Is vaping safe with kids around?

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  1. raymo2u

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    Now that specific point would fall under Common Courtesy, the Kids not yours and neither is the space, its different if its your place and kids. "Do onto others" applies to Common Courtesy but thats not what I gathered from earlier posts...I read your kids, not someone else's kids
     
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    Yup and they can kiss my ass, cause I can smoke, and do a lot of other shitty things that are legal to do around my kids that I never would. People are just fucking ignorant and I don't let it bother me and walk on eggshells with all these fucking idiots were surrounded by.

    Everyone is just a bunch of scared little twats these days to do anything around anyone.
     
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    Someone else's.. even your kid's personal space falls under "someone else's" logic man.. logic.

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    I'm not scared to do anything. But I personally hate the smell of cigarettes. And I hate when a person decides to stand or sit right next to me and light theirs up. Just move it over a few feet man and be "courteous."

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    Ive never understood why people fear so much about how others think of them. Whats in it for you if they think of you as a great person or a person thats not superficial? I'd much rather be myself and to others who dont like it they dont have to hang out with me, I wouldnt want them around to pick or bitch about everything to begin with since thats obviously the way they are. Im not a fan of drama or telling people how to live, I feel if someone told me how to live then they also should listen to me on how they act and give info, but its not up to me and people just like to voice how they feel. Its good and all but living with enough women (no offense women) Ive had enough of "what I think you should do"....I think I should do that what I feel is right at the time Im thinking it, and thats as far as I like to think about something.
     
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    We arent smoking, its not toxic and doesnt smell like shit but I understand what you mean. I also hate it when someone walks through vapor with a smoke in their hand and act like they have a asthma attack because they were exposed to the vapor they walked into. Yet the Cigarette has no further effects and somehow seems to clear them after taking a drag from it...

    BTW, until my kids move out or they are under someone elses roof they're space is mine. Ive fought for it, paid out my ass for it and deal with shit from others for it everyday but they (Others, not the kids) dont contribute anything but what they think. I vape in my room with the window open or on the porch, I dont vape in the main areas of the house, but thats the way I feel about space.
     
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    Because thinking about others is being courteous? Lol. I don't know where yall's heads are at. You said "do unto others" right? So if you're a douche to everyone don't care about being courteous to anyone.. do you expect to get some kind of special treatment? It's not like I'm laying my coats down in a puddle for everyone. But just try and work enough energy to use that thing you have up there called a brain and think "Hmmm.. what if this person may not like all that in their face? I'd better not be an asshole and do it anyway." I don't fear of what others think of me, I'm just genuinely a nice person. Which I must make up the entire population of genuinely nice people because you all seem rude.

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    There is no thinking or logic anymore. It's just all selfish feelings filled up in every person. But when someone acts selfish in spite of you there's no doubt in my mind you'll throw a hissy

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    Well that is the perfect example of how to do it.

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    Im not a douche to others, I just dont see many people per day unless Im at work and I cant vape while Im there anyways. Where have you lived? Im guessing somewhere Rural or in the Country, if you've lived in any City then you'd understand why people arent as caring for others as you are. People are out for themselves and careless for who they get screwed or what they've done to anyone, its the way of the world now. You may see the world with lollipops and cany but I dont have a curtain over how people act and behave. If respect is given then so be it but until you earn it I dont just hand it out, too many people take advantage of you when that happens.
     
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    I'll also make a point.. that my ex girlfriend for one.. didn't like my vaping. Preferred it to cigarettes, but to her I spent too much time with it and she's probably right. But anyway.. I vape mostly sweet dessert or custard flavors. Which to her sense of smell was unpleasant and made her feel sick. Also my mother who smoke for many years has developed a problem with her sense of smell. So in the off chance I use a tobacco or sometimes chocolate flavor it smells very horrible to her. Something that smells dirty according to her. So it's not correct IN MY OPINION to openly vape around others because you don't know the factors involved.

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    I've lived in San Antonio my whole life :) Huge city and I spend a lot of time downtown. I just can't help, but have compassion. Might be a bad thing, but it's not going away it's who I am.

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    I applaud you for keeping your jubilant and cheerful spirit, I have not.
     
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    We're all wired differently I guess.

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    The world would be very dull and grey if we were all the same, thats what keeps things interesting and changing
     
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    To be honest, you look like you are not even 21.

    You WILL be more jaded about people, in 20 years. Trust me. It happens to all of us.
     
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    I'm 22. And I doubt it. Check back with me 20 years.

    Edit: I'll also take that as a compliment haha.

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    How would anyone know if vaping around children is safe? There haven't been any long term studies concerning second hand 'vapor' and children. I know I have a friend who has asthma who I don't vape around, as it irritates her asthma. Perhaps the lungs of children are less sensitive...
    Personally, I find it selfish and trashy, however. I expect to see it at the Walmarts...
     
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    I doubted it too......

    When I was your age, you couldn't tell me shit, because I (we all) knew it all.
    20 years later, I wished I had listened closer.
     
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    This. This exactly.



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    I shop at walmart, I guess that explains it all...who doesnt though?
     
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    I've been through all that & lived a life most adults haven't. I'm more mature than you think. I'm much younger than my siblings yet people always think I'm the oldest. You can't stop me from caring about people. Not fearing what they think.. but having empathy.

