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there seems to be a much more direct attack aimed at Whites in this recent spate...look how easily it was for the Democrats to manipulate a moron like EJ into another of his racist meltdowns with this latest shooting...of course people like EJ don't need much of an excuse to express their White hate..I think they have realized they are losing their grip and are going for broke trying to incite a civil war to draw people's attention away from their agenda....there seems to be some sort of urgency some sort of tipping point ...in the past they would have slowly boiled the frog, but recently they are going for broke, getting clumsy ,taking dangerous risks of exposure.....as if they are being pushed to the wall and are cornered.
They know they have lost...They can't impeach Trump......They can't beat Trump in 2020...They know FISA Declss is coming & the Truth is being exposed daily...The only shot they have left is shooting people, stoking Hate & Rage hoping they can wind things up to a fever pitch and send their mindless drones at Trump one after the other hoping one of them gets lucky & takes him out. They will try to assassinate, then pin it on some brainwashed moron.

They've got nothing else left.


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I miss when this thread was friendly banter and joking.

Too much serious

It was until the 2mofokers followed us on here!!!!
Especially the construction worker, that MOFOKER don’t deserve any of my respect, I eat people like him, and I’ll shove it deep!


 

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You’re not sure? Off course you are, you have IN yo dna bitch



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aaahhh...too bad EJ....that's a shame.....let me guess what you wrote....something along the lines of ..."hey Joe me sucky fucky longtime."...sound about right?
 
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It was until the 2mofokers followed us on here!!!!
Especially the construction worker, that MOFOKER don’t deserve any of my respect, I eat people like him, and I’ll shove it deep!


boo hoo bitch....if you can't handle the heat get off my thread.
 

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That’s what you wanna hear and see bitch, these staged incidents had been happening way before that stupid uneducated pos disgusting con man playing president!!! These has nothing to do with that stupid idiot con man sitting potus, well he’s the potus so might as well put him on blast! Why do you still act surprised? These wasn’t the first time yo people murdered yo own! DISGUSTING POS....


Rwanda bitch...ever hear of it..just south of Wakanda.
 

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are there areas the parties do come together on? not poking the fire here just intrigued when it comes to extreme posing views we see day in day out in politics, all I see is his or her fault on everything in the media, politics is very much stuck in what is wrong now or in the past, rather where it’s headed it seems.

...can middle ground be sought for good of the population not just short term vote alignment but strategic generation changes?

if so what would those things be?
 

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are there areas the parties do come together on? not poking the fire here just intrigued when it comes to extreme posing views we see day in day out in politics, all I see is his or her fault on everything in the media, politics is very much stuck in what is wrong now or in the past, rather where it’s headed it seems.

...can middle ground be sought for good of the population not just short term vote alignment but strategic generation changes?

if so what would those things be?
"extreme" is a buzzword used by the propoganda machine and the political establishment which roughly means any view that upsets or threatens those in power., or the institutions of power....it means thought crimes....common ground is "bussiness as usual"....or please don't change the channel on the TV,I know this program sucks, but I'm kind of used to it, I prefer the devil I know...

In reality the parties agree on most things. They agree.
On displacing the native population of America with immigrants from non Western nations. they support massive illegal and legal immigration.
They belive the Banks should run the country, and they believe on making the citizens slaves to the banks.
They believe the natural resources of the country should be plundered and not sustained.
They believe in an unlimited and all pervasive Federal goverment.
They believe in a war economy.
They believe the ruling elite are above the law
They believe they have a right to impose and tax the people into poverty.
They believe that voting is a charming illusion for the stupid and not a form of governing the country. They are not bound by the people's vote, but by who pays them the most.The do not believe the people should have the right to self goverment.
In reality the real problem with America is there is too much common ground between the parties, they both believe in making us all slaves.They just offer two different colors of smoke to blow up your ass. some people want a balanced shade of grey blown up their asses...others want a free republic,
 
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are there areas the parties do come together on? not poking the fire here just intrigued when it comes to extreme posing views we see day in day out in politics, all I see is his or her fault on everything in the media, politics is very much stuck in what is wrong now or in the past, rather where it’s headed it seems.

...can middle ground be sought for good of the population not just short term vote alignment but strategic generation changes?

if so what would those things be?

