Is the Istick 50 enough for dripping?

[Rhyno636]

I typically run .3 ohm coils in my mech mod and on average, I believe I'm getting just shy of 50 watts to the coils. It seems like the Istick 50 will be a slight increase in power, plus the small form factor and battery benefits. Does anyone disagree with that? I'm preordering one today unless someone can intelligently dissuade me. What are your thoughts?

 

[Hermit]

Unknown!

With a VV/VW device there's also the current and voltage limits to consider, which normally mean it can't supply 50W across the full range of supported ohms. At high ohms, the voltage limit comes into play. At low ohms, the current limit.

Since 0.3 ohms is close to its lower limit, I'd be surprised if it could do 50W at that point. But we don't know what its current limit is yet.

Also, a variable device will always be less efficient than a good mech.

 

[VapedCrusader]

Seems like a good buy to me! You can always spend a little more and get a Sigelei 100 watt too.. they are pretty cheap now

 

[anendeloflorien]

I can't speak for the iStick but I can run a 0.3 ohm build on my Smok Xpro BT50, which has the same max wattage. It drains that single battery FAST though!

 

[Rhyno636]

It claims to have a 10v limit, but does not state what the amp limit is.

 

[Hermit]

Yep, according to Steam Engine, the BT50's current limit allows it to run max power down to it's resistance limit (0.2 ohms).

Then drop down the Clouper T5 to see one that doesn't.

I'm not sure if the numbers on there are right for the istick (20W) - I thought the current limit was 4A, not 4.5A, giving it a max power range of only 1.2 to 1.5 ohms. The higher voltage limit on the 30W and 50W will raise the upper end of that quite a bit. But it wouldn't surprise me if they played safe and had a current limit of around 10A for the 50W, giving max power down to about 0.5 ohms.

 

[dantefire]

I can't speak for the iStick but I can run a 0.3 ohm build on my Smok Xpro BT50, which has the same max wattage. It drains that single battery FAST though!

What's your personal opinion on the Smok? I was going to pull the trigger on one but that same day the istick 50w news broke. Now I'm up in the air...

Currently using the istick 20w and it's been fine for my needs, but, you know... I want more

D.

 

[Rhyno636]

Isn't 50 watts with a .7 build the same as 50 watts with a .2 build, except the .7 build has more surface area?

 

[rdsok]

Isn't 50 watts with a .7 build the same as 50 watts with a .2 build, except the .7 build has more surface area?

Using the same gauge wire... yes it is. Which should mean that there could be more flavor/vapor produced as well.

A lot of folks still have what I refer to as the "mech mod" mindset where lower ohms is the only thing they think it requires for a good vape. The facts are that it was a requirement for a mech mod but regulated devices have many more options available now. Right now on my Kanger Subtank... I get almost the same flavor and vapor out of both the 0.5 and the 1.2 ohm coils... that can't happen on a mech but a regulated you can still vape both at the same wattage. A higher ohm coil ( using the same gauge wire still ) will take a little longer to get up to temp which some do consider a down side. Some of the regulated mods allow a "boost" for a bit so it can address that temp lag a little by using higher power for a moment before going back down to the vape wattage you'd prefer.

 

[BoomStick]

Isn't 50 watts with a .7 build the same as 50 watts with a .2 build, except the .7 build has more surface area?

Keeping the wattage the same, but changing the amount of material the wattage is applied to changes the results.
Sounds like you would be bumping up against the power limit of a 50w device. Forget that. Get a sig 100 plus. Plenty of power and dual batts for longer run time.

 

[BoomStick]

Using the same gauge wire... yes it is.

No it isn't. Make two coils with whatever gauge wire. Make one with 5 wraps and the other with 10 wraps. Apply the same 10 watts to both. The 5 wrap coil will reach a higher temperature than the 10 wrap coil.

 

[rdsok]

No it isn't. Make two coils with whatever gauge wire. Make one with 5 wraps and the other with 10 wraps. Apply the same 10 watts to both. The 5 wrap coil will reach a higher temperature than the 10 wrap coil.