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    Uh huh. And I thought I had a tough go in life too, before I was 20. Thought I was a lot more "grown up" than others my age too.

    Like you, I lacked life experience. I lacked seeing a lot of what I have seen in the last 20 years.

    You'll see, eventually.
     
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    You see, as I said in another thread this is what happens when you raise kids with 6th place trophies and participation medals. We have turned into a nation of pussies that is constantly concerned about what others think. I don't give two shits about what someone thinks about what I do in MY house. Pay my mortgage then you can tell me what to do.

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    Stems back to Woman's right to vote and then slowly the erosion of civil liberties followed...Mom clubs and other people who have no interest in what they bitch about but vote against it because they are misinformed or uneducated about said subject.

    Nothing against women but history makes me believe what I see...
     
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    When I was 17 my dad used to tell me why don't you leave now while you still know everything. Lol

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    Life experience? Dude I have my own place, health insurance, got a freaking career dude that takes me shows all over the US. Already looking to have my own shop and training center soon. I don't flip burgers for minimum wage lol. Keep talking like you know me, but the truth is you don't. I got years of experience on most kids my age. I'm not trying to boast, but I get a little hot when someone thinks they can tell me who I am when they have no idea what to go off other than a tiny thumbnail picture on a vape forum. I got myself here all on my own hard work & I show myself as professional at all times. You say you used to think you know it all? I think you're still at that point in your life. Doesn't seem like you've moved much at all.

    And I'll say I took myself from being pretty much homeless to having all of what I have now from my hard work. So I know the dirtiest and ugliest of people in this world. Don't assume things because you look bad.
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    For me it was my mom, asking why I don't leave when I was 16.

    So I did....
     
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    First, you can't really say you are ALWAYS professional. You've demonstrated that in this thread.

    Secondly, who gives a shit if you think you have a career? Your 22. You haven't been in the workforce to have a career yet. Your own place, health insurance? Big whoopty. It's your responsibility as an ADULT to have that. You want a "participate" ribbon for it? You don't get awards or a slap on the back for doing what you are SUPPOSED to be doing.
     
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    No I'm just defending myself because you think I'm some kid because I'm 22 when you have no idea what I really do in life. And I'm giving the point that most kids at my age are unemployed and mooching off their mom's. I have everything on my own and looking to own a business that in my line of work is very well known already. I get paid very well and I've learned and earned certificates in my name that are going to take me far regardless of what you think of me. Go back to your assumptions and being miserable with your life man. I'm out.

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    LOL.
     
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    I'm obviously doing better than you all were at my age. Lata

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    I was thrown out for things I dont care to mention here, especially with all the goodie-two-shoes around...but I guess it makes me a big boy for getting help and then crafting and sharpening my tech skills and I happened to have been pushed in to the dept Im in. I also have three kids and I pay my bills as I am supposed to. I do not consider myself professional in any manner except when I am working as thats the only time I have to. I feel I am no better then anyone else and I know there are people that are better then me. Im not going to try and make it seem Im anymore of a person for what I have.

    I dont care if Im judged and dont care for any judging to begin with, If this was the case then I would consider myself a Knife-To the point, no nonsense, went from grimy to usable and I have a clean blade for now, do not expect more of me then I offer.
     
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    We do not know if Vaping is safe at all that being the premise the conclusion is unknown
     
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    Deucesjack I'm not judging I'm going off of what he said in previous posts.

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    Sorry for the butt hurt, it's just a feeling it will go away.
     
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    Not butt hurt. Just would prefer if nobody talked to me like I'm a kid. I'm young, but I'm not a kid. That's a huge difference.

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    This thread is lolz
     
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    I had everything on MY own too. It was expected of people then, just as now. Life isn't some hand out, unless you have parents that will make it that way for you.
    You want to own your own business. Good! What will you do when it fails? No one starts their first business, and it is a wild success without a failure.

    You make the assumption that I am some bitter old dude. I am far from bitter. I have lived longer, gained more experience, and went through things you have not YET.

    It's great to have a positive outlook on life, but stop acting like you are some unique snowflake.
     
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    Soooo did we decide if vaping is safe around kids or are we gonna try to determine how mature we all are? And who has been through what.
     
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    No one knows dude Is it safe around you? :)
     
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    Who fuckin knows.
     
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    Its all just personal opinions right now until something scientific is done and shows anything in either direction. Do what you think is right, not what others tell you.
     
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    No one here has done a study concerning the long term effects of second hand 'vapor' on children...
     
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    There is a lot of scientific study out there. Also, people need to understand how vapour works compared to smoke. From my research the potential long term issues are associated with flavourings, we are already fully aware what nicotine, PG and VG do to the body.
     
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    Nicotine has never been the issue for secondary smoke, it is the tars and toxins, sticky particles that get everywhere.
     
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    Can you post a long term study evaluating the affects of e cig vapor and children?
     
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    Lol, snowflake. That's your new name. No longer are you isubohm, from this moment forth I dubb thee SNOWFLAKE. lmfao.

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    Hahaha wow.... Ummmmm
    I don't have kids that I'm aware of; so, I follow basic smoking etiquette when it comes to vaping around children.


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