Areas that parties do come together? I’m gonna assumed you’re asking about the REPUBLICANS and the DEMOCRATS!?

Areas they come together on? “WLCCPP”
WAR,LIES,CORRUPTION, CHAOS,POLITICS, POWER....

The media is a tool for both parties that they use to maintain and keep the viewers hypnotized and The hypnotization got worse with SOCIAL MEDIA AND THE INTERNET!

The media or news cycle is a BUSINESS FIRST INDUSTRY, none of these major news corporations gives a shit about the people, the media loves it when both parties agree or disagree with WLCCPP...

Dude, politics is a DIRTY BLAMING GAME industry you will have to blame the opposition with issues in the past and currently, you can’t blame anyone with issues in 5 years could you? NOPE!

Blame him or her for what he or she did 4 years ago or blame him or here right now! See how trump and the other past presidents always blame the past administrations, not because they care, but to just gain political fucking points! Same goes to all political fucking heads.... for example the last shootings, see how all democrats running for potus blaming trump for all that shit... LOL!
people in this country follows that shit up and they believe it!!! Both parties does it! FACTS!

having a middle ground strategic solutions for the betterment of the future generations? What the fuck are you smoking?! This ain’t your mommy and daddy bullshit middle ground solutions here bro, ok mom I’ll take the trash out tomorrow if I could stay up till midnight?! NAHHHHHHHHH...
Making it better for the future or finding solutions for the next generation is the maybe the last thing they think about or maybe it’s not even on the list on how to solve issues or how to make it better, that’s now how the system works! Remember non of these people in office care about people! FACTS!

You know what god did to satan, he kicked him out of HEAVEN-I don’t see that happening here on earth, people don’t have any choice, we will always vote an evil in office on all levels of politics,the DEVIL runs EARTH, SATAN runs this joint, you can’t be a good politician if you’re not
EVIL.... FACTS!

All I’m saying is you can’t be an effective politician for both parties if you don’t agree with
WAR,LIES,CORRUPTION,CHAOS,POLITICS,
POWER!!!

I didn’t wanna make an intelligent comment because there’s a lot of UNEDUCATED POS on this thread.... IMO!
FACTS....




 

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are there areas the parties do come together on? not poking the fire here just intrigued when it comes to extreme posing views we see day in day out in politics, all I see is his or her fault on everything in the media, politics is very much stuck in what is wrong now or in the past, rather where it’s headed it seems.

...can middle ground be sought for good of the population not just short term vote alignment but strategic generation changes?

if so what would those things be?
See that, told you EJ & Pulse secretly loved each other & were alot closer than it appeared, they just like to bust each others balls!

Pulse & EJ are both correct about the 2 party system. It is currently serves Wall St. & the Fed Central Bank and IMHO the Queen's Privy Council and any illusion that either party serves the American people in their constituency is just that.

Now if you are asking if we the constituency of both parties can find areas where we agree & come together to fix it for future generations I'd say:

