MANUFACTURER
    We MUST stop this!!

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    The MOST IMPORTANT thing you can do is to make a
    CALL, WRITE, or send an EMAIL to your Representative and urge them to
    cosponsor and support HR2058
    and the
    Cole-Bishop Ammendment
    (And then do it again!)

    Find your representatives HERE
    Federal Register FDA Tobacco Regs: HERE
    SFATA FDA Regs Summary HERE


    Here are some other ways you can help the fight...


    Follow and Respond to calls for action...

    CASAA
    http://casaa.org/
    https://www.facebook.com/CASAAmedia?fref=ts
    https://twitter.com/CASAAmedia

    SFATA
    http://sfata.org/
    https://www.facebook.com/SFATAorg
    https://twitter.com/sfataorg

    American Vaping Association
    http://vaping.info/
    https://www.facebook.com/VapingAssociation?fref=ts
    https://twitter.com/AVABoard

    Gregory Conley - President, AVA
    https://twitter.com/GregTHR
    https://www.facebook.com/grconley?fref=ts

    #notblowingsmoke
    http://notblowingsmoke.org/
    https://www.facebook.com/notbl0wingsmoke/
    https://twitter.com/NotBlowingSmoke

    AEMSA
    http://www.aemsa.org/
    https://www.facebook.com/AEMSAUSA/?fref=ts

    R2B Smoke Free Coalition
    https://www.r2bsmokefree.org/
    https://twitter.com/r2bsmokefree
    https://www.facebook.com/r2bsmokefree/
    Donate to the R2BSmokeFree lawsuit: https://www.generosity.com/fundraising/right-to-vape-campaign-benefiting-ava-and-r2bsf


    We need lawyers... lawyers cost money...
    Donate to any of the advocates listed above!



    Visit your local shops... talk to fellow vapers... encourage them to join the fight!
    Share this on all your social media.
    Be a voice for vaping!

    We lost a major battle... and it certainly has left us with wounds.
    But if we #fightthefda with enough force we COULD win the war!


    #FDA #FDAregulation #FDAregulations ‪#‎fightthefda‬ ‪#‎vaping‬ ‪#‎SupportHR2058‬ ‪#ColeBishop #‎CASAA‬ ‪#‎SFATA‬ ‪#‎AVA‬ #AEMSA ‪#‎notblowingsmoke‬‪ #‎savevaping‬ ‪#‎vapingsaveslives‬ ‪#‎vape‬ ‪#‎ecigs‬ ‪#‎vapelife‬ ‪#‎vapecommunity‬ ‪#‎ecig‬ #eliquid #advocacyeverydamnday #R2Bsmokefree




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  2. Severs

    Severs ECF Refugee New Member ECF Refugee

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    Emails sent, link spammed to my vaping friends.
     
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    Arlongkpr New Member

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    Yes... Today at work i was settings up PC's... I'm in IT.. and i walk by this and didn't give it a look over as i was to busy that second...
    but when i was done i went back and after seeing it .. i was more than irritated.. i started asking questions they didnt like.. and tried my best to stay calm and get answers... but didn't get anywhere...
     

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  4. Severs

    Severs ECF Refugee New Member ECF Refugee

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    Perhaps we should be calling this quit line and asking where they are getting their info from.
     
  5. rolltidevaper

    rolltidevaper Just "1" of this vape family VU Donator Silver Contributor ECF Refugee

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    Thank you Pami! You're the best! Letters sent!!
     
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  6. PhilTBA

    PhilTBA New Member

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    How 'set in stone' are these regs ?
    In the past couple of weeks in the uk, we've been getting some full on 'vapeing Armageddon' stories reaching us.
    This is one of the emails I received this week.