I mentioned it taking longer to get to temp... which is similar enough but you don't point that out so your twisting my words

 

[BoomStick]

It doesn't reach the same temp. It's not the same.

 

[Rhyno636]

I would love a sigelei plus, but I can't charge it. Removing batteries to charge is one of the inconveniences I wish to get away from. Anyone who says dual batteries last them over a day is nuts. I go to work at 6am and if I were to go out that same night, I need freshies.

 

[Mazam]

I would love a sigelei plus, but I can't charge it. Removing batteries to charge is one of the inconveniences I wish to get away from. Anyone who says dual batteries last them over a day is nuts. I go to work at 6am and if I were to go out that same night, I need freshies.

On my days off i can sit around the house a good 17 hours on one set on Samsung batteries with the Sigelei Plus. That's dripping with a .5 coil, and guessing that i do more constant vaping then you could/would at work.

In my own experiences, good quality batteries make a big difference. If you steer clear of buying your batteries off ebay, or from vendors who just so happen to always have the most desirable ones on sale for a "why is it so much cheaper then everybody else?" price, it's doable.

That said, i am currently planning on buying the istick 50w for an out and about setup after seeing it's more pocket friendly size factor

 

[BoomStick]

The sig 100+ has magnets on the battery door so having a battery box on hand with two charged batts ready to go and swapping them if necessary would be a breeze.
In case you haven't seen one, here's a battery box pic.

 

[anendeloflorien]

What's your personal opinion on the Smok? I was going to pull the trigger on one but that same day the istick 50w news broke. Now I'm up in the air...

Currently using the istick 20w and it's been fine for my needs, but, you know... I want more

D.

I really like it personally, it's a solid mod the 510 connection is well made (floating center pin never needs any adjusting) and it fits my subtank perfectly. I also really like the app, it's got a lot of features I'll never use and I don't use it all the time but it's kind of fun to link it up and show my friends a real time display of what is going on in my vape. That being said, it looks like they're including some pretty major upgrades in the m65 plus for a decent amount less money. Only major difference I see is it does not use replaceable batteries.

 

[Lefty]

Yep, according to Steam Engine, the BT50's current limit allows it to run max power down to it's resistance limit (0.2 ohms).

Then drop down the Clouper T5 to see one that doesn't.

I'm not sure if the numbers on there are right for the istick (20W) - I thought the current limit was 4A, not 4.5A, giving it a max power range of only 1.2 to 1.5 ohms. The higher voltage limit on the 30W and 50W will raise the upper end of that quite a bit. But it wouldn't surprise me if they played safe and had a current limit of around 10A for the 50W, giving max power down to about 0.5 ohms.

I think they probably are correct for the 20 watter. It doesn't allow you to dial in a wattage it can't produce with an atty attached and you can dial up 20 watts with anything from 1 ohm to 1.5 ohms. I don't have any 1 ohm builds handy to double check but I do remember being able to. Not that I cared to use it that way.
Edit: I did dig up a 1.1 ohm build and could set it and fire it at 20 watts

 

[Hermit]

I think they probably are correct for the 20 watter. It doesn't allow you to dial in a wattage it can't produce with an atty attached and you can dial up 20 watts with anything from 1 ohm to 1.5 ohms. I don't have any 1 ohm builds handy to double check but I do remember being able to. Not that I cared to use it that way.
Edit: I did dig up a 1.1 ohm build and could set it and fire it at 20 watts

Thanks, Lefty!

But, damn, that means a couple of my graphs are wrong in that sliver < 1.2 ohms

 

[dantefire]

I really like it personally, it's a solid mod the 510 connection is well made (floating center pin never needs any adjusting) and it fits my subtank perfectly. I also really like the app, it's got a lot of features I'll never use and I don't use it all the time but it's kind of fun to link it up and show my friends a real time display of what is going on in my vape. That being said, it looks like they're including some pretty major upgrades in the m65 plus for a decent amount less money. Only major difference I see is it does not use replaceable batteries.