AREAS WHERE MOST AMERICANS SHOULD BE ABLE TO AGREE:
  • The Congress is corrupt in general & controlled by special interests to create more problems than they fix.
  • The Congress and by & large the Presidency serves the Bankers, Wall St., the Military Industrial Complex, Corporate Interests, & Foreign Influences, not the American People.
  • For decades, (and I would argue since the Civil War), the Federal Government has existed to harness the wealth & productivity of the American People and funnel it to a select few Elites who have needlessly involved us in an endless sting of global conflicts for economic plunder and population control.
  • The Two Parties - Republican & Democrat are noting but the left and right wings of the same bird designed to separate us into two opposing groups which are constantly at odds with each other while we feed the same beast.
  • The Federal Government is really run by an entrenched corrupt bureaucracy and not our elected officials.
  • The media, touted as the conscience in the court of public opinion, is but a propaganda apparatus designed to keep us docile, entertained and doing the bidding of the State and simultaneously at odds with one another to prevent us from coming together against their rule.
  • The Justice system is touted to serve all equally and always has been corrupted to serves the same Elite in a two tier and now apparently a multi-tier system of inequitable justice.
  • I used to believe most people actually agreed on most of the basics of Patriotism, National Pride, common defense, Liberty, preservation of our rights & shared common goals, but now see how much that has changed over the decades by design through propaganda, mind control & partisan politics run amok.
  • The Intelligence Community is completely out of control and has ushered in an era of the Surveillance State and used Orwell's 1984 as a guidebook rather than the warning it was intended to be.
What's the first thing we should do about it?:
  • If you trust Trump, I believe in everything I have seen him do & implement he has already made great strides in returning us to the path & I believe he has all the right people on both sides of the aisle screaming regularly to trust he is on the proper path. Let him run with it for now.
    • Trump has already proposed to ban all Congressman & Government employees from serving as lobbyists for 5 years.
    • He is goading Liberals into fighting for legislation for all candidates to submit 5 years of Tax returns to get on the ballot & I believe this should extend by mandate to all elected positions & require annual Tax mandatory audits for all office holders extending for two years after they leave office.
    • Ilhan Ohmar's, Rhashita Talib's & Barack Obama's citizenship & campaign frauds when exposed will force Trump to impose mandatory military grade background checks for citizenship & integrity on all Federal Candidates prior to allowing them on the ballot.
    • Trump will institute mandatory photo voter ID with E-Verify.
    • Trump will institute paper ballots or paper ballot receipt stubs capable of manual post election audits and close and greatly enhance hacking & security protocols on all computerized Election machines.
  • While I believe in capitalism, I have always believed that if someone is spending 10s of $Billions or more to get elected to an office that pays $175,000/year, or $475,000/yr, they are doing it because they are gonna steal a shitload more than that along the way & I would rather have our Congress spending their time representing their constituents rather than running fundraisers & taking special interest bribes to raise money for their next election.
    • We need to "Socialize" out Campaign Finance System. Eliminate the entire concept of Campaign Donations, Pacs & SuperPacs after the Party Primaries choose their final candidates:.
      • Government Printing Office to supply all Signage, Pamphlets, Literature to all candidates in equal quantity needed after the Primaries.
      • Military Transports provided to fly all candidates & press pools from city to city on the same butt-buster Galaxy Transport & allow them each equal time to speak at each venue / appearance.
      • All Networks & Radio Stations, in exchange for their FCC licensing with providing studio time, advertising time, interview & appearance time for each candidate in equal time by law.
      • All Venues, supplies, etc to be provided through government procurement, preferably via a tax credit offset or similar.
      • There are 8 nationally registered political parties, not just two. We need to use more of them and provide their candidates equal time, but I'm not sure how I feel about allowing the Communist & Socialist parties to continue.
      • Great fan of the original 13th Amendment.
      • All Candidates for Federal office cannot be of Dual Citizenship, nor be a member of any organizations with affiliations to any foreign power; Swearing allegiance to the Constitution of the Untied States alone, renouncing all others.
  • Institute Term Limits for Congress.
  • Drastically reduce lawsuit protections Currently in for Congress. Repair legislation which currently makes it legal to knowingly lie to Congress in the name of National Security.
  • Institute Law that prohibits Congress from passing any law that does equally apply to them as it does the American People.
  • Institute severe penalties for knowingly lying to the American People about the true meaning of proposed or enacted legislation.
  • Eliminate SES or pay them $1 annually to make current members resign & replace the entire system with additional standard pay grades without all the legal loophole perks & protections inherent in the corrupt SES system.
  • Prohibit members of the intelligence community from seeking office.
  • Repeal Smith-Mundt Modernization Act & prohibit intelligence communities from Propaganda Activities on US Soil except in time of active war.
  • Institute Federal Judge bicameral Judicial Review Panels to review all Federal Judges Judicial decisions periodically for constitutionality & rate of appeal overturn & get rid of the dirty ones playing party politics. Safeguards need to be in place to prevent this from being abused by an incoming administration to remove good Judges & appoint their own.
  • Judicial term limits?
& that's just for starters
 
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thanks for the replies folks seems you all agree on similar points, so is the argument between left and right in here more to do with angles of perspective and busting balls for the purposes of single point issues, or rather is it an argument about how certain things should be applied or rather taken as factual?

I used democrat and republicans as examples for left and right only as these are the parties I see these threads identify with the most, however my statement could be applied across the spectrum of government parties everywhere.

now I see a collective view and agreement points among you l, how would it be best to get these areas communicated more effectively to the masses out there? And to articulate and discuss these points without blowing up? Or is that just part of the fun and actually there’s isnt an interest in doing this?, if media is very much in control of the propaganda machine where exists a neutral zone people can tap into for such a thing?