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    From the sketchy reports I've seen, it looks to be similar to what EU countries had in May this year, with artical 20 and the TPD (tobacco products directive) Artical 20 was designed, driven & funded by tobacco & Pharma companies, the purpose was to ban all vape kit, apart from the kit THEY where releasing, and stemming the lost profits on tobacco sales due to how effective ecigs are as a method of quitting cigarettes.
    Unfortunately, in a lot of EU countries artical 20 was brought in, in full force, the U.K. was lucky, the government brought in a very minimal version of artical 20.
    Before it was made law, many people where predicting the end of vapeing.
    In reality, these laws are uninforcable. No country has the manpower, or budget to check EVERY package entering the country, that's what it would take to stop vape kit entering the country by post from overseas, and they already have their hands full trying to stem the flow of illegal drugs entering the country.
    I've also noticed US juice exploits lower tobacco tax by marking juice as containing some of the 'nasties' that are also in cigarettes. They are there, but at no higher than 'trace' or 'negligible' levels, the same things are in a lot of foods on sale, and at higher (and still classed safe) than in eliquids. Zero nic eliquids are exempt from any TPD & artical 20 restrictions in the EU, as nicotine content in eliquid is a tenuous link to something being a tobacco product.
     
  7. 5150sick

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    This is a 100% bullshit scare tactic to get you to buy from this asshole before August 8th.
    NOTHING happens to products already on the market already at all this year.
     
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  9. Huckleberried

    Huckleberried I got a new kitty! Staff Member Senior Moderator VU Donator Diamond Contributor

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    I guess they didn't realize you really do have access to the internet. Such a fail.
     
  10. PhilTBA

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    Thought as much. :) thanks for the link @5150sick looks like you guys are getting your own version of artical 20. Hopefully your lobby groups can get some results in lessening the effects. I've no doubt, just like artical 20 it's tobacco & pharma behind this, vapeing really has them running scared !
    There was a very sweet piece of 'karmic justice' in the uk. The uk government brought in a very watered down version of artical 20, as it worked out, the restrictions that came into effect, only covered basic starter kits/bottle size for liquid containing nic/advertising. Oddly, just the type of ecigs that tobacco/pharma where starting to market. The tobacco/pharma companies asked the government for a 6 month postponement of the implimentation of artical 20 due to 'required investment in equipment & development.'
    So, their 'TPD compliant' devices weren't TPD compliant ! lol
     
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  11. rogue zombie

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    Lol at Vapor Legion

    What rubbish, and not even well thought out rubish.

    "After 8/8 no vaping products can be sold. Buy now and get tank and 5 coils."

    What happens when the 5 coils are used up?

    Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
     
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  12. PhilTBA

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    Mark seems to be a determined wee bunny. lol

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  13. Synphul

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    I'm not sure if this will be of much help, however I've noticed a number of commercials since 8/8 for vape gear. Cigalike and vape pen styles. One in particular for 'logic' brand vape pens, they go through the commercial, mention it's for adults of age and contains nicotine which is a tobacco product etc.

    Does anyone else in the U.S. remember the last time they saw a t.v. commercial for cigs? If I recall correctly, in 1970 congress passed a ban on it. No cigarette commercials, no chewing (smokeless) tobacco commercials.

    So if tobacco products can't be advertised on television and vaping is a 'tobacco' product (as they FDA puts it), how is it vapor products are allowed to be featured in commercials? Or is it a sign that technically they aren't tobacco products. The FDA and FCC seem to be at odds for the moment.
     
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    Sooo... Last post was in August.

    I heard today, coming from my local vape shop, that Trump plans on doing away with these arbitrary regulations.

    Anybody hear anything?
     
  16. celticluvr

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    I'd like to know as well!
     
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    Paratech I forgot VU Donator Gold Contributor

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    Means very little without documentation to back it.
    At least a link to an article would be a start.
    I've found nothing on it.
     
  18. Severs

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    I think when it comes to Trump everyone is assuming that he is going to knock them down due to his anti regulation policies in other areas. That is what I am gathering from a few articles here and there.
     
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    Here we go, my bad on shitty screenshot/crop job. Found this floating around.
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  20. avyrus666

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    And I also found this petition on Americans for Tax Reform aimed at having Trump reexamine the deeming regs and the impact it would have.

    https://www.atr.org/repealfdaregs
     
  21. chuck333

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    Sorry about your luck neighbours. Maybe y'all should move to Canada eh? It looks like we're adopting a more intelligent stand on vaping, hopefully anyway. It's ludicrous that you guys have states where drug use is legal but they're going to kibosh vaping. Go figure. Is this going through for you guys even though the big pumpkin is going to be president?
     
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    I wish I could divulge a bit on this without breaking forum rules...

    BUT legal status of drugs aside, its starting to look like we won't have to worry too much about the FDA as long as vapers continue to make an impact.
     

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