How Private are Private Messages?

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  1. TygerTyger

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    In light of discussions talking about privacy and monitoring of private messages at other forums, we wanted to let you know our stance on this issue. At Vaping Underground, your freedom and privacy are important to us, and we want you to feel free here to express yourselves or connect with each other without fear of heavy-handed moderation or fears of your privacy being compromised.

    Can staff read private messages? The simple answer is no. The way that our forum is configured, moderators and admins CANNOT read private messages, end of story. While a plug-in exists to allow this functionality, we have chosen NOT to use it.

    However, in the interests of transparency, we're going to peel back the curtain and tell you that technically, there is a way for a tiny few senior admins to access private messages. It's not built in, and it's not simple. It involves having access to and meticulously combing through an entire database of information. In short, it would be like hacking our own forum, and only those intimately involved in the workings could even get that far. Then, to check YOUR message would be a little bit like seeking a needle in a *row* of haystacks. Rest assured, no one has the time or inclination to read your private messages, nor do we believe they should be read. They're called private for a reason.

    There is only one other instance in which a private message could be viewed, and that's if it is so threatening or offensive that the receiver chooses to report it. At that point, it becomes a report visible only to senior adminstration in order that appropriate action can be taken. To sum up, the only way someone who isn't in a private conversation will see a message is if someone IN that conversation reports it. (And for the record, if you do receive a threatening or highly inappropriate message, please do report it so that we can assist you.)

    In recap, we want you to feel comfortable and safe connecting with others here, and have configured our forum and practices to support that value. Private messages ARE private, and we're not here to monitor how you choose to interact behind the scenes. So..... speak freely!

    Tyger~
    on behalf of the Vaping Underground Administrators and Moderators
     
  2. VaporJoe

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    ... In short - Vaporjoe doesn't wanna see your dick pics!
     
  3. TygerTyger

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    Always so eloquent and to the point, @VaporJoes LOL!!!
     
  4. Hermit

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    SELECT * FROM [vu.PrivateMessages] WHERE [Message] CONTAINS 'Dick'
    GO

    There you go Joe, something like that :D
     
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    the only other way someone can read the pm is if someone on the inner circle, invites someone outside in.
     
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  7. xanadu0324

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    My 365/dick a day dick pics are going UNSEEN?!
     
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    fraid so @xanadu0324
    all that hard work for nothing!

    [​IMG]
     
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  9. UncleRJ

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    Not worried about it myself.

    I figure since no one pays attention to the drivel I post publicly here, no one is going to take the time to read my private messages:rolleyes:
     
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  10. kelli

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    i hang on your every word, uncle booger.
     
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    I think you are talking about the check off box called "Allow anyone in the conversation to invite others" So that side is user controllable by who starts the PM rolling. Allow or not ...you decide when you start.

    The box after that I don't quite get.
    "Lock conversation (no responses will be allowed)"​
    Is that to shout at someone and not let them reply, or is that to lock a conversation off after it starts and winds down?
    Either way, I am not sure why I would use it.
     
  12. Spike64

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    Not even a bag of dicks pics? lol...:D
     
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    Thats different. :D
     
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    Do keep in mind that your PM's to other members may jot stay private.
    I have seen in other forums where someone was being and asshole bully ajd the receiving party quickly copy pasted in the thread that they had conversation in that went to PM.
    The asshole was reprimanded by a mod with a month long vacation from the forum.

    So just saying, if you are going to be a dick and send a PM... don't assume it will stay private. And don't be a dick anyway ;)
     
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    yes, digging thru the db.. all that is needed is notepad++ and the find function ;)
    not hard.. but I highly doubt that Joe of any staff member is interested in reading any bits of mail..
    yeah yeah.. how do I know? too many years of repairing databases with mergers etc..
    do I trust the staff?? yeps..

    i gota hand it to them all :)

    always write as if someone may read it, cuz one never knows..

    good example @fq06 :D
     
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    If you have your doubts (which I don't) and you want to be sure that you are having a private conversation.................

    If you trust the other member with one of your E-Mail accounts just exchange that info here and then hook up outside of the forum.

    Thus removing all doubts that I am personally taking the time to read all of the nasty things you say about me behind my back.

    Please do so and remove such temptations from me as I truly do not have time to read them ALL:D
     
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    Write in code, with invisible ink
     
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    Or binary 1010010010100101010001001010001010101001010010100100101010010100101010101010010000000101010010101010101 ;)
     
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  20. Warhawk-AVG

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    Word

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  22. Celtic Fog

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    There are 10 types of people in this world, those that understand binary and those that don't.....
     
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    And you fall into which of the two?
     
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    hate to be a smarty ass Foggy but binary uses base 2

    geeko-sapiens.jpg
     
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    Im type 0....lol. Understanding ms dos was hard enough in high school hahahaha.
     
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    You're on the internet. Always assume since this forum is US owned, that the NSA has already read everything you've posted, and apparently finds your drivel boring and non-threatening.
     
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    they might find it interesting..

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  29. InMyImage

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    Funny, partly because binary is base two, and partly because my high school programming teacher quickly figured out that I knew more about programming than he did and had me teach the class and him at the same time. :)
     
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    just so long as we dont start talking about pebcac and one dee ten tee issues we are all good
     
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    Not true. I'm very exciting, and they sit outside my house with cameras and take photos every time I go get the mail.
     
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    You can always invite them in with a list of a few choice words :p

    Oh high agent Black, how was your day? :D
     
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    How come I can't edit no more?

    Oh I hear helicopters...I'll be right back....
     
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    I noticed that too, but it just seems to be on this thread, although honestly I wish that the ability to edit a post after about 30 minutes should be locked down. That is the way it works on other forums I frequent and it prevents people from going back and changing what they said to make people look bad or themselves better...
     
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    that was how it was, but some wanted a time they could correct themselves so the boss man decided a small window after that they lock down.

    that only applies to non-staff
     
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    Um... how long is "short time"? I can still edit the first post I ever made back on Sep 9th...

     
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    the window must have been changed or the boss decided to do away with it.
     
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    "The Boss" sounds so...menacing.
     
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    If you're concened about members editing their threads long after they've posted and appearing to say something else then when you replied, remember to click their reply link to include their comments in your post. Then you have the original record of what they actually said.

    Having said that, I think it's a good thing members can edit their own words whenever they want for an array of reasons. That's the freedom of speech.
     
  40. Celtic Fog

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    I happen to agree fully with Mr. Kid.
     
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    Everyone on this site rocks, I love this place and all of you!
     
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    nope @VaporJoes is the biggest kid you will ever know. he loves his toys and likes to pick fights :D
     
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    Better to pick fights then pick his nose
     
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    ugh NOW you tell me!!
     
  45. UncleRJ

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    Is this a good time to say..........................

    BOOGER ?
     
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    It's ALWAYS a good time to say booger. And Boobies. Preferably not in the same sentence or context, though.
     
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    FORCES JOE TO LOOK AT MY DICK PIC!!!
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    that is one sneering dick there.
     
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    How dare you post Dick pix like that in a public forum where anyone can see them!!
     
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    Good info, thanks for that
     

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