Is social media such a place? but then even there on this forum we have unbalanced mud pit of one political thread and not the other ...and business who provide those services align with a particular stance ...so where is a place that can be used for effective communication to discuss ideas without being party aligned rather this is the will of the people and who delivers it doesn’t matter.
 

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Many of these initially listed 8/5 as well but were changed after the shooting.
 
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thanks for the replies folks seems you all agree on similar points, so is the argument between left and right in here more to do with angles of perspective and busting balls for the purposes of single point issues, or rather is it an argument about how certain things should be applied or rather taken as factual?

I used democrat and republicans as examples for left and right only as these are the parties I see these threads identify with the most, however my statement could be applied across the spectrum of government parties everywhere.

now I see a collective view and agreement points among you l, how would it be best to get these areas communicated more effectively to the masses out there? And to articulate and discuss these points without blowing up? Or is that just part of the fun and actually there’s isnt an interest in doing this?, if media is very much in control of the propaganda machine where exists a neutral zone people can tap into for such a thing?

Is social media such a place? but then even there on this forum we have unbalanced mud pit of one political thread and not the other ...and business who provide those services align with a particular stance ...so where is a place that can be used for effective communication to discuss ideas without being party aligned rather this is the will of the people and who delivers it doesn’t matter.
Right now we are biding our time & educating ourselves & others in the recesses of the internet & trying not to get banned on the larger providers as we appeal to who we can so we still have accounts to reach people in 2020. This thread used to be littered with leftists deranged with hatred of the bad Orangeman. They have fallen off posting now because they have realized they were wrong, even if they haven't admitted it to themselves yet. Even though they don't post, they still read it because they know they aren't finding this info where they normally look & it is important, even if they don't like it.

Trump signaled with his revolutionary war airport speech error on the 4th of July that they took over the airport bases of operations & stopped the spraying of the chemtrail chemicals that made people more susceptible to the mind control, but it takes time to detox & people can become more agitated as the effects wear off & they begin to realize the programming does not jibe with reality...When they realize everything they believed was a lie, it is a difficult adjustment. Emotional instability, agitation & confrontational behavior are to be expected & it is not a good time to reach hearts & minds when emotions are high.

We will come out of the recesses when POTUS beats back the near total Globalist control & censorship of Big Tech at the behest of the Atlantic Council (EU*NATO) & China & run right up the Mainstream center on all venues spurring the very conversations you suggest right after Trump exposes the Left's staging of these mass shootings to spread terror, control their base, spawn racial hatred, divide a nation, influence public opinion & Trump begins prosecuting those who participated. Both Democrats & Republicans will be implicated in the plot as the true scope is revealed.

Just how Trump will do that remains unclear, but you will know it when you see it.

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thanks for the replies folks seems you all agree on similar points, so is the argument between left and right in here more to do with angles of perspective and busting balls for the purposes of single point issues, or rather is it an argument about how certain things should be applied or rather taken as factual?

I used democrat and republicans as examples for left and right only as these are the parties I see these threads identify with the most, however my statement could be applied across the spectrum of government parties everywhere.

now I see a collective view and agreement points among you l, how would it be best to get these areas communicated more effectively to the masses out there? And to articulate and discuss these points without blowing up? Or is that just part of the fun and actually there’s isnt an interest in doing this?, if media is very much in control of the propaganda machine where exists a neutral zone people can tap into for such a thing?

Is social media such a place? but then even there on this forum we have unbalanced mud pit of one political thread and not the other ...and business who provide those services align with a particular stance ...so where is a place that can be used for effective communication to discuss ideas without being party aligned rather this is the will of the people and who delivers it doesn’t matter.
really...we just had the DNC conspire to overthrow a legally elected goverment, our last president and his Sec. of State weaponized the Intelligence community to rig an election and when that failed they and the heads of the Intelligence community they themselves appointed created a bullshit myth, lied to the people, got the propoganda mills to collude in their conspiracy and tried to push their lies down the throats of the people...and wound up getting caught and exposed.............now after all that you can still vote for the DNC, there is no amount of discussion, no further information, no communication that is going to appeal to you...you've made up your mind that ..reality , the truth,the law, the voting booths, the people's right to self determination, the Constitution, and the very Existence of the United States are all irrelevant and expendable to your agenda..You have made the Social contract of America null and void...to date..the rank and file Democrat is not holding the heads of their party responsible for an attempt to overthrow the goverment of the US, and the legitamizing of violence as a political tool.....I don't think they are interested in any further discussions ........or elections. The only point of interest to me at present ,is how much higher a degree of violence are Democrats, and their Globalist masters planning to use in order to destroy the Republic, and attempt to control the masses, and how will the people who wish to remain Americans, or dissenters, who are speaking out against the New World Order ,are going to deal with that violence.
 