Thanks brother.

 

[ej1024]

Get a SIGELEI 150...
PROBLEM ANSWERED!!
Sent from my
LUMIA 1520

 

[snow blind]

Get a SIGELEI 150...
PROBLEM ANSWERED!!
Sent from my
LUMIA 1520

The 100+ watt Sigelei boxes are very nice but not direct competitors to the iStick or even Cloupor mini. They're much larger and are more an "at home" device. Anybody bringing a 150 out to the bar?! lol

 

[Mazam]

The 100+ watt Sigelei boxes are very nice but not direct competitors to the iStick or even Cloupor mini. They're much larger and are more an "at home" device. Anybody bringing a 150 out to the bar?! lol

Well, i do find that it always makes for a great conversation piece. As in people asking me "OMG, WTF is that thing? It's HUGE!" lol

As long as i'm using something like an Orchid v2, the istick people tend to think is neat because it's so small

 

[Hermit]

Anybody bringing a 150 out to the bar?! lol

Well, only ... *wiggles little finger*

j/k

 

[BoomStick]

The 100+ watt Sigelei boxes are very nice but not direct competitors to the iStick or even Cloupor mini. They're much larger and are more an "at home" device. Anybody bringing a 150 out to the bar?! lol

You're right. A dual battery, 100 watt device is not a direct competitor to 20, 30 and 50 watt single battery devices. Anybody trying to take full advantage of the capabilities of a dual coil dripper with an underpowered device?! lol

 

[ej1024]

The 100+ watt Sigelei boxes are very nice but not direct competitors to the iStick or even Cloupor mini. They're much larger and are more an "at home" device. Anybody bringing a 150 out to the bar?! lol

Well first of all the 150 is not a big device,
2nd of all I dont vape in public
3rd if you want to drip might as well get a high powered device to cover all bases..
I bought the 20,30 watts and the 50 when it comes out, I will only use them when I drive, at work or when im taking a dump...IMO

 

[Rommel]

Depends on what you're building. For 0.1 ohm 24 gauge parallel coils no, 50w is not enough. For 0.45 24 gauge micro setups its plenty good.

 

[pianoman1050]

I grabbed an istick 50w and a low end authentic rda from my local shop. I installed the coils that came with the rda that came out to between .2 and .3 ohm.
At 50 w ....Its is only 3.1 volts , but if you can get your mind past the numbers on the screen , it is an enjoyable vape.
Yes it takes an extra second to warm up , but I just fire it 1second before I vape it.
I intend to build something in the range of .4 to .7 ish at a later time to see if that matches up any better.
The point is ..... I just don't see the difference between under- powering a .2 coil, or over- powering a .7 coil. They basically achieve similar temp.
(Except maybe coil surface area)

 

[Jah]

I grabbed an istick 50w and a low end authentic rda from my local shop. I installed the coils that came with the rda that came out to between .2 and .3 ohm.
At 50 w ....Its is only 3.1 volts , but if you can get your mind past the numbers on the screen , it is an enjoyable vape.
Yes it takes an extra second to warm up , but I just fire it 1second before I vape it.
I intend to build something in the range of .4 to .7 ish at a later time to see if that matches up any better.
The point is ..... I just don't see the difference between under- powering a .2 coil, or over- powering a .7 coil. They basically achieve similar temp.
(Except maybe coil surface area)

If your rda is capable of running in single coil mode, I would say you would probably benefit from taking one of the coils out. Would let you hit it with more voltage and dramatically increase vape quality. At least IMO, but Im a single coil guy for <50 watts

 

[Pauly Walnuts]

For my rda's, 50w is rock bottom power, as I hover between 50-80w. Now for a tank, Ill go down to 30.

