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CrazyChef v2.0

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I've had this stuff for a while, and never really did anything with it yet. Any suggestions?


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That might work for the “Square Coil” idea. If you can find something small and square enough to wrap around and then tap it down flat against the square object you’re wrapping around with a jewelers hammer. I’ve always wondered if that idea would work or since in order to lay wraps down next to each other, having to angle it would mess it all up. But a square coil would just be kinda funny to see...dunno how practical it would be for vaping


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Interesting idea, but I can't see it as being very practical.

I just Claptoned the rectangular with 38g N80, and think I'll parallel that Clapton with square .3x.3 and see how that vapes.
 

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Is it basically the equivalent to a stack of ribbon wire?


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Fused claptons with two square cores (or the rectangle wire now that I'm thinking about it) would look seriously dope. I think. I'd love to see it. Hmm... May have to get some myself.

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do an enigma with it chef :) that’s what I was planning on trying next anyway have the plateau in the middle and run something in there simple round wire or a thin Clapton. Sit these on the outer edges on some 0.5 Ribbon the “ravine” coil hehe :)

Or a square alien build would look good also
 

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As I said before just Clapton wrapping the flat wire is really nice as well for more everyday vaping
 

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Thanks for the ideas. I'm more interested in usable ideas, not coil porn. Although it'd be nice if they are porn worthy, flavor and practicality are my priorities in coils.
 

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The reason I pointed you to brahmasutra_68 is because, in the video linked below, squidoode, who already has proved his worth to me as a coil builder for BIGTIME flavor, explained that the mirror finish does do something useful about the flavor, and, despite I agree there is a lot of porn factor involved with all those pictures on Instagram, on the flip side getting the best flavor and keeping things simple/practical don't usually tend to mix all well together IME anyway so I try to venture into the grey zone in between to see where that leads me. Flat wire and square wire you can skip the whole process of both hammering the wire flat and using the low grit sandpaper so I would guess it isn't actually THAT impractical. :D

 

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As much as I respect Squidoode, I have to disagree about any flavor enhancements polishing coils makes. I've done them many times, and honestly think a plain round wire coil will give a better vape.
 

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At first I thought alien and use it as an outer wrap. It would look pretty cool I think. Then I found out that 32 gauge is .2mm so that would be a large outer wrap. My next thought would be staggered fused Clapton.
 

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These are some polished ones I did last week


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Well a friend of mine swears by full Nichrome80 aliens. They are simple to make, he says, and whatever he kept trying, they still offer the best flavor to him... he doesn't use SS316L because, "that ramp up, eh...". Me, I like how aliens perform, and like it a lot, but in the end I still get more flavor from my Kanthal A1 / Nichrome80 SSFC builds in conjunction with turning the wattages up a notch so what I took away from all this is that everyone is just different and you don't know something until you've tried something. Those mirror finish coils of yours look great, and I'm 150 percent sure at least someone on the planet truly likes their performance and the flavor they produce. That said, I could be wrong, but I don't believe brahmasutra_68 turns those square shaped wraps to get that helix type look for nothing but aesthetics and art.
 

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but I don't believe brahmasutra_68 turns those square shaped wraps to get that helix type look for nothing but aesthetics and art.
Actually, he (and many others) do. Specifically for coil porn.
 

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Actually, he (and many others) do. Specifically for coil porn.
In that case I recommend that you stick to simple round wire parallel builds just like @The Cromwell because then there's no coil porn whatsoever and the practicality is through the roof. :p Seriously though... I think you might have already just answered your own question, as the only other non coil porn truly practical useful builds─other than what's already been mentioned up thread─that I can think of using flat wire are just variations on the tiger coil.
 

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Yup. I'm thinking maybe use the .2x.2 for an alien wrap.
 

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i always wanted to see someone use only square wire for an alien build (decore and everything).
 

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Me too, but I think the stretch would have to be exact, or it wouldn't work.
 

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Maybe twist the 0.9x03 and Clapton it?
Or just clapton it first, and twist it together with something else (e.g. just ribbon wire) after that. The stapled tiger and the tidal wire coil build video tutorials by Twisted Messes on YouTube could give you some inspiration... another example would be OhmBoy Josh's zipper staple tiger coil─albeit all of these are using ribbon wire instead of flat wire. But I think flat wire can also be used between the wraps of any coil type to create a staged heating effect. Endless list of options IMO.
 

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Me too, but I think the stretch would have to be exact, or it wouldn't work.

yeah i dont think the decore would end up being as square edged as i imagine it either. when i picture this build, the alien wraps are sharp 90deg zigzags and they sit flat/square on the square cores. in reality, i feel like the decore would be rounded too much even if it was square wrap on a square core...
 

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yeah i dont think the decore would end up being as square edged as i imagine it either. when i picture this build, the alien wraps are sharp 90deg zigzags and they sit flat/square on the square cores. in reality, i feel like the decore would be rounded too much even if it was square wrap on a square core...

I reckon your right there machine you’d have to be really easy with the tension chef would be easier with a lower gauge wrap probably to maintain the edges

Plus decore is going to be an absolute pig on a square core isn’t it?
 

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How about staging a naked staple in between the wraps of your mirror coil? The naked staple could be using two different types of metal, same size of ribbon wire, in an alternating pattern... the flat wire would help to prevent damaging the coil as you wick it up... so flat wire also enables you to throw in fragile Nichrome80 ribbon wire into the mix of a staged naked staple.
 

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See my thoughts on the staggered fused is that the round wire would have a gap between the wrap wire and the square core causing spaces for juice to fill. Have 3 or 4 of the .2x.2 or the .3x.3 I think it would look cool and be a good vape to
 

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OMG... Yous peeples are all knuts. It's like Starbucks lingo, but with wire. :)

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:crazy::giggle:

I’ll have a double frappa helix with an extra shot double twisted with one lump love not two, mark it up with 40g for the name

Come on Shark get with the lingo!
 

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:crazy::giggle:

I’ll have a double frappa helix with an extra shot double twisted with one lump love not two, mark it up with 40g for the name

Come on Shark get with the lingo!

No way, I'll never go back!
You can have my pre-made (half-caf to you:)) coils when ya pry em from my cold dead fingers! :gaah:
 

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I reckon your right there machine you’d have to be really easy with the tension chef would be easier with a lower gauge wrap probably to maintain the edges

Plus decore is going to be an absolute pig on a square core isn’t it?
the gauge of the wrap is another problem. i have made plain staples (rectangular core, sharp edges) with 38, 40 and 42, and 38 has quite soft edges, 40 is a rounded corner with flat sides, and 42 is thin enough to actually look sharp. im pretty sure they dont make square 42, or even 38 for that matter...but on that note, it prolly wouldnt make a difference if it was square or round passed 40 (can barely see it anyway. tight clapton wraps at 42 just look like tinfoil imo lol).
 

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Oh, sorry. Yeah, I Claptoned the 0.9x0.3 with 38g N80, and paralleled that with the 0.3x0.3 for the coil. Nothing major to report, but it worked. A lot of hot spots for some reason. A staged fused Clapton coil will vape better, though. Even though it may have the same mass as a 9 ply 0.3x0.1 staple coil, it has none of the vape qualities of a staple coil (obviously).

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