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Read this...and then tell me why..why is the DNC ...and their controled Media outlets....focused on the shooting in El Paso. These are the shooting and murder statistics for Chicago, a city goverment filled with Black liberal Democrats with some of the most stringent gun control laws in America.

August to Date
Shot & Killed: 9
Shot & Wounded: 63
Total Shot: 72
Total Homicides: 9

Chicago Crime 2019Shortlink
Week in Progress (8/4 – 8/10)
Shot & Killed: 5
Shot & Wounded: 38
Total Shot: 43
Total Homicides: 5

Chicago Crime 2019Shortlink
Year to Date
Shot & Killed: 279
Shot & Wounded: 1372
Total Shot: 1651
Total Homicides: 306

Chicago Crime 2019
 

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really...we just had the DNC conspire to overthrow a legally elected goverment, our last president and his Sec. of State weaponized the Intelligence community to rig an election and when that failed they and the heads of the Intelligence community they themselves appointed created a bullshit myth, lied to the people, got the propoganda mills to collude in their conspiracy and tried to push their lies down the throats of the people...and wound up getting caught and exposed.............now after all that you can still vote for the DNC, there is no amount of discussion, no further information, no communication that is going to appeal to you...you've made up your mind that ..reality , the truth,the law, the voting booths, the people's right to self determination, the Constitution, and the very Existence of the United States are all irrelevant and expendable to your agenda..You have made the Social contract of America null and void...to date..the rank and file Democrat is not holding the heads of their party responsible for an attempt to overthrow the goverment of the US, and the legitamizing of violence as a political tool.....I don't think they are interested in any further discussions ........or elections. The only point of interest to me at present ,is how much higher a degree of violence are Democrats, and their Globalist masters planning to use in order to destroy the Republic, and attempt to control the masses, and how will the people who wish to remain Americans, or dissenters, who are speaking out against the New World Order ,are going to deal with that violence.
We are all ready to lock & load if needs be, but if Trump exposes DNC involvement in the shooting as I suspect he will, it hopefully will not be necessary.

Far more likely globalists will fall back & focus on remaining in control of their own respective countries as their positions progressively weaken, reorganize to survive & live to fight another day. Threaten them too much & they will give the go ahead to their immigrant armies to attack & cause utter chaos, but if they do they lose those assets forever as they are defeated & they lose everything.

Don't see it coming to that, but who knows?
 

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We are all ready to lock & load if needs be, but if Trump exposes DNC involvement in the shooting as I suspect he will, it hopefully will not be necessary.

Far more likely globalists will fall back & focus on remaining in control of their own respective countries as their positions progressively weaken, reorganize to survive & live to fight another day. Threaten them too much & they will give the go ahead to their immigrant armies to attack & cause utter chaos, but if they do they lose those assets forever as they are defeated & they lose everything.

Don't see it coming to that, but who knows?
Well the Mueller probe went down like the Hindenberg a flaming ball of shit...so the whole Russian conspiracy narritive is over with and the impeachment circle jerk can't get a hard on...so now we must rebrand the narritive...The DNC is back to Trump is a White Supremacist Nazi.....it's like a bad sit-com.
 

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Read this...and then tell me why..why is the DNC ...and their controled Media outlets....focused on the shooting in El Paso. These are the shooting and murder statistics for Chicago, a city goverment filled with Black liberal Democrats with some of the most stringent gun control laws in America.