The 100+ watt Sigelei boxes are very nice but not direct competitors to the iStick or even Cloupor mini. They're much larger and are more an "at home" device. Anybody bringing a 150 out to the bar?! lol

Yes, my sig 150 is in my pocket everywhere. Its really not that big.

 

[ej1024]

The 100+ watt Sigelei boxes are very nice but not direct competitors to the iStick or even Cloupor mini. They're much larger and are more an "at home" device. Anybody bringing a 150 out to the bar?! lol

Are you kidding me!!! You call that BIG?? First off i don't vape at the bar unless I'm in a CASINO!!!
CASINOS are the best place to blow clouds but at the same time you have to be respectful of others!!
I owned both sig/cloupor this 2 devices RUNS my RTA'S long drive or work.

 

[Nobody2]

I would love a sigelei plus, but I can't charge it. Removing batteries to charge is one of the inconveniences I wish to get away from. Anyone who says dual batteries last them over a day is nuts. I go to work at 6am and if I were to go out that same night, I need freshies.

I grabbed an istick 50w and a low end authentic rda from my local shop. I installed the coils that came with the rda that came out to between .2 and .3 ohm.
At 50 w ....Its is only 3.1 volts , but if you can get your mind past the numbers on the screen , it is an enjoyable vape.
Yes it takes an extra second to warm up , but I just fire it 1second before I vape it.
I intend to build something in the range of .4 to .7 ish at a later time to see if that matches up any better.
The point is ..... I just don't see the difference between under- powering a .2 coil, or over- powering a .7 coil. They basically achieve similar temp.
(Except maybe coil surface area)

On my iStick 50 I'm using a Magma rda with dual coils that are 28 gauge at .8 ohms and have been running at 20 watts and it is an awesome vape with great flavor and big clouds. I could easily bump up the wattage much higher but don't need to.

As far as battery life goes...I've been running this setup for 3 days and the battery status hasn't even dropped to half and I vape pretty constant through the day. I'm not a chain vaper but I'm no lightweight either.

 

[Mazam]

Are you kidding me!!! You call that BIG?? First off i don't vape at the bar unless I'm in a CASINO!!!
CASINOS are the best place to blow clouds but at the same time you have to be respectful of others!!
I owned both sig/cloupor this 2 devices RUNS my RTA'S long drive or work.

Compared to what he referenced...yeah it's pretty dang big.

Mine doesn't leave my desk at home either in favor of more pocket friendly device. Then again i never have an issue making it through a work shift or night out at the bar on one 18650 or my istick 20w. Maybe if i forget to swap to a fresh battery or charge the istick before leaving the house, but that rarely has ever happened.

 

[Pauly Walnuts]

I Started watching a vid about the SIG 150. He started with his few complaints, one of which was "it doesn't fit in the pocket of my skinny jeans". I turned it off.

 

[Hermit]

Damn hipsters...

 

[schencks]

I typically run .3 ohm coils in my mech mod and on average, I believe I'm getting just shy of 50 watts to the coils. It seems like the Istick 50 will be a slight increase in power, plus the small form factor and battery benefits. Does anyone disagree with that? I'm preordering one today unless someone can intelligently dissuade me. What are your thoughts?

I have the 50 watt it drips very well i have a 0.4 build and haven't hade any issues.

 

[Zamazam]

I typically run .3 ohm coils in my mech mod and on average, I believe I'm getting just shy of 50 watts to the coils. It seems like the Istick 50 will be a slight increase in power, plus the small form factor and battery benefits. Does anyone disagree with that? I'm preordering one today unless someone can intelligently dissuade me. What are your thoughts?

I use mine for Dripping. It works well.

 

[Slurp812]

Thick wire seems make more watts possible. More wraps of thick wire can get the ohms up a bit for regulated mods. It more metal to heat up increases ramp up time. So we cant over do it. IHMO.

 

[CDZVaper]

My Tobh was reading .3 on the istick and it made my istick 50w buzz, so I havent tried it since with any other builds.
I dont trust it...