I'm confused about CBD, legal or not?

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  1. barker

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    Welcome to VU :wave:

    Hi Barker - from how I understand it, CBD is legal on the Federal level, but many states are attempting to restrict or criminalize CBD

    Here is a link to VU rules which you might want to review before posting in this section :) Rules of the forum and here: CBD Notice
     
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    My appologies. I probably shouldn't be posting about CBD either since it's banned here. Thanks for the heads up.
     
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    CBD isn't banned, the other stuff is - can be kinda confusing

    Post away, we are glad to have you on VU
     
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    Oh, I meant in my state, CBD is banned, so if it's going to be unavailable for us it's pointless for me to be posting in a CBD forum

    It will be interesting to see how the state plans to enforce it. Fines apparently start in October so shops are selling like crazy before then.
     
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    Guess I shouldn't have liked that post, because CBD really does help a lot of people and it's seriously absurd, the hysteria around it
     
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    Im under the impression that they want to restrict then heavily regulate. I'm sure hemp farmers in the state will have to jump through hoops before they can distribute it. I just don't understand with the other substance becoming legal why now all of the sudden CBD under the microscope. Get ready for high taxes on these products.
     
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    I know, it is retarded. When you-know-what was legalized for recreational sales here, the state came in and raided several legal retail stores and confiscated their CBD because they were licensed to sell you-know-what but not CBD

    Google "Alaska Raids CBD" to read all about that dumbest of dumb ass regulatory ridiculousness of all time

    IT WAS STUPIDER THAN FUCK


    On all regular vape stuff too, just waiting for it
     
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    Cbd made from hemp and under like .03 thc is 50 state legal. I use it daily.
     
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    There is a huge difference between 50 state legal and illegal but just not enforcing it.
     
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    Cbd is not a scheduled drug. So long as it is made from hemp it is legal.
     
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    I'm confused about CBD, legal or not?

    Yes.
     
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    I know it's easy to find 10 million links online that says it's true.
    But at this moment in time CBD is federally illegal just like MMJ but they just aren't enforcing it.

    There are bills in the works now to straighten it out.

    The cops are NOT going to kick down your door for having CBD.

    But if you were say, in Texas and the cops showed up as you were making a few kilos of CBD isolate you could end up in prison.
    It doesn't matter if it's from hemp or not.

    These are from this month:

    https://www.nbcdfw.com/investigatio...-We-Are-Not-Going-Down-Quietly-505215871.html

    https://worldteanews.com/market-trends-data-and-insights/legal-issues-of-cbd-tea-made-from-hemp

    When they start using weasel words like "friendliest states" and "Gray Area" that is means for concern for legality.

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    If you notice everyone quotes the farm bill which makes hemp legal in almost all states.
    But the farm bill makes "hemp" legal.

    The federal government didn't pass the farm bill so people could vape CBD.

    I'm hoping that the federal government will just give up entirely on the whole plant soon since it is obviously the will of the people to have each separate state decide for themselves.

    If the people didn't want this then there would be no CBD, MMJ, or recreational in any states.

    it's a little tricky talking about this without breaking the rules but I think I made my way around them pretty good. :D
     
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    I am only going on what i have read. And it is widely available in illinois.
     
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    imho any law that is not enforced should be removed.
    Selective enforcement is just wrong.
    You either enforce a law or remove it.
     
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    I never said it wasn't widely available.
    I know it is.
    I have a feeling that before 2020 that it will be straightened out and be legalized federally.
    Also the states need to make their laws more clear.

    Legitimizing CBD is the best way to assure that the purest and most trustworthy products are on the market.

    Down here in Florida there are boneheads standing on the side of the road spinning signs that say "CBD, Kratom, Vapes!!!" plus the huge signs plastered to telephone poles and strip mall entrances saying the same thing everywhere.

    As soon as I saw them I knew it would eventually fuck things up for everybody.

    You've got these rich busybodies that have nothing better to do but try to control other people and it's best just to not get on their radar.
     
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    I spent 20 days in jail one time for spitting in the sidewalk. But it's the law. What a stupid fucking law. Here it's illegal to bring your horse in the courthouse. Yes someone did that too. :giggle:
     
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    imho we need a constitutional amendment that says if a criminal law has not been enforced/prosecuted in 20 years it automatically expires and must be individually voted in again by congress. And I say reviewed and individually voted on. Not a blanket bill that says re institute all expiring laws.
    That would allow the law to be modified to better suit current reality.
     
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    They may have finally repealed the law in Lexington KY that says it is illegal to carry an ice cream cone in your pocket on main street.
     
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    There are also conflicting laws.
    A few years ago (not checked lately) there was a law in KY that when one came to a railroad crossing you would get out shoot a gun in the air before proceeding. There is also a law forbidding shooting a gun from or across a roadway.

    Then the law about women under a certain age in a bathing suit walking un-escorted beside a roadway would carry a club....
     
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    In the UK CBD oils are legal, for instance. Although, it's not well-spread. But it's not apparent how Brexit will affect the CBD industry (if it happens of course). EDITED BY MODERATOR to read about current and further legal issues related to it.
     
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    Ohio has made it illegal to have or purchase CBd products from hemp or otherwise. The market started to ramp up, big pharma freaked out, and a helpful item was suddenly illegal. I dont wanna make it political in here but this is far from coincidence. People with chronic pain are searching for help and they cant get it from doctors anymore or anything else now. So for now hubby and I will keep destroying our livers and stomachs with otc pain meds that barely help

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    Pmed
     
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    It always depends on the legalization of hemp in the state. Somewhere CBD is partially legalized. Somewhere even hemp is not forbidden. As far as I know, hemp becomes legalized in a lot of countries, as it is still a very good way to overcome migraine or stress condition for a great number of people. Everyone can choose for themselves will it be CBD oil or simply medical mxxxxxxxx. I've been growing a few bushes for myself and my friends since mxxxxxxxx was legalized in our state. That is easy nowadays, I buy seeds in the online store https://en.konoplisemena.com. I believe that it is also much more useful and pleasant to use a clean product grown at home. By the way, you can make CBD oil by yourself too. If you need advice then search in internet.

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    Maybe it's legal in NY, I heard some expo about CBD in NY
     
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    yes, CBD is legal and it saves many people
     
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    It seems like in the UK they are trying to make it illegal. Currently, I think you would be fine but maybe stock up because soon I can see all the stores that are making an honest living being closed down due to stupid regulations
     
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    The Police officers who Vape down here on the Alabama Gulf Coast have told us as long as the CBD passes a chemical field test, you're perfectly fine (that's if they even test it).

    We sell Hemp-isolate based so we are good.
     
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    All CBD products are available here (Washington)in the recreational XXX shops and in the drugstone. As best as I can tell it is legal with the Feds as long as the THC content is below .3%

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    I think that it doesn't matter in what form you use CBD. –°onversely, CBD gummies cause less suspicion in my opinion. At least you can order online and no one will ask what particular gummies are there in the package that you will receive. Anybody can check over there premiumjane.com that they look like simple sweets and nothing more. But of course, it's much better if in your state CBD is totally legalized. In such a case you can buy it at some specialized market as I think.
     
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    Well a little update, went back to buy some more and shop pulled all of their stock. Checked another shop and same answer, pulled from their shelves. So I guess in NY anyhow it's going away. That sucks, stuff helped me with my anxiety.
     
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    CBD that is derived from hemp, (if it has any THC), is under .2%, and that makes it hemp CBD, which is federally legal.

    If it is from that other plant, or over .2% THC, it is illegal federally.

    I am not sure if New York is going like Colorado and Washington or not.
     

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