August to Date
Shot & Killed: 9
Shot & Wounded: 63
Total Shot: 72
Total Homicides: 9

Chicago Crime 2019Shortlink
Week in Progress (8/4 – 8/10)
Shot & Killed: 5
Shot & Wounded: 38
Total Shot: 43
Total Homicides: 5

Chicago Crime 2019Shortlink
Year to Date
Shot & Killed: 279
Shot & Wounded: 1372
Total Shot: 1651
Total Homicides: 306

Chicago Crime 2019
We don't talk about those, because they're in the reach of liberal (Democrat) controlled cities. The best we can do is to nuke Chicago off the face of the planet. Problem solved.

Maybe not that extreme with the nukes, but seriously...

Illinois as a whole has some of the strictest gun laws in the country, yet ranks in the top 5 for murders. Most of those - gun related. Look at all of your Democrat controlled areas - the trend repeats itself. If it's not crime, it homelessness. If it's not homelessness, its drugs / drug addiction. Of course, the left will blame guns and gun violence on those things too, but they yet see the error of their ways.

Humanity in it's entirety is destroying itself. America is what we see the most, because of its charged environment at this moment.

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really...we just had the DNC conspire to overthrow a legally elected goverment, our last president and his Sec. of State weaponized the Intelligence community to rig an election and when that failed they and the heads of the Intelligence community they themselves appointed created a bullshit myth, lied to the people, got the propoganda mills to collude in their conspiracy and tried to push their lies down the throats of the people...and wound up getting caught and exposed.............now after all that you can still vote for the DNC, there is no amount of discussion, no further information, no communication that is going to appeal to you...you've made up your mind that ..reality , the truth,the law, the voting booths, the people's right to self determination, the Constitution, and the very Existence of the United States are all irrelevant and expendable to your agenda..You have made the Social contract of America null and void...to date..the rank and file Democrat is not holding the heads of their party responsible for an attempt to overthrow the goverment of the US, and the legitamizing of violence as a political tool.....I don't think they are interested in any further discussions ........or elections. The only point of interest to me at present ,is how much higher a degree of violence are Democrats, and their Globalist masters planning to use in order to destroy the Republic, and attempt to control the masses, and how will the people who wish to remain Americans, or dissenters, who are speaking out against the New World Order ,are going to deal with that violence.
May have been mistaken, not that they could pull it off, but they're running the threats to control their base.

It Begins: “Death Camps to All Trump Supporters” Fliers Posted in New York City
 

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May have been mistaken, not that they could pull it off, but they're running the threats to control their base.

It Begins: “Death Camps to All Trump Supporters” Fliers Posted in New York City
I don't find that disturbing..a bunch of bored decadent brats of the burgoise scrawling childish drivel....The one that caught my eye was Corey Booker the junior Senator from NJ... demanding Trump rallies get banned....making political dissent against the DNC a thought crime.
 

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I don't find that disturbing..a bunch of bored decadent brats of the burgoise scrawling childish drivel....The one that caught my eye was Corey Booker the junior Senator from NJ... demanding Trump rallies get banned....making political dissent against the DNC a thought crime.
Corey's got a lot to hide. Really hoping once he & Menendez are exposed Jersey goes Red.
 

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are there areas the parties do come together on? not poking the fire here just intrigued when it comes to extreme posing views we see day in day out in politics, all I see is his or her fault on everything in the media, politics is very much stuck in what is wrong now or in the past, rather where it’s headed it seems.

...can middle ground be sought for good of the population not just short term vote alignment but strategic generation changes?

if so what would those things be?
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thanks for the replies folks seems you all agree on similar points, so is the argument between left and right in here more to do with angles of perspective and busting balls for the purposes of single point issues, or rather is it an argument about how certain things should be applied or rather taken as factual?

I used democrat and republicans as examples for left and right only as these are the parties I see these threads identify with the most, however my statement could be applied across the spectrum of government parties everywhere.

now I see a collective view and agreement points among you l, how would it be best to get these areas communicated more effectively to the masses out there? And to articulate and discuss these points without blowing up? Or is that just part of the fun and actually there’s isnt an interest in doing this?, if media is very much in control of the propaganda machine where exists a neutral zone people can tap into for such a thing?

Is social media such a place? but then even there on this forum we have unbalanced mud pit of one political thread and not the other ...and business who provide those services align with a particular stance ...so where is a place that can be used for effective communication to discuss ideas without being party aligned rather this is the will of the people and who delivers it doesn’t matter.
As I am sure you are well aware, you could make a list of very valid points. One point will be picked from the list, and attacked. We are dealing with trolls here. They find enjoyment in chaos, just like the president.
 

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Just in the last nine months I have had occasion to write to you about horrific acts of violence in Pittsburgh, Thousand Oaks, New Zealand, Sri Lanka, and San Diego. There have been many more opportunities to write. Just this year there have been 252 mass shootings in the United States, killing 281 people and wounding 1,025 others. In 32 cases three or more people were killed in a single episode. There is no other country anywhere in the world not at war that regularly suffers in this way.









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America is at war. This is the second civil war, in case you haven't noticed. The differences between the first and second civil wars is that most people don't yet take up arms against their neighbors, and those that do... die or go to jail that day. However, there is no shortage of maniacs to take up arms against their neighbors. Kill a few thousand of them, and more will take their places... kind of like the Islamic terrorists. You can't stop them all.
 

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really...we just had the DNC conspire to overthrow a legally elected goverment, our last president and his Sec. of State weaponized the Intelligence community to rig an election and when that failed they and the heads of the Intelligence community they themselves appointed created a bullshit myth, lied to the people, got the propoganda mills to collude in their conspiracy and tried to push their lies down the throats of the people...and wound up getting caught and exposed.............now after all that you can still vote for the DNC, there is no amount of discussion, no further information, no communication that is going to appeal to you...you've made up your mind that ..reality , the truth,the law, the voting booths, the people's right to self determination, the Constitution, and the very Existence of the United States are all irrelevant and expendable to your agenda..You have made the Social contract of America null and void...to date..the rank and file Democrat is not holding the heads of their party responsible for an attempt to overthrow the goverment of the US, and the legitamizing of violence as a political tool.....I don't think they are interested in any further discussions ........or elections. The only point of interest to me at present ,is how much higher a degree of violence are Democrats, and their Globalist masters planning to use in order to destroy the Republic, and attempt to control the masses, and how will the people who wish to remain Americans, or dissenters, who are speaking out against the New World Order ,are going to deal with that violence.

social media and the internet has allowed large groups of people to organise quickly and that’s a threat ...sow in chaos to disarm them ...if you maintain in-fighting nothing comes to pass and the status quo is maintained, governments have been doing this for the longest time whoever is in power ...divide and conquer has been about before the Internet it just takes a new form.

fighting each other achieves nothing and disarms people, everything is fake news and conspiracy ....we end up not knowing what is up or down... that’s half the battle, losing perspective of the playing field.

There was a line from the recent Chernobyl series that stuck with me recently when he’s explaining about the core exploding ...”every time there’s a lie, that debt has to be paid eventually”
 

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America is at war. This is the second civil war, in case you haven't noticed. The differences between the first and second civil wars is that most people don't yet take up arms against their neighbors, and those that do... die or go to jail that day. However, there is no shortage of maniacs to take up arms against their neighbors. Kill a few thousand of them, and more will take their places... kind of like the Islamic terrorists. You can't stop them all.


Just in the last nine months I have had occasion to write to you about horrific acts of violence in Pittsburgh, Thousand Oaks, New Zealand, Sri Lanka, and San Diego. There have been many more opportunities to write. Just this year there have been 252 mass shootings in the United States, killing 281 people and wounding 1,025 others. In 32 cases three or more people were killed in a single episode. There is no other country anywhere in the world not at war that regularly suffers in this way.

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Explain to me how this pile of sneakers got into the street. Why is there no blood on any of them? When people are shot, their shoes do not suddenly fly off their feet unless they are wearing flip flops. Paramedics do not strip the shoes off of dead people at the scene of a crime to apply toe tags. Police do not strip the shoes off of dead people and discard evidence in the street. They load them into ambulances even if they are dead, try to revive them at the hospital, then pronounce them dead there. They NEVER leave to bodies overnight to "preserve the crime scene". They take pictures & video for that.

Reporters do however pull up to crime scenes with a trunk full of shoes and throw them in the street to get the money shot or the people who execute these false shootings to further the agenda of the disarmament of the American people place them there in order to get the money shot and "sign their work" like a calling card to pull at the heartstrings of Americans to upset them to the point where they don't think clearly & do very stupid things.

America isn't in the midst of a second civil war, not even close. It is suffering through a Propaganda Effort by the Intelligence Community, the Media, and the DNC in collusion with Foreign Powers (UK, EU & China) to destabilize the country and get a bunch of manipulated spoiled little brat morons who didn't get their way in the last election to think they are in a Civil War and put on their Ninja Pajamas & a bandana and go out into the street, block traffic, turn over garbage cans & light them on fire and "Bash the Fash" until real Americans lose their patience with their bullshit and show them what a real Civil War is, and I can assure you it would be over very quickly, and there wouldn't be piles of shoes in the street when it was over, but puddles of real blood and real bodies stacked by the side of the road like cordwood.

Get your heads out of your asses, pull your panties out of your crotch and take a moment to think about the Propaganda Manipulations being employed upon you and ask yourselves "Is this Real?" and you will be much better off. Then ask yourselves WHO BENEFITS?

When you eventually arrive at the conclusion it is your own political party's leadership that benefits from perpetrating these horrific acts, start asking yourself: Is Donald Trump really so bad?.
 
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social media and the internet has allowed large groups of people to organise quickly and that’s a threat ...sow in chaos to disarm them ...if you maintain in-fighting nothing comes to pass and the status quo is maintained, governments have been doing this for the longest time whoever is in power ...divide and conquer has been about before the Internet it just takes a new form.

fighting each other achieves nothing and disarms people, everything is fake news and conspiracy ....we end up not knowing what is up or down... that’s half the battle, losing perspective of the playing field.

There was a line from the recent Chernobyl series that stuck with me recently when he’s explaining about the core exploding ...”every time there’s a lie, that debt has to be paid eventually”

Oh yeah...you tell me how you are going to find common ground with people who don't think legal elections are valid if they don't win...how do you find common ground with people who believe is censorship and silencing any dissenting voices under the bullshit banner of "Hate speech"...how do you find common ground with people who when they lose elections they simply form groups who don masks to cover their faces and beat people in the streets...how do you find common ground with people who in an effort to increase suffering and maintain political power simply flood the country with illegal aliens and nullify the votes of the citizens...how do you find common ground with people who would strip you of your civil liberties of speech,assembly,search and seziure,gun ownership.....do you really think the Bolsheviks were interested in finding common ground when they butchered millions...do you think the Khmer rouge were interested in finding common ground when they sowed the killing fields in Cambodia...The Whites of South Africa thought they would find common ground...how did that work out for them...they stand on the threshold of genocide....their people are being raped and murdered daily and now everything they own is being stolen from them...you know what line really stuck with me..from the real world...."All that evil needs to flourish, is for good men to do nothing"....
 

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As I am sure you are well aware, you could make a list of very valid points. One point will be picked from the list, and attacked. We are dealing with trolls here. They find enjoyment in chaos, just like the president.
this from a moron who learned history from reading bubble gum wrappers.
 

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Oh yeah...you tell me how you are going to find common ground with people who don't think legal elections are valid if they don't win...how do you find common ground with people who believe is censorship and silencing any dissenting voices under the bullshit banner of "Hate speech"...how do you find common ground with people who when they lose elections they simply form groups who don masks to cover their faces and beat people in the streets...how do you find common ground with people who in an effort to increase suffering and maintain political power simply flood the country with illegal aliens and nullify the votes of the citizens...how do you find common ground with people who would strip you of your civil liberties of speech,assembly,search and seziure,gun ownership.....do you really think the Bolsheviks were interested in finding common ground when they butchered millions...do you think the Khmer rouge were interested in finding common ground when they sowed the killing fields in Cambodia...The Whites of South Africa thought they would find common ground...how did that work out for them...they stand on the threshold of genocide....their people are being raped and murdered daily and now everything they own is being stolen from them...you know what line really stuck with me..from the real world...."All that evil needs to flourish, is for good men to do nothing"....

I’d start by finding things you do share common ground on which you named up the top...

Or move one of the two :) You make it sound like it’s a hopeless situation putting it like that.
 

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I’d start by finding things you do share common ground on which you named up the top...

Or move one of the two :)
in other words you can't.. you have no real answer to the question...I'm not really interested in how you would start I'm interested in how you would accomplish it.